Siyad Bare: A Dictator or a Dear Leader?

[MoonLight1]

40 years ago today a revolution was born in Somalia led by Gen M.S.Barre

Lets talk about the pros and cons of the man.

 

Pros

 

- Implmented the writing of the somali language.

- Built many factories, e.g dharka, baastada, hilibka, kalunka, sokorta, caanaha, taraqa, sigaarka, the list goes on and on and on.

- Built four out of the five main high roads in somalia, e.g the 1974 Muqdisho to Garowe. the bosaso to garowe high road in 1990, Kismayo to Xamar high road.

 

- Built many ports and airports such as the kismayo one, the merka, the bosaso, and so many.

- Built the strongest army in the sub sahar africa.

- Built two universities.

- Built many primary and secondry schools.

 

 

Cons.

- Excuted 10 Ulamaa on daylight at Iskool bulusiyo for just opposing his law of Xeerka qoyska.

- Excuted or exiled his opponants, such as Gabeyre, Ceynanshe, Cirro.

- Nepotism, a low ranking officer from Gedo was more poweful than an educated minister.

-bombarded populated cities such as Hargeysa & Burco.

- Coused the defeat of Xooga Dalka by not having clear strategy.

- Corruption, Qabyaalad, Kali talis.

 

 

[Gheelle.T]

Muran iyo af lagaado um baa ka imanaaya. There are dozen other threads like these in the archives, you should had better dig them before opening another gonna be tiresome tirade thread.

[Ducaysane]

Nepotism, a low ranking officer from Gedo was more poweful than an educated minister.

Can you name one officer from Gedo that was more powerful then let say..Abdiqasim or Matukade (cheif of the police, who persuaded sayid barre to kill the 10 ulumas)

[Allamagan]

OK, in short, if we say 10 out of 10 then mathematically speaking x^2-5+x is equal 8 hence 8/10 more pros than cons.

 

RIP yaa Maxamed! dad kama tegin dal baad ka tagtay!

[Paragon]

Yes, a dear leader. I can't be bothered to do maths.

[Chocolate and Honey]

At this point, he is a "saint" because we have seen more ruthless leaders and wax mataroyaal is nacay. I would've loved to have experienced his goverment. From what my mom tells me, it had its good and bad.

[MoonLight1]

Muran iyo af lagaado um baa ka imanaaya. There are dozen other threads like these in the archives, you should had better dig them before opening another gonna be tiresome tirade thread.

Ghelle I don't know why did you bother to come into this thread if you don't like it, unless your looking for muran or aflagaado since your a confused attention looking young girl, oops sorry I mean young boy, so if you don't like the topic, tough, don't comment on it, just go to women's section and have a very colourful naac naac naac fight. just disappear please.

[Haatu]

Dawlad xumo,Dawlad la'aaneey ayeey dhaamtaa

AUN naxariisto. The best we can do for him is to stop talking about him. Wuu dhimety AUN. Let's move on.

[MoonLight1]

Yes Allaha u naxariisto marxuumka, laakiin we just want to talk about his actions which we have the right to, good ones as well as bad ones, not his personal life.

[Abwaan]

Dictator whose legacy is very visible today!

[Faarax-Brawn]

Well Debated Barre thread

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

We should judge our leaders on the "NET POSITIVES" they leave behind. What did they inherit vs. the country and legacy they leave behind.

 

Siyaad Barre inherited a young, stable fledgling democracy full of hope and promise. The day Siyaad left Gedo and went to Nigeria, there was nothing left of that country.

 

Watch this video of Mogadishu in the 1960s before Siyaad Barre came to power.

 

Most of the "metrics of development" you listed are there including the birth of the Af-Soomaali (which is surprisingly your first item on the list. )

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDkh2xYuKv8

 

 

Siyaad Barre, Ilaahay ha u naxariisto. Sadly many worse ones came after him.

[Gheelle.T]

Originally posted by MoonLight1:

quote:Muran iyo af lagaado um baa ka imanaaya. There are dozen other threads like these in the archives, you should had better dig them before opening another gonna be tiresome tirade thread.

Ghelle I don't know why did you bother to come into this thread if you don't like it, unless your looking for muran or aflagaado since your a confused attention looking young girl, oops sorry I mean young boy, so if you don't like the topic, tough, don't comment on it, just go to women's section and have a very colourful naac naac naac fight. just disappear please.

You think going to the Woman's section is somehow degrading eh? What a little mind!

[Paragon]

From Corruption to Dictatorship to Chaos.

 

And dictatorship is better than chaos.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by J11:

From Corruption to Dictatorship to Chaos.

 

And dictatorship is better than chaos.

But, the root cause of chaos is corruption and dictatorship,no?