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^War ileen ibtilooy,I swear i looked for that pic and i couldnt find it. L0L,when the heck did the pages move? Anaa iga waaleysaa?

 

Laakin,its all your damned fault,making me log into sol while am suppose to be sending my weekly report. :D

 

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My two cents:

 

Obama may be one heck of a seller and his plans for the country may need some time for implementation but thats beyond the present point. Americans are craving for change and it would seem in the eyes of many Americas across the country that Obama is best to bring about change. At the end of the day, all politicians are liars. They make promises that will never have a chance to come true but thats apart of the game. Say what you got to say to become the leader of a country whose fall from stardom has begun.

 

The truth is, President Bush turned the once well respected World Super Power into a country that is hated Worldwide. Am I wrong? Hated by who you ask? Well, the real question is, who doesnt hate the States? From Canada to Australia, people dont really hate americans in general but they sure hate the America that is represented by Bush.

 

Americans got many issues to think about by the time fall comes around and the next president they select better not be a Republican. John McCain will take the country and bury it to the ground if he is elected as the next president. Among his plans are, to keep an already overworked military in Iraq from the next 100 years although at his age, its highly unlikely that he would survive to finish his first term and Allah knows best. By the way, keeping the U.S. Army in Iraq for five more years is going to be difficult let alone, a hundred more years due to the fact that, a recent report indicated that 5 U.S. soldiers try to kill themselves each and every day. At that rate, who needs "terrorist"? Give them some more time and they will kill themselves until none of them is left standing and thats the outcome of fighting a fight without due right.

 

But people shouldnt allow their emotions to blind them from reality and by that I mean, the truth of the matter is...it is highly unlikely that Obama will become the next president of the US. Why you ask? Well, historically speaking, americans are very conservative people and giving the highest position of government to a black man is something that should be left in the dreams of men because it will never become reality and Allah knows best.

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Wednesday, Feb. 06, 2008

Clinton, Obama: Why Not Both?

By Michael Duffy

 

Here's a quick rundown of the many advantages the Democrats enjoy at this stage of the 2008 campaign. Voter turnout in most states is running well ahead of that for the gop. Democratic fund-raising continues to break all records—even those set previously by Republicans. The Democrats' issues cupboard is fuller than it has been in a decade and a half. And voters have narrowed the field to two wildly popular candidates, either of whom would make history if nominated, much less elected.

 

Given the embarrassment of riches, it was only a matter of time before Democratic voters looked at the choice between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and asked the question, Why not both?

 

That idea had been on some voters' minds even before the dream was made flesh two weeks ago in Los Angeles, where, at the end of the Kodak Theatre debate, Obama and Clinton smiled, embraced each other for more than the usual nanosecond and then seemed to whisper something knowing in each other's ear. After weeks of hand-to-hand combat and rumors of tiffs that may or may not have been real, the Hug rightly or wrongly got even more people thinking about the power of two. Even if their act was dutiful, evanescent and faked for the cameras, party regulars seemed to eat it up. It was all there: the visionary and the technician, the candidate who could inspire the masses and the candidate who could get under the sink and fix the plumbing.

 

For Clinton, pairing with Obama would repair some of the damage with African Americans brought on by her campaign and, at least in theory, push her husband to the sidelines. Obama, in turn, would get a mechanic to match his magic, someone who could turn his poetry into governing prose.

 

A new TIME poll reveals that 62% of Democrats want Clinton to put Obama on the ticket; 51% want Obama to return the favor if he is the nominee. The party's right brain and left brain, dancing together at last, right?

 

Unlikely Partners—for Now

Well, not exactly. It's far too early to know if Obama and Clinton could work together, though there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical. While the Clinton camp saw an opportunity in the general longing of the audience—Clinton fund raiser Terry McAuliffe said on the morning of Super Tuesday that Obama has generated so much excitement, he would have to be considered for the party's vice-presidential nomination—the Obama people saw a trap. If Obama and his aides lent any credence now to the dangled notion of a partnership, they know that some of his voters might peel off, thinking a vote for Clinton was, in effect, a twofer. And that could drive down Obama's turnout. "We're not running for Vice President," said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs.

 

No, and as long as Obama has a real shot at the top spot, there's no need to entertain the Veep talk. As a top Obama aide said, "That's not where this campaign's head is at." Instead, the Obama camp had been expecting the Veep proffer for weeks, just as it had expected the Clinton campaign to play the race card after New Hampshire. Obama headquarters was fully aware that the Clintons had badly overplayed their hand in the days leading up to South Carolina—so badly that Bill or Hillary would have to make some peace offering to Obama's supporters, if not to Obama himself, to heal the breach. But forgiveness, while long a staple of the Clinton narrative, isn't something the Obama team is ready to embrace. An Obama adviser put it this way: "One could argue that the Senator should not even agree to discuss an offer of the vice presidency until Senator Clinton agrees to bar her husband from the West Wing for the duration of the first term. And then once she agrees to that, he should turn it down."

 

More to the point, is the job of Vice President to a Clinton worth having? Al Gore learned that being No. 2 to Bill was really more like being No. 3 after you factored in Hillary, who had an office in the West Wing and a larger suite of rooms down the hall from the Veep in the Old Executive Office Building. Gore watched his priorities often take a backseat to hers in the first term—and his future run aground as they fought successfully to avoid impeachment and conviction. While she joked with David Letterman on his show that there is no doubt "who wears the pantsuits" in her house, there is little doubt that the Clintons intend to work as a team if Hillary is elected. "I'll be there, talking her through everything," Bill said in Napa Valley, Calif., last month, "like she did with me." One unaligned party wise man said, "Obama may look at the Clintons, at both of them—at that whole thing they have—and say, 'Jeez, that's just way too [messed] up to be a part of. That's just no place I want to be.'"

 

If Obama becomes the nominee, the arguments against teaming with the Clintons might be even stronger.Obama's defining issue in the race is not health care or the economy or even the war, where he is most distinct from his rival. It's about being new and different and not from the past; in short, about not being a Clinton. For months he has attacked Clinton for taking money from lobbyists, for flimflamming voters on her war votes and for playing race and gender cards when she fell behind. To reverse all that and join forces with the Clintons would be seen as a huge betrayal of his most galvanizing argument—as well as his character—by many of his followers. The numbers back this up. In Time's poll, 58% of Clinton backers favor bringing Obama onto the ticket; nearly the same percentage (56%) of Obama supporters favor choosing someone else.

 

The Shadow of History

It would be wrong to suggest that the pro-Obama sentiment is universal inside the Clinton camp. It isn't difficult to find those allied with Clinton who believe that Obama would make an underwhelming vice-presidential nominee. Clinton, they say, will want an attack dog both on the trail and as Vice President—a role Obama is ill suited for and uncomfortable assuming. Plus, the states he could deliver she could win on her own.

 

But what really worries Clinton loyalists is that Obama lacks their, well, loyalty. Running her campaign are a host of aides who have worked for the Clintons before, been fired or been kicked aside and yet keep coming back, decade after decade, to help. That's how the Clintons define loyalty. That pattern may explain why there are those in Clintonland who think Obama has wronged her over the course of the campaign simply because he took her on.

 

Against all the mutual animus and anger, however, stands a lot of history. And history suggests a deal later is possible, if not likely, whatever the insiders may think now. More often than not, winners in both parties reach out to losers—or at least contemplate an overture—when the time comes to put a broken party back together. John Kennedy tapped Lyndon Johnson in 1960, though the two men were like oil and water. Ronald Reagan named George H.W. Bush in 1980, though they never became very close. Walter Mondale gave a man he resented, Gary Hart, a good look in 1984, before choosing Geraldine Ferraro. And John Kerry recruited his former rival John Edwards in 2004, though the hard feelings on both sides never went away. Whoever wins these primaries may have no choice but to offer it to the also-ran.

 

So perhaps it is wisest now to think of the Democratic primary campaign not as one race but two: the one for the delegates and the other for reconciliation. We will probably know who wins the delegate race before school is out. But it might be late summer before the parleys and the peacemaking that lead to a partnership get under way. A lot can happen in six months. The party's fortunes could dim; the hard feelings could soften. And by August, who knows? There is no telling what a Democratic nominee will need in a running mate—and vice versa. —With reporting by Jay Newton-Small/Washington

 

Wednesday, Feb. 06, 2008

Clinton, Obama: Why Not Both?

By Michael Duffy

 

Here's a quick rundown of the many advantages the Democrats enjoy at this stage of the 2008 campaign. Voter turnout in most states is running well ahead of that for the gop. Democratic fund-raising continues to break all records—even those set previously by Republicans. The Democrats' issues cupboard is fuller than it has been in a decade and a half. And voters have narrowed the field to two wildly popular candidates, either of whom would make history if nominated, much less elected.

 

Given the embarrassment of riches, it was only a matter of time before Democratic voters looked at the choice between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and asked the question, Why not both?

 

That idea had been on some voters' minds even before the dream was made flesh two weeks ago in Los Angeles, where, at the end of the Kodak Theatre debate, Obama and Clinton smiled, embraced each other for more than the usual nanosecond and then seemed to whisper something knowing in each other's ear. After weeks of hand-to-hand combat and rumors of tiffs that may or may not have been real, the Hug rightly or wrongly got even more people thinking about the power of two. Even if their act was dutiful, evanescent and faked for the cameras, party regulars seemed to eat it up. It was all there: the visionary and the technician, the candidate who could inspire the masses and the candidate who could get under the sink and fix the plumbing.

 

For Clinton, pairing with Obama would repair some of the damage with African Americans brought on by her campaign and, at least in theory, push her husband to the sidelines. Obama, in turn, would get a mechanic to match his magic, someone who could turn his poetry into governing prose.

 

A new TIME poll reveals that 62% of Democrats want Clinton to put Obama on the ticket; 51% want Obama to return the favor if he is the nominee. The party's right brain and left brain, dancing together at last, right?

 

Unlikely Partners—for Now

Well, not exactly. It's far too early to know if Obama and Clinton could work together, though there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical. While the Clinton camp saw an opportunity in the general longing of the audience—Clinton fund raiser Terry McAuliffe said on the morning of Super Tuesday that Obama has generated so much excitement, he would have to be considered for the party's vice-presidential nomination—the Obama people saw a trap. If Obama and his aides lent any credence now to the dangled notion of a partnership, they know that some of his voters might peel off, thinking a vote for Clinton was, in effect, a twofer. And that could drive down Obama's turnout. "We're not running for Vice President," said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs.

 

No, and as long as Obama has a real shot at the top spot, there's no need to entertain the Veep talk. As a top Obama aide said, "That's not where this campaign's head is at." Instead, the Obama camp had been expecting the Veep proffer for weeks, just as it had expected the Clinton campaign to play the race card after New Hampshire. Obama headquarters was fully aware that the Clintons had badly overplayed their hand in the days leading up to South Carolina—so badly that Bill or Hillary would have to make some peace offering to Obama's supporters, if not to Obama himself, to heal the breach. But forgiveness, while long a staple of the Clinton narrative, isn't something the Obama team is ready to embrace. An Obama adviser put it this way: "One could argue that the Senator should not even agree to discuss an offer of the vice presidency until Senator Clinton agrees to bar her husband from the West Wing for the duration of the first term. And then once she agrees to that, he should turn it down."

 

More to the point, is the job of Vice President to a Clinton worth having? Al Gore learned that being No. 2 to Bill was really more like being No. 3 after you factored in Hillary, who had an office in the West Wing and a larger suite of rooms down the hall from the Veep in the Old Executive Office Building. Gore watched his priorities often take a backseat to hers in the first term—and his future run aground as they fought successfully to avoid impeachment and conviction. While she joked with David Letterman on his show that there is no doubt "who wears the pantsuits" in her house, there is little doubt that the Clintons intend to work as a team if Hillary is elected. "I'll be there, talking her through everything," Bill said in Napa Valley, Calif., last month, "like she did with me." One unaligned party wise man said, "Obama may look at the Clintons, at both of them—at that whole thing they have—and say, 'Jeez, that's just way too [messed] up to be a part of. That's just no place I want to be.'"

 

If Obama becomes the nominee, the arguments against teaming with the Clintons might be even stronger.Obama's defining issue in the race is not health care or the economy or even the war, where he is most distinct from his rival. It's about being new and different and not from the past; in short, about not being a Clinton. For months he has attacked Clinton for taking money from lobbyists, for flimflamming voters on her war votes and for playing race and gender cards when she fell behind. To reverse all that and join forces with the Clintons would be seen as a huge betrayal of his most galvanizing argument—as well as his character—by many of his followers. The numbers back this up. In Time's poll, 58% of Clinton backers favor bringing Obama onto the ticket; nearly the same percentage (56%) of Obama supporters favor choosing someone else.

 

The Shadow of History

It would be wrong to suggest that the pro-Obama sentiment is universal inside the Clinton camp. It isn't difficult to find those allied with Clinton who believe that Obama would make an underwhelming vice-presidential nominee. Clinton, they say, will want an attack dog both on the trail and as Vice President—a role Obama is ill suited for and uncomfortable assuming. Plus, the states he could deliver she could win on her own.

 

But what really worries Clinton loyalists is that Obama lacks their, well, loyalty. Running her campaign are a host of aides who have worked for the Clintons before, been fired or been kicked aside and yet keep coming back, decade after decade, to help. That's how the Clintons define loyalty. That pattern may explain why there are those in Clintonland who think Obama has wronged her over the course of the campaign simply because he took her on.

 

Against all the mutual animus and anger, however, stands a lot of history. And history suggests a deal later is possible, if not likely, whatever the insiders may think now. More often than not, winners in both parties reach out to losers—or at least contemplate an overture—when the time comes to put a broken party back together. John Kennedy tapped Lyndon Johnson in 1960, though the two men were like oil and water. Ronald Reagan named George H.W. Bush in 1980, though they never became very close. Walter Mondale gave a man he resented, Gary Hart, a good look in 1984, before choosing Geraldine Ferraro. And John Kerry recruited his former rival John Edwards in 2004, though the hard feelings on both sides never went away. Whoever wins these primaries may have no choice but to offer it to the also-ran.

 

So perhaps it is wisest now to think of the Democratic primary campaign not as one race but two: the one for the delegates and the other for reconciliation. We will probably know who wins the delegate race before school is out. But it might be late summer before the parleys and the peacemaking that lead to a partnership get under way. A lot can happen in six months. The party's fortunes could dim; the hard feelings could soften. And by August, who knows? There is no telling what a Democratic nominee will need in a running mate—and vice versa. —With reporting by Jay Newton-Small/Washington

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....Support Israel's Right to Self Defense: During the July 2006 Lebanon war, Barack Obama stood up strongly for Israel's right to defend itself from Hezbollah raids and rocket attacks, cosponsoring a Senate resolution against Iran and Syria's involvement in the war, and insisting that Israel should not be pressured into a ceasefire that did not deal with the threat of Hezbollah missiles. He believes strongly in Israel's right to protect its citizens....

 

 

BARACK OBAMA: A STRONG RECORD OF SUPPORTING THE

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This guy is on fire, I am telling ya! Not that I am a racist or any thing, but it would be cool if the so called "most powerful man in this world" would be a black dude. Ilaahay baa awood leh.

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Upset in Maine -- the "whitest" state in America

 

Underdog Obama beats frontrunner Hillary in Maine. This is the fifth win for him in two days. Hillary today fired her Hispanic campaign manager and replaced her with an African American confidant. I wouldn't count Hillary out however, as the Clintons are known to engineer sensational comebacks.

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^^^ And yet most people like Lazy and Ngonge will find it difficult to beleive that Obama has come this far.I can sense denial of the presence in them. I don't know when they will accept Obama's upward victory.It is surely woven in the pattern of white America psyche :D

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Sanka, you must be beside yourself. 5 states under your belt, and still Hilary has more delegates than your boy Obama.

 

I am very confident that mrs clinton will capture Virginia, maryland and District of Columbia tomorrow.

 

Anyone watch 60minutes lastnight? If yes, what did you think of both interviews?

 

Obama didn't seem sure of himself.

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I am very confident that mrs clinton will capture Virginia, maryland and District of Columbia tomorrow

Laysi,heedhe,quit it while you are ahead. The Potomac Primaries will be a sweep for the next president of the USA. Watch out Miss;VA,MD & DC will ALLLLL go to Barrack.

 

Already,Habarta changed her campaign staff & she "borrowed" money from herself to her campaign(i do that alot too,lol). It aint going pretty for the Mrs yaqoo. Its all about the O-MAN himself.

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I will hold lazy responsible for that quote come wednesday morning :D ....

In Tuesday Chesapeake primary I will put my money on Obama. He is the one with the momentum for now and I will predict that race being a factor he will claim the delegates from District of Colombia and Maryland especially. When you look at polls such as Mason-Dixon poll of February 7-9 Virginia likely democrat voters favored Obama over Clinton in 53 to 37 percent respectively. I am more concerned with him wining states like Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania where the total delegates for grab are more than last weekend combined. If you listened to Tim Russet of NBC analysis on Sunday this will be a pitch folk battle for delegates. The game is not over yet.

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^ brownie, please don't burn. Virginia is hers, not so sure about maryland(blacks tend to vote for blacks) and DC is up for grabs eedo, but as I said before, I am confident that she will go 3-0 or 2-1, either way, Hilary will build on her lead over him.

 

Just an observation, from all the segments I watched, from senators or congressman/women's take on the two candidates, no one sees obama as a leader of any sort. When asked their take on obama, the answer is always "he brings hope back to americans'" or "he energizer's the young voters", I am sorry, but america and the world doesn't need a fulltime motivational speaker and part time preacher, they want a president.

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Originally posted by LayZie G.:

^ brownie, please don't burn. Virginia is hers, not so sure about maryland(blacks tend to vote for blacks) and DC is up for grabs eedo, but as I said before, I am confident that she will go 3-0 or 2-1, either way, Hilary will build on her lead over him.

 

Just an observation, from all the segments I watched, from senators or congressman/women's take on the two candidates, no one sees obama as a leader of any sort. When asked their take on obama, the answer is always "he brings hope back to americans'" or "he energizer's the young voters", I am sorry, but america and the world doesn't need a fulltime motivational speaker and part time preacher, they want a president.

I agree,VA is a toss up. But,MD & DC will go to Obama. Thats 2 out of three states OK. Considering how relatively unknown this fella was just some months ago & here he is neck in neck with the lady,come on,give it up to him.

 

Blacks dont tend to vote for Blacks,they have had a presidential candidate since 1988 and they have never voted for them like they are voting for Obama,OK. So,lets be honest. And until he won IOWA,Mrs Clinton had a commanding lead.

 

When Senators,leaders & congressmen all say he "brings hope" & "change" thats another way of saying Obama without alienating Mrs Clinton.

 

Personally,i wish this race is over next week,because as long as it drags on,the really old short soldier will capitalize on this.

 

Lugeeye,Tell her :D

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