Oodweyne. That's a lot of speculations, but you know Somali politics (if you we call it politics) hardly go as planned or imagined. There are simply too many variables and too many unknowns at the play here. I think it's fair to say the only thing will remain constant is Somalis being at each other's throats, bidding for foreign powers, and Solers having the same sort of conversation, the only variance might be the players changing, but the issues remain and solutions look afar.

Oodweyne, That has been established since Addis:) Classified. Nothing so far...

MADAXWEYNE XASAN: “Kismaayo waxaan u imid Nabadeynta Jubbooyinka iyo Dhameystirka Heshiiskii la Gaaray”(SAWIRRO) Khamiis, Oktoobar 31, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha dowladda Somalia, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud oo caawa ku sugan magaalada Kismaayo ayaa ku sheegay hadal uu jeediyay in socdaalka uu ku tagay Kismaayo ay qayb ka yihiin nabadeynta Jubbooyinka iyo sidi loo dhameystiri lahaa heshiiskii lagu gaaray Addis Ababa. Madaxweynaha iyo hoggaamiyaha maamulka Jubba ayaa waxay garoonka Kismaayo salaan-sharaf kaga qaateen cutubyo ka tirsan ciidamada dowladda iyo kuwa maamulka Jubba, iyadoo madaxweynaha iyo wafdigiisa la geeyay xarunta madaxtooyada Kismaayo. “Arrimaha aan u nimid waxaa ka mid ah nabadeynta Jubbooyinka iyo sidii loo dhameystiri lahaa heshiisyadii la gaaray. Qodobbadii lagu heshiiyay intoodii badan waa la isku af-gartay kuwa harsanna waa la dhameystiri doonnaa,” ayuu yiri madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh. Sidoo kale, madaxweynaha ayaa shacabka Jubbooyinka ka dalbaday inay ka qaybqaataan hannaanka nabadeynta ee dalka ka socda, isla markaana ay iska illoobay waxyaabihii horay u dhacay ee laga soo gudbay. Click

I am not from the North, so really matters not. What is important we should not look at everything through lenses.

spartacus;983697 wrote: what goes around comes around!..SL already gone far far away and won't come back who ever is waiting just be patient and sorry! But you pests are around, now scram, off to your Somaliland.

I rest my case.

And you reached your conclusions from the decades you were living in Xamar, Garowe, Dhuusomareeb, Beledweyne, Bosaso, Jowhar, and Kismayo? Or from your family kitchen table?

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo si weyn loogu soo dhoweeyay magaalada Kismaayo Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo wafdi uu hogaaminayo ayaa si weyn loogu soo dhoweeyay garoonka diyaaradaha magaalada Kismaayo, kadib diyaarad gaar ah oo ka qaaday garoonka diyaaradaha Muqdisho. Wafdiga Madaxweynaha ayaa waxaa ka mid ahaa Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha iyo Amniga Qaranka, Xildhibaano iyo saraakiil, iyadoo Madaxweynaha markii uu ka degay garoonka Kismaayo uu salaan sharaf ka qaatay cutubyo ka tirsan ciidamada dowladda. Madaxweynaha ayaa garoonka diyaaradaha Kismaayo loogu tumay astaanta qaranka oo ay garaaceen ciidamada bambeyda, sidoo kale waxaa uu gacan qaaday mas'uuliyiintii soo dhoweeyay oo uu ku jiro Hogaamiyaha Maamulka KMG ah ee Jubba Axmed Madoobe. Afhayeenka Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Eng. C/raxmaan Yariisow ayaa sheegay in safarka Madaxweynaha uu yahay mid taariikhi ah oo uu ku tago Kismaayo tan iyo bur burkii dowladii Siyaad Barre oo Madaxweyne Soomaaliyeed uu booqdo ay ugu dambeysay 22-sano ka hor. Madaxweynaha iyo wafdigiisa ayaa loo gelbiyay Xarunta Madaxtooyada Kismaayo, halkaasoo uu caawa ku hoyanayo wada hadalo kula qaadanayo, waxaana socdaalkiisa uu qeyb ka yahay dhaqan gelinta heshiiskii Addis Ababa. Ammaanka magaalada Kismaayo ayaa si aad ah loo adkeeyay, iyadoo shalay magaalada ay gaareen ciidamada gaarka ah ee Madaxweynaha iyo ciidamada AMISOM ee ka socda Uganda, kuwaasoo amnigiisa sii xaqiijinayay. Wixii warar ee ku soo kordha kala soco wararkeena dambe Somali news leader www.jowhar.com jowharcom@hotmail.com golfyare@gmail.com

DEGDEG: Madaxweyne Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh oogaaray Kismaayo Kismaayo[RBC Radio]Madaxweynaha dowladda federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud ayaa goor dhow gaaray magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobolka Jubbada hoose. Socdalka madaxweynaha ayaa ahaa mid si weyn la isgu diyarshey,waxana garoonka diyaaradda ee Kismaayo uga hortagey masuuliyinta ugu sareysa maamulka Jubba,waxana sidoo kale ku sugna garoonka xubno ka tirsan dowladda faderaalka iyo xildhibaano kuwaaso ka qeyb galey soo dhaweynta madaxweynaha. Boqolaal ka tirsan shacabka magaaladda Kismaayo oo watey calanka jamhuuriyada Soomalaiya iyo midka maamulka Jubba ayaa soo dhabtay garoonka diyaaradda iyagoona si weyn halka ugu soo dhaweeyey madaxweynaha dowladda faderaalka. Masuuliyiin ka tirsan dowladda ayaa Madaxweynaha ku wehliya safarkiisa, iyadoo Kismaayo shalay ilaa maanta ay gaareen saraakiil iyo masuuliyiin kale oo ka tirsan dowladda federaalka ah, kuwaasoo u gogol xaarayay booqashada Madaxweynaha. Waxaa la sheegay in inta uu madaxweynaha Kismaayo uu ku sugan yahay inuu la kulmi doona hoggaamiyaasha maamulka KMG ah ee Jubba Sheekh Axmed Madoobe, si ay usii xoojiyaan heshiiskii bishii August ee sanadkan ay labada dhinac ku gaareen magaalada Addis ababa ee xarunta dalka Itoobiya. Ammaanka magaalada ayaa si aad ah loo adkeeyay kahor imaanshaha madaxweynaha. Safarka uu madaxweynaha uu ku tagay Kismaayo waxaa uu noqonaya mid kiisi ugu horeyey tan iyo markii loo dortay hoggaanka dalka. Gor dhow naga filo faah faahinta iyo Sawiradda soo dhaweynta _______ Iimaan Maxamed Jaamac RBC Radio

It was conceived by bunch of Qawdhans high on grass venting about the South and grieving over its beauty.

I think we know how the idea of Somaliland came about...

Did they photo shop the President in-between Recep and Abdullahi.

But are Somalis happy? IC and UN don't live in Somalia and they can't bring peace to it.

Mahiigaan;983561 wrote: There is nothing Somalis can be proud of. The meagre budgets of Somalia and Somaliland are mainly from the International donors. Tax from one airpor and one port cannot sustain a country's economy. We are in the lowest rung of every development index, like child mortality, healthcare, education, stability, access to water etc etc. LOL, you can't reason my village is better than your village crowd.

Oodweyne. In your hasty to declare Puntland nonentity and by extension the larger family, you have ignored some glaring facts that are worth considering. Firstly, there is no elite (there is actually no real elite in anywhere in Somali lands contrary to what we convince ourselves) in Mogadishu with the political acumen to master a strategy that could reduce Puntland or matter any other regional authority including Somaliland to periphery in terms of influence. If there is such elite, please enlighten us. Secondly, you are overplaying how much the international community can do ( Ironically you discount their influence when it comes to Somaliland). There are obstacles least of which is the pledge for new deal. It is one thing to promise something, it is another thing to deliver on those promises as history shows. The cost of financing the SFGis very high, the last thing IC wants to do is corner regions of Somalia that has semblance of normalcy. This is specially true considering the SFG have no legs to stand and it has not the capacity to build institutions including viable defense force. Furthermore, AMISOM has became corrupt to the core as shown by sackings of Ugandan officers by Museveni. The IC is continuing with dual-track despite their pronounced support for Mogadishu. Today, there was a delegation from EU and the World Bank in Garowe discussing the New Deal. Thirdly, when it comes to Jubba issue, people forget one crucial aspect. While Madoobe agreed to come under SFG, it is worthy noting that he was not chosen by them. I don't see the SFG installing their man.They had to make peace with the idea of not choosing who runs Kismayo and by the extension the lucrative seaport. And there is the Kenyan factor and in particular KDF which realized they could make money in Kismayo. The agreement in Addis had unintended consequences, it has galvanized reer Bay/Bakool who are now in the process of setting up their own state. The Speaker has essentially endorsed the initiative by the Malaaqis during his last visit there. It will be very unwise and ineffective for SFG to antagonize another community. Fourthly, "Pashtuns" much like D-Block are not unit that could be united under a common goal. The idea of State from Mudug to the Shabelle is rather appealing, but it's highly unlikely. The residents of Hiiraan who suffered under Osman Atto and reer Mudug will not accept union with Galgaduud and Mudug. I will be very surprised if the internal divisions within the "Pashtuns" and for that D-block can be overcome. SFG agreed to the recent Nairobi meeting, but in the process they managed to piss off ASWH, the only force that ever defeated AS in battle. Your predictions will come true the day the SFG can financially supports itself (an actual tax base) and have viable forces along other institutions, till such day, we are merely entertaining desires and passing them as possible outcomes. I forget to add that the President's alleged connection to Islamists and his debt to those who bought him the presidency.

Aamiin.

Hawd. Right, musmaasuq and q@ldaans are on the other hand ignorant of each other's existance.

If this was Berbera, it would have been welcomed as progress, not a takeover.

It turns out my parents kept my birth certificate all these years and I am happy to report I was not born on January 1st. And someone tried to sell one of our homes in Xamar.

Oodweyne. How much of your argument is what you desire vs. what actually is?

Hehe

LOL@Cadale Opinions inflicted by desires passed as facts succinctly named a reality.

lol@MMA, he is not alone in his ignorance.

Seriously admin, that's name of ACTUAL town and I haven't said anything offensive.

Hawd just discovered the word ********.