Khadafi

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  1. I heard the news from a friend Safferz.. He was professional and made the unique somali culture and its huge collective oral litterature available to english speakers. His humble nomadic background as a camel herder as a boy and then a professor in a prestigous university (Rutgers) truly showes that what ever social standing you are born into, you still can make a diffirence with a pure heard and a good education. He has also some what shaped the somali youth diaspora (those 30-40 plus) who wanted a intellectual understanding regarding the culture of pastoral-nomadism, spread of islam in the horn of africa and the urban-city state culture of southern Somalis. I still do rely upon his well written books when making historical references, so my condolances goes to his family and friends. He was also a brave man who intellectualy challenged the well established theory of Lewis regarding somalis being only "nomads". With Said's contribution, the academica has fully accepted his ideas regarding the existense of semi-nomadism and more importantly , the big role that urban city state commmunities had in shaping the collective somali pshyche . He was also one of the few intellectuals who dared to challenge Barre's regime through a well known international media outlet. We lost a great man but his ideas will live on. My personal condoleances goes to his family and friends.
  2. <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> . Yesterday, I met one of our local sheiks who is a well respected in the city. He helps our community bury the dead through the local mosques and government agencies and he regularly visits prisons for Somali youth. After few chats , I began my usual Al-shabab condemnation and other issues in Somalia. I told him that while Al-shbaab is defeated militarily , the religious and political infrastructure that created the environment must be also eliminated in order not to allow them to come back. At the same time the ideological leaders of the movement who physically didn't take the gun but nurtured these people must be exposed and pushed out from the public sphere unless they repent the destruction their Wahabi ideologies caused the Somali people for the last eight or more years. He agreed with me about these thoughts, but when I mentions about this book written by Scholar A/saciid ismacill, he said " Adeer nin wanaagsan baad tahay oo wax badan fahmaya, laakiin waxaan ku odhan lahaa yaan lagaa maqlin ninki galbeedi ahaa ayaa bugaas amaanaya ama qoraagan ku raacsan waxa uu qoray'. basically he said do not mention that book if you want to be taken seriously by your community. besides his family who are in gaalkacayo will kill him as soon as they see him ". After few exchanges I told him ' sheikh read the book before you judge'. I would like to tell everyone of you to read the book before you judge. . I also would like to thank brother Nuune for uploading the book in sol. Having almost read the whole book , I could say that I have gained a great deal of knowledge and insight about Islam and our culture. Through this book I realized how little I knew about the science and the vast Islamic literature collected by scholars throughout centuries. I realized how rich is the Islamic justprudience and literature as compared to others. When extremists talk about Islamic Sharia, all you hear is chopping hand from a poor who stole something or a woman stoned in the land controlled by them. You don't see reasoning, mercy or the conditions that created the problem. We don't have real Ullema who have the interest of their communities and their nation , what we have is robots who want to have power over others and want to punish people. It seems the most ruthless sociopaths carrying " qori iyo Kitaab". DR. C/saciid explained the taboo subjects that Arabs and others wouldn't like to discuss. it shows the brilliance and philosophical thoughts of early scholars like Immam Shafici, Sufian al-Towri, hanafi and others. Sifting through this fourteen century years old knowledge is needed specialized scholars of great knowledge. decently it is not something UMmal, or Sheikh Idris and others who are " Bayd gaab' warmongers could handle. By accepting his argument , they will be exposed to answer the blood they spilled in Somalia while backing war against Somali state. The idea of the Amir using religion to punish or reward people were in my mind for a long time. I discussed with few people of knowledge. it is difficult to find a place to exchange ideas in our culture. Look at the latest example of al-shabaab. The Amir killed or put in prison everyone who had different reasoning than his. In order to save these man from ruthless Sheikhs like Ummal , who already created a hostile environment for this scholar and his family we must speak out and urge people to read the book and make their mind. I wish we could invite him in North America so we can gain some knowledge from him and expose the liars who are spreading mischief. Galbeedi well said. Your discussion with the respected Somali scholar showes how our society is vulnerable or not equipped with the right tools to engage in a intellectual debate. The respected scholar that you met and took the firm stance to distance you for saying read the book before making a judgement is a clear example that radical wahabi clerics, with no tradition in Somali culture has completely hijacked our society. During the mid 70-ties when "communism" was on the rise in Somalia, we somalis were the only nation where you could find the most hardline leftist in the streets of mogadishu engaging in debates but who hurried to the mosque when the prayers of "maqrib" were called. Our spritual connection to the deen can not be broken Alhamdulilah. A relative of mine who was sent to Sovietunion for further education ended up in Baku Azerbajan. He told us as soon he landed with fellow three other fellow somalis they went to the town square and engaged in partying. Who can blame them? Seeing blue eyed girls with a bottle of vodka? After sobering up they saw the most beutifull mosques in the city but they were mystiorusly empty of folks. They simply went in and prayed salat in the mosque to the astonishment of the Azerbajanis. Police arrived on the spot and my poor relative and his two friends got the punishment by having additional boring courses on how degenanartive religion is. He later found that people indeed prayed but the rituals were done in the homes. The point here is that spirituality and Islam is deeply attached to our cultural identity but what needs to be understood and discussed is how did we peacefull muslim Somalis end up with a supposedly "islamic organisation" that carries out suicide attacks against medical students on their graduation day. How did these supposedly "muslims" justify the gruesome acts of murder on fellow muslims?. No one dares to speak about this becouse of the risk of alienation. I will come back to this question but before I do so: See what happend to the poor Shaykh that wrote this book. He was brutally attacked with false allegations and a well known cleric openly tried to stigmatise him as "atheist, or munharif". Our un-literate society values oral statements and that oral buzz have a huge impact. If no Somali shaykh comes out and clearly defines in a truthfull manner what the book is all about I am very sure that his life is at risk. It's disgracefull that the BBC's Somali service team has declined in the terms of quality. Open questions that are still in the air is why they chose to interview that specefic man that is known to have flip-flop positions, sometimes his a extremist and sometimes he is not. Why did they not ask Umul that he himself declared a fatwa of Jihad against the late Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) while he himself lived in a non-muslim organisation and openly signed a peace-agreement (al-itihaad or UWSLF) with the Ethiopian government. If I do recall it correctly he even made a offical visit to Jigjiga after signing the peace agreement. When his students objected to the flip-flop he simply qouted some verses and "voila" he sucsessfully escaped the mouse-trap that he had sat up for his fellow mice. Galbeedi correct if I am wrong on this. But I do remember this incident. <blockquote>At the same time the ideological leaders of the movement who physically didn't take the gun but nurtured these people must be exposed and pushed out from the public sphere unless they repent the destruction their Wahabi ideologies caused the Somali people for the last eight or more years That's one of the most wisest and clearly naked truth that no one can deny. If I go back to the earlier question how we ended up with suicide-bombers and murders all in the name of Islam. We need to go back to the enermous change that the islamic ummah has gone through. I've often said on SOL that Sufism is on the decline in Somalia, specially in the north despite that it played a vital role in the history of the spread of Islam as an instution in the horn of Africa. It connected the existing culture with sprituality and belifs of Islam. The only viable documented multi-clan settlements that were known in Somalia were Baardheere and in other southern regions. Same settlements could be seen in the north and in the Somali regional state of Ethiopia. Desperate nomads that became poor becouse of starvation would settle down in these communities and attach themselves to sufi orders. Even the social fabric our society were divided. The Wadaad was the spiritual non-materialistic often poor economically. He was a knowledge seeking individual that had a free-pass ticket to all regions of the Somali peninsuala. His clan orientation was never a issue. The city of Merka has today the grave of a very well known Shaykh that originates from Puntland and Baardheere likewise. The wadaad read the holy book and prayed to god and teached the kids the Quran. The only "social welfare instution" that existed during those days were those of the community of sufi-order or "xerta" If someone was hungry he simply went to the community and had a free meal. If he chose to stay their forever he bound to swear an oath of bay'a (allegiance) and become a wandering dervish and if not he was a free man to go. The wadaad sometimes settled disputes between feuding clans. Some clans were only known to be wadaads and their "job" was to settle disputes. The Waranle were the ones engaged in what we would today label as "al-shabaab" activities, meaning that he killed and engaged in blood-shed all in the name of power. A wadaad with spear was a big taboo. During the colonialism most missionaries in Somalia failed to convert masses of Somali clans as it had done in other african nations. Sufism's big attachement to the social fabric of Somalia was a clear obstacle to their missionary activities. Some individuals indeed became christians but religon was a private matter. They were never repulsed or stigmatised (compared to these times) and becouse of this and the economical boom and self-confidence that Somalia felt during the 70-ties most of them converted back to Islam. The families of the nationalist that fought against the colonialists, Maykal Marymana was a christian but most of his family are today muslims. So what happend? Wahabism and it's holy trinity of Abdul-Wahabs invented "uluhiya rububiya" etc that Khayr mentioned and the oil boom of Saudia Arabia would be a game-changer. If the saudis would not have found oil the sect that allowed the house of Al-Saud to power would probably be today a small and obscure sect found only in the deserts of najd. He, Aali-Sacuud was drawn to Ibn-Abdul-Wahab ideas: Mainly that only those who heard his call were muslims and those who rejected it were pagans. In order to gain power you first need to have valid arguements for shedding his blood. What's more attractive idea while fighting fellow muslims is that your party are warriors on jihad, fighting pagans just as the prophet did during his defence of the small poor community of the devoted saxaba (ra). Takfirism opended the doors chaos. The poor Turks who were busy defending their empire from the hands of the colonialists suddenly found themselves all alone and on top of that being called pagans! During the 60-80 ties when the kingdom, or the house of Saud were terrefied of the spread of Socialism & Ba'thism and even politicised Islam (the muslim brother hood) poured billions of dollars on spreading their version of Islam. These three ideologies have one thing in common: Kingdom or monarchy belongs to the scrap-yard of history. They (the saudis) saw the fall of King Faisal in Iraq and the near collapse of Jordan in the hands of the leftist organisations of PFLP and Fatah, the saudi masses tuned in to the attractive ideas of nasserism and arab nationalism. While socialism & ba'thism has become a minor threat in our days the enermous growth of the muslim brotherhood has made Saudi Arabia the biggest donor to Egypt's sisi. The man who toppled a democratic elected government. The radio-waves of Saudi-Arabia reached Somalia and it did so when our society were very vulnerable. The collapse of every instution and even our government, massive starvation and a brutal civil war with bloody warlords made wahabism an option. The slogan "quran & sunnah is enough for us" became popular as if the Quran and the Sunna did not exist in Somalia and indeed how can you argue with a man who says those words?. Redlines will be crossed, if you do not raise your questions in a proper manner. The point is Galbeedi, wahabism is a pandoras box. With Takfirism and politicised Islam, using islam to gain power (in the form of wahabism, not turkish-erbkanism) comes brutality. An organisation that claims only legitimacy from God and who labels those outside the organisation as non-muslims makes you vulnerable and that is what exactly happend in Somalia. I remember an old maqaal-article written by Prof Said S Samatar. He said that the fragmental clan society of pastoral nomadism makes it impossible for Somalia to become a stronghold for al-qaeda like organisations. While I read the maqaal, with all due to respect to him. I noticed that he was somehow not updated in how much sufism had declined in Somalia. If it had not declined his hypothesis would probably been correct. The years went on and the young lads, al-shabaab grew stronger and so did the pandoras box. The old leaders of politicised Islam were themselves ex-communicated by the young lads. A bizarre situation arose when Xassan Daahir Aweys and Cali Warsame, The oldest ideologues of the new wahabi-elite were made gaalo by their own students. Such is the face of takfirism and xagjirnimo. Ironically Sheekh Xassan Daahir Aweys had to flee by a boat from his own students and Sheekh Cali warsame was publically humiliated in Hargeysa when he tried to reconcile his mistakes. We today have brothers like ditoore Kennedy who proudly echoes the words of "everything will be fine if we are ruled by the shariica" but when you explain that 99% of all somalis use the Shariica in civil matters the spectrum becomes dizzy. I spoke to a friend of mine who has a masters degree political science. He lived in Germany and came to visit me. To my astonishment at the airport, my friend had become a salafi, with a full grown beard and a arabic khamis. He resembled those old somalis that you usally see in Xawaala. I wonder why all the Xawaala guys grow a beard? We engaged in the most broad ranging discussions and I loved him for his humility. He had the best aqlaaq. I asked him, "hayeee, XXXX maxaad noo haysaa, what kind of government is suitable for us, federalism iyo iska daba wareegiisa waaba ku waashay". He answerd in a way that implied that he wanted an islamic government. I said to him that the somali constitution says that all the laws must be derived from the islamic shariica. He spoke of the ideal societies during times of our beloved prophet scw and the ever blessed four caliphs. I then asked him, XXX, It's very easy to claim an islamic government but a few countries have openly declared themselves to be so, choose from these alternatives!. I gave him these following options, and when ever you see someone lurking for power by using our beutifull religion healthy realistic questions showes his true intentions. Anyway the options I gave him was following: a) Wilayah Faqih system, Aka Khomenei shi'i style of government where a single cleric has the final say on every issue, and if your not with him your in a hidden prison somewhere in the dungeons of Teheran (Advanced Persian culture has overcome clanism, this system is not suitable in Somalia, qabiilkee ayuu noqon doona "ayatollaahiga" Soomaliya) b) Saudi style of system: A king with a bunch of clerics that supports him (of all the systems that exists in the would. Nomads will never accept a king or a monarchy.K ingship is impossible in Somalia. We had a dictator during 21 years and we all know what happend, and by the way islam does not promote monarchies. c) Pakistan- They call themselves the Islamic republic of Pakistan but I really do not know the politics of pakistan. It somehow resembles a british style of government but with the ideals of islam. (NO COMMENT) d) Taliban way of system- (Ban TV and everything modern, mix islamic values with hard core afghan pashtunwali culture. This system is simply to extreme for Somalia. Women in a pastoral society have allways had a strong character in our society and we are not pashtuns. e) Sudan ( A simple Siyaad Barre military dictatorship that uses islam to unify it's diffirent ethnic group but their is some great diffirences. Sudan have had a great cultural ex-change with arabic countries. Despite clanism being strong, the strong intellectual class with close ties to Egypt have completly transformed Sudan. It's unique becouse of it's the only arab/african nation where sufism has not declined, on the contray it has become stronger. If only democracy or some kind power-sharing system existed I belive that Sudan is a prime example. They are near us and close to our way of thinking. f) Turkey- A pro islamic party with a pro buisness and modern outlook with a functioning democracy (I wish we could reach this state, but lets face it, we are busy with fencing a few patches of clan-hebellands instead of intergrating and sharing our great wealth. g) Med-evil style ISIS style- A bunch of arab tribes men met in a hut in the desert and chose the caliph of 1,6 billion muslims. Obey him, if not your head is literally served in the table, by the way, the arab caliph must be from a qurashi clan. (Absolutely no comment) So what did my friend answer? He was to clever to be cornerd into a trap and said neither. He humbly said that he wanted true islamic ideas of mercy, justice and equality. I happily agreed with him and asked him to pray to Allah for our nation. We had a great dinner and went to our local mosque.
  3. Galbeedi and Kennedy good inputs. I' have not read the book but I radically changed my approach to the book when I read Hiiran.com's introduction of the author behind the book. I do not trust those mentioned Culomo so called "islamic scholars" but at the begenning I felt that this book might have been written by frustrated missionary or a controverisal starter. Fame to day is today to trash Islam, just join the caravan of Ayaan Xirsi. Dr Abdi Sa'id is a well known islamic intellectual and all that he has done that I can say is that he is trying widen our understanding of ridda (apostasy) during the time of our prophet (pbuh) and reconciling it our times. Khayr said it before me, He is trying open the gates of ijtihad. Islam is a religion of peace, and it spread mostly by peace. The Qur'an clearly states that their is no compulsion in the religon but the penalty for apostasty is death. So how do we reconcile these polarised issues?. Just as brother Kennedy stated their is no confusion. Sprituality (Imaan) belif in god etc is hidden in it's pure form. God clearly says that he is the only one who knowes what lays in our hearts and it is to him/her/it (pronouns does not describe Allah) that final judgement lies upon. This is Bâtini or the meta-physical aspects our religion. No tool, no machine, can enter your soul and tap in too your nearness to God. The Axkaamlayta for apostasy (gaalnimo) must be understood in the context of time that the messenger lived. As every messenger, he was persecuated and his own nearest kin were ready by blood to wipe out the poor and marginalised followers of Xabiika (jacaylkeena) scw. In those harsh times betrayal could have a devestating effect. My limited understanding is that the author simply tried to create a discussion, a intellectual one and BTW many before him have done this, Tariq Ramadan, Shaykh Qaradawi and even Nasaradin Albani (the albanian who said that the gates of ijtihad were open). These intellectual theological discussions are needed, for every century God has promised as a mujadid (renewer). If you de-compile the word "renewal" you will see that one has to argue with the old, a pracrical example is during chaotic time of Mu'tazila in islamic history. Theological wars ranged and chaos prevailed. Greek philosophy made it's entry into the intellectuals/theologians of that time. A star, and bright one, Abu hamid al Ghazali, famously refuted and reconciled philosopgical arguements with Islam. After his demise, alle ha u naxariisto, Orthodoxy returned to the diffirent muslim civilisations. The point here is that al-Ghazali met stiff resistance during his time before they were widely accepted. So who are we to judge this Somali Islamic scholar for taking the pencil and with a respectfull tone writing his thoughts. MMA and Nuune and Galbeedi, what I dont understand is why did the BBC Somali choose one of the most radical preachers that today exists within the Somalis? Umul is famous for being a fire brand preacher of Jihad during the days of the late president Cabdullahi Yusuf. He even encouraged war during those times. His speaches are archived in youtube for those who doubt him. The poor, from rags to multi-millionaire preacher Umul's succses in Nayroobi is like seing the rise of a Nigerian TV-evangelist. Those famous for ramblings and claiming to be God's represantives on earth. A year ago, Umul claimed a famous somali Shaykh (the preacher on the state somali tv) for being a Sh'iite. The news spread and the poor wadaad come out and denied the accusations. Lies and envy are only confined to the common people. Let's be more close to time, 2 months ago, a more fire-brand, a rags to riches somali scholar, Shibili said in TV that he saw with his own eyes 700 girls somalis girls in the same roof in hospital getting treatment for Aids. When a reporter made some re-search and found these allegations to be false, Shibili was famously to be found no-where. The BBC-Somali service is to blame for causing confusion of a simple book by making the author simmilior to our kind of Salman Rushdie, after doing this they went to the most radical fire brand preacher and presented him as the only represeantive of Somali scholars.
  4. -Johnny Your correct, The verdict and the outcome does not lie with him. The "holier thent hou" mentality are for the ego-centric ones. I for sure do not have anything against critical minds as long it's done with respect. What Xabad wrote, and in those words are certaintly not of respect. It's simply offensive. It's agressive and demonizing.
  5. Xabad- Life will come to an end, love it or not, you will be raised and atoms weight of good and vica verse will be recounted. Qur'aan ha lu saaro. Hadaad saan ku sii socoto naar ku bishaareyso. The Admins need to ban this man.
  6. Galbeedi, you nailed the truth. For every tree it has it's roots and before the root's it has it's seed. I have made some posts regarding "wahabism" how it has influenced our society. Islaam is a religion of peace, a instution that unites us when we are divided. The Wadaad, in the meaning of the word, was before the advent of wahabism, the barrier between the spiritual and the material in the eyes of the Somalis. The wadaad was the one who roamed free in the semi-deserts of Somalia, teaching the childreen the words of God, the qur'aan and he would rejoice with his fellow wadaads in the xerta,They read the quran and teach us morals and then in secluded areas dance in spiritual ectasy. Their aim was to find Allah and in their hearts. That was harmonius way. A taboo, and a great one was the wadaad caught in clan-warfares and killings. Now it's the opposite. The clan warriors are those chained in the house and the claimers to wadaads are those who are killing in the name of God. The known Somali Ulema, who spread islam were all sufis. The oromos in the deep heartland of of Ethiopia were made muslims by Shaykh Cabdirxmaan Saylaci. Then came Shaykh Uweys who spread islam to the southern frontiers. Then came the 80-ties and the boom of oil in Saudi Arabia. A somali youngsters who had lived the harsh heartlands of Saudia Arabia would comeback to Somali and have audacity to say that his fellow somalis were not muslims, they were infact mushriks (like those of pre-islamic arabs) why? Becouse of a theoligical diffirence he was ready to say that who ever did not share his thoughts was a non-muslim. The beginning and the saga of Takfirism begun.
  7. <cite> @Khayr said:</cite> Do these companies even keep Financial Statements and Annual Reports? Scary right? Reminds of a Xawaala that everyone invested in and then some guys just robbed it by taking out large amounts of Us dollars in Dubai. Thousands of Somalis lost their life savings, and here we have a chap saying that these xawalas are our banks. I Agree with you that they are a form a bank, they do some bank services like remittance and they are far better on that then western-union but they are far from being a "bank" By the way, What happend to Dahabshiil in the UK? Did not Barclays refuse to work with them and they were therefore under threat to close all xawala offices`?
  8. Khayr 1+! I hope that this thread creates an honest discssion regarding Somalis rankings. Some people when confonted with harsh facts are quick to arm themselves with the argument "well, somalia with no functioning state has the best and cheapest telecommunications in Africa, better then Egypt or Ethiopia". After the reply comes picturs on some bizarre non-urban planned buildings with weird colors as proof on the prosperity that Somalia gained despite the civil war. These replys eases the inferioty complex and eases the anxiety when seeing your countrey being on the bottom of every index of misery. A couple of months of ago, or a year MMA posted a survey about corrpution in the World and guess what? Somalia was one of the most corrupt nations in the world. That did not come as a shock but what was more intresting is how dismissive we were on that report. I have to be honest, I too was one of those people who used to buy that bullshit that Somalia, despite the mountanious political social and economical challenges it's facing- they were still better of then other black african nations. Why should they not be so? After all, remember that reality in Somalia is like scene from a mad-max movie, a non-regulated free for all free-market with no taxes and no nothing- A place where an investor can do what ever he wants. Economy is not my field of study but I guess that the above mentioned recipe is good. A somali guy who has masters in economy and now pursuing Phd explained the hoax during a conferance, most of the attendes of the conferance were Somalis with a few cadaan. I still remember how grim the faces of the listeners became when the speaker said the truth. I do not remember the details but a quick summary is: a) Yes, it is true that Somalia has the cheapest tele-communication in Africa, but a well keept secret is that the private somali companies buy something called "airwaves" from a satellite. The mad-max situation with no tax also makes the calls cheap but the good economist said the revenues lost from the taxes hurts the society in the long run. No taxes means indirectly not a penny to the "good will of society". Egypt and Ethiopia does have a more expensive rate but the tax revenues means more good will to the society and in the long run better national economy. b) Local X-lands can jump and puff but the truth is that since 1991 no major infrastacural projects have been completed. Like it or not, all major roads, all docks were built by state. Bad infrastacture means lesser investments. c) Energy- Somalia is the only nation in Africa that has a river but does not have a powerplant. Energy used is imported. Our neighbors allready have dams but are now planning more as the population grows, in a bigger since, while our neighbors have a central fixed planned economy aims, Somalia does not. Qaxwada hala cabo, caraftiisana hala ursado (lets make coffe and smell it) lol.
  9. <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> Like newspapers, some Sheekhs are manufacturing news to get more audience. The problem is no one will confront the Sheikh about ant thing they say. We all afraid " in ay xerada Islaamka Inaga Saaraan, Ilayn Awood ayey u Leeyihiine" Galbeedi, your right on this. This statement or "muxadaro" was done by a well known Somali cleric who is invited to religious conferences around the globe. He is also rich, during the middle 90-ties this man poor and now he is one of those rich wadaads you find in Nayroobi. I am not jealous but serious questions needs to be answerd when you see a man from the rags to the riches. As the reporter Abdul-Hafid said, his words will have a huge impact on on the Somali society. What I am asking my self is : why did not those 200+ attenders raise a critical or the simple question "dear shaykh, we are living in the UK, could you give us the address to the institute where 700 girls with HIV are treated!" To be honest galbeedi, I would not have the guts do raise that question because of what you mentioned. Since the out break of the civil war and the collapse of the academical "foundations" of Somalis its understandable that Somalis rely on "wadaads" or on our respected culomo, our culture teaches that. Culumo were those who did not indulge in tribal wars, they were the peacemakers who had a free-passport to freely roam in the somali peninsula between different feuding tribes. A tribe that was hostile to a tribe that the wadaad originated from would not be hurt. He would even be allowed to live their and open a "dugsi". Thats gone now, politicized Islam, aka Khomeneni style wadaads are the new warlords. This raises important questions really. What happened? Who did the peacefull wadaad, known by teaching the joyfull message of Allah and his prophet scw become the one with the gun and murdering people in the name of Allah and claiming power in his name?. I decided not to post the video of the muxadaro where the wadaad says girls with HIV but since it is a public recorded muxaadaro I will post here in SOL. For those who have diseases in their heart and become happy when they get the chance to bash religion are not welcome. Let's have a honest discussion. See the full muxaadaro with the comments by the reporter Abdul Hafid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGrHPoasvs
  10. Sometime, news frenzy people like to know the local "buzz" or the warka by simply going to the local cafés. That's the somali way of getting gruesome "tabloid like" news. A a couple of months ago the buzz on every lip was "JUBBA JUBBA JUBBA". The Xalimos while preparing food were saying to each other "haye ma maqashay warka, JUBBA JUBBA JUBBA". The men were discussing it everywhere. Thats simply our habit. When we meet each other the local habit/costume of greeting is " iskaa WARan-an". (talk to me). Ponder about it, a a somali saying to another somali "talk about yourself", this schizophrenic phrase is what makes us wonderful and a very social group. I went to the local cafeteria in town and heard the latest buzz. While sitting with a friends, a friend with the nick name "bizarro" and who has a bad habit by saying bizarre news told us bluntly "700 girls are locked up somewhere in a institution in UK because of Aids". The fadhi-ku-dirir became silent and our ears and eyes turned to him. While some of us are trying to outsmart each other by talking about "sophisticated" topics like "peak oil and somalia" Mr bizarro gets the spotlight by droppings news that makes you choke on the local pastry! Reason comes after the shock. I asked to him "what are you saying". He replied back and said that a famous somali shaykh went to the UK and saw 700 girls between the age 14-19 in treatment for Aids. (I will not mention names) and that the shaykh has said this in a sermon-khutba Dhagawayne (big ears) known to us by dismissing facts quickly replied "war ma waalantahay! How can 700 be in the same hospital/institution for a single common disease, when did UK practise segregation of racial lines, and why would they be in a hospital when anti-viral drugs are free in the UK?. Mr bizarro looked to his left and right and answered " I dont know, I only come with the news" That was the buzz I heard. I later made some searches on the internet and found what Bizarro had known a week before. The brilliant Universal tv-reporter Abdi-Hafid asked UK's NHS about the institution and they dismissed the idea and said they they did now a hospital caring for 700 Somali girls with AIDS. In-conclusion, it's good to have an awareness about deadly diseases and as far as I know, Somalis are not immune to this disease but whats acceptable and whats not? We all add something to our speeches to make the message and point heard understood. The truth exposes something and not even the culumo are immune from this. By the way, I forgot to mention what dhagawayne said to Mr Bizarro before we left the cafeteria He said "what compelled the shaykh to see 700 teenage girls, what about the boys, for every girl their should statistically be boys, this HIV-AIDS is not limited to women". Bizarro simply replied back: "War ani miyaa iga shakisantahay in aan qabo cudurkaasi"
  11. Culture is not static, it's ever changing and we are today living in a globalized world, Bashir Goth is not a colonialist "lover" but he thinks that he is some kind of a cultural vanguard of what somali culture is and whats alien. Thats wrong. His nostalgic view about the dress of somali women as wearing dirac instead of the jilbaab (black shroud) as he calls it is a bit wrong. Most somali women in the liberal west choose to wear it by their free choice BUT lets talk a about the MEN. Look at the picture of the men. A guy is wearing a saudi arabian dress with the cigaal and everything. Why has he not mentioned him in his critique?. What has forced a guy to dress upp like Saudi prince when saudi-arabia is one of those countries who torture and "tatxiilo" somalis. Why take the dress of your opressor?. But I don't blame him, if the guy like the beduin najdi arabic clothing thats his choice. Ditoore kennedy. Your very quick to label people as secularists (some are indeed) but be more vigilant towards people who use religion as tool to gain power and oppress people. I have said before. The most dangerous people are those "wadaadnimada iska dhig" and who know nothing about Islam and use it to kill other Muslims. Bashir Goth has by the written a lot good articles defending Islam against vicious attacks from islamo-phobic racists in the west and from AL-QAEDA-ISIS takfirists. I respect him for that.
  12. Is the USA still the land of dreams as it were in the 1950-1970 or is it a nation crumbling within becouse of the debt and inequality, I would say that the truth is within the middle. Even if the USA is heading towards another meltdown that will seriously damage the social fabric of the society, it is still the nation where a half black/white man, with roots from Kenya and Indonesia and with a muslim name could get elected and have a nice nap in the White-House. Same story does not easily happen in other parts of the world. But one thing is un-deniable: The middle-class (mostly white) is today vanishing in the USA. What happens next is big qustion but one thing is for sure, the whites in America have seen how vulnerable they are. Enjoy the below linked documentary.
  13. We have a long way to go, what a honest based article. It's good that the diaspora is going to Somalia but as the article said taxi-firms and dry-cleaners -buisness created by the diaspora for the diaspora is not benefical to anyone. With no tax and electricity what can you do?
  14. <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> l. Khadafi, the expectations of our generation is law. Although the military government has done a lot in terms of education, military strength , culture and social issue, that era could be probably considered the age of innocence. People gave the ruling class every support they demanded, during peace and war. In early and middle seventies progress was heavy and quick, but do not forget the civilian government of the sixties put down the foundations of the most of government initiatives. THe Kacaan had a lot of good will from the people. As soon as they took over there was euphoria and support for a change. They rode that support long enough to achieve some meaningful gains, but eventually, they not only abused the trust, but also , destroyed the system from within. By early 1982, greed, corruption, nepotism and others were gaining momentum. I remember in 1983 when I went to Halane training school, there wasn't any organizational structure in the school to train and teach those high school graduates. There wasn't even a military uniform to fit our sizes. We were told to go inside a room full of old uniforms wore by former cadets. We went inside and sifted through few pants until you find one that fits you. An organized state would have atleast made a uniform for it's cadets. Unqualified people were populating government ministries. The Somali shilling was declining , inflation was rampant. From 1981- 1988, Somalia received $2.billion dollars of debt and aid from the outside world. Most of that money went down the drain. Having said that the biggest difference between today's generation and the one between 1960- 1980, was, the expectation was greeter. While there were poverty and meagre resources, they grew up like first class citizen of a nation rising. They were self confident with their culture and way of life. They didn't fear no one, including their neighbors, in fact Somalis of that era were feared by their neighbors. They were sending officers to Africa to train liberation movements. Few years ago I was talking to a co-worker who was from Zimbabwe. He probably wasn't familiar with Somalis and their background. As we chatted, one day, he came to me and said, " Are you guys in some kind of exile like us which kept kept you guys from going back home, or how long this war is going on?. Well It was difficult to explain that we went through the overthrow the dictatorship, the collapse of the state, the Warlords, the Maxakamad, Al-shabaab and so on. The one thing I told him was that ," we may look to him as disorganized refugees who are scattered all over the place, but, in the seventies, we were those who liberated you from the White Rhodesian colonialism of Ian Smith, I sang the famous liberation song that we even composed for their sake. http://www.heesta.com/hesogs/midab%20gumeysi%20diida%20by%20wadani1672.mp3 Ian Smith Ma muuqdeen, Rodisia ma ma maageen hadan midig la siinin Bortaqiis ma miidheen mana uu malaysteen Mozambique Angoola midiyihi qarsoonaa, Gini lagu miraayey south Africa ma mamoogin, Africay ismaqalo midam gumaysi diida. Traditionally Somalis and Africans in general do not build things. They think government means ministries and militaries and propaganda. Go figure how many hospitals , roads or water wells has Somaliland built for the last twenty years. Most of money is spent to look good and mislead. even in Somalia of seventies and eighties everything was built by others . stadio mogadishu, the national theatre, the universities some of the schools and all roads were built by others. How about the current government. THey put sophas in the palace, but didn't build one clinic or dag a water well any where. All the money will go to travels , hotels and crooks. While security and military is important, why not at least allocate few dollars for the poor. Khadaafi you right all we see is high rising buildings in Mogadishu. Probably on stolen money. Finally, the big difference was " waxaa lagu qanacsanaa dalka iyo waxa yaalla". People were told to be proud although they may have had nothing. You could have not said it better +1. It was not a golden age. I dislike nostalgism, it does not benefit anyone looking back. We should instead look forward and compare ourselves as DoctorKenney said with nations like Malaysia and Chile but sometimes we need a small dose medicine against the mass-psychosis that we are suffering from. Realism and hope is a recipe for success while denial and blatant fiction is failure. What I am saying is with all honesty is that for the 20+ years that we had Somaliland/Puntaland/Southern Somalia and the list goes on on, the newborn controversial baby Jubbaland. The basic infrastructure, the roads, the hospitals, the airports etc were all built by afweynes government. Doctorkenney was quick to point out that China and the eastern block gave us hand, yes thats true but what about those thousands of students that were sent to the bush to teach the nomads to read?. What about free general education? What about the campaigns against the desertfication of Somalia? Doctorkenney, No one is saying that it was golden age but for a nation to reach literacy rate of 80% in a few years and to introduce a new alphabet and implement it is a huge success, the foregin embassies were functioning and we were a nation among other fee the nations with functioning embassies. All of these campaigns were waged under a deep self-confident nation that had a conscious of a nation. Thousands of students were sent abroad and one of those who benefited is Ditoresa Hawa Abdi, a mother and a gyncologist. Thousands of Somali women benefited from her education. Galbeedi, I am deeply sorry, I guess you were one of those generations that were ready to serve the nation but only found chaos at the end of your maturity. DoctorKennney, How can a nation gain wealth while the basic necessities of life does not exist. No free education or general health campaign or even basic guidelines. No electricity. Let's face it. With Sierre-Leione and Uganda coming to our rescue were are the bottom of a list that we only are in. Ethiopia, a poor nation, with 80 millions mouths to feed has government with guidelines and are today building a major power plant. The political economical guidelines are their. The Capital flowing in from Somalia made it before to Nayroobi and not to Somalia. Your dreaming when your saying that "private funds" are much better then government ones? The basic guide-lines of a state economy is that efficancy is gainted when state-government built schools/docks etc are their to compete with private ones?. But your speaking as if Somalia is country that has these basic institutions that can compete with your fictional "private funds/schools". What schools are these when 80% of the somali population does not have financial means to go to school and 70% of them is suffering from malnutrition. Your equation work if a state with functioning institutions were in place, or do you expect the millionaire dollar that got rich from chark-coal dealer to open schools? Yaab! Go and buy a ticket to Somalia and see the reality. Wallahi you will be shocked. In conclusion fiction and big sophas will not change the reality on the ground. Once the Al-shabaab are finished, then what? Federalism based upon clan-states that never had borders before? We saw the pre-movie of is-qabsiga in Kismaayu and that movie has not ended.
  15. Runta iyo xaqiiqada aan isku sheegno, Godane was unknown mad extremist, his death will be anonymous as his identity was. What about Xasan Daahir Aweys? Why not try him in a military court? The legitimacy FGS depends on that. If that old shrewd man can escape justice by hiding behind his clan then so can other. The cycle continues and we are back at the day of warlordism. Celebrating the death of Godane while Hassan Dahir aweys even after in custody remains an extremist (according to anonymous sources) is a disgrace to our intellect.
  16. I said it another thread, the word does not exist in ancient islamic jurisprudence and it's currently being used by the gaalada as a way to extinguish Allah's light but they will fail as god promised. The sublime Prophet pbuh said in a famous hadith: "Their will come a group of nation, when you see their prayers you will think that your prayers are void, when they read the quran you will think that your quran is void and bad, but these people will go out from the fold of islam as a arrow goes out from its bow". Many of the early Culumada said that this hadith indicated the khariji-takfiri tendency. But Miskiinow, Why blame the kurds? Would you love former-ba'thi sunni-arabs who used mustard gas against you and named the military offensive as "anfal" after the sura anfal during the days of Saddam Husseyn. A kurd once told me in the mosque that he feels deeps sympathy for the chemical attack against the syrian arabs but he asked my that those killed by Bashar were 300-900, Saddam Husseyn wiped out the entire village of Halabja ( waa magaaladi oo ka soo jeedo sheekhi barzanjiga oo Soomaliya kitaabkiisa siirada nabiga khamiis walbo masaajidada lagu aqriyo). It was a village known for it's islamic conservatism. Women and children, everybody were killed. After the downfall of the sunni-arab elite a shadowly sunni-arab guy comes and proclaims a caliphate and himself as a caliphate and demands the ancient "oath of alllegiance" from kurds. Waa yaab. Ummada Islaamka jahwareer ayaa ku dhacay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syQshRutdSw
  17. <cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Khadafi, when I say "Islamic State", my ideal version of one was the society of Umar bin Khattab, and the Caliphate which he governed. And the subsequent governments weren't perfect (the Ummayyads, Abbasids, Ottomans) but the Muslim world went through tremendous development, while the society was strongly Islamic. You can't pretend this is a myth. This is history saaxib. I really suggest you read Will Durant's book about the Story of Civilization and he even describes how superb the Islamic State was during the Middle Ages. Erdogan knows he's dealing with an extremely secular State, and he knows that half of the country is very secular. So he's limited in his actions. He's smart because he knows if he pushes too far, it might backfire on him. But he's slowly pushing his country in a more Islamic direction, and this has been going on for over a decade. We have to be realistic here, but the establishment of an Islamic State is something that's on the minds of many Muslims. And that's not something you should run away from, but you should embrace this. Here we go again. The fancy word is back but without definition and clarification. Instead of going forward your looking back at an ideal society. Sayyadina Cumar had karamas and reached a point in God eyes that he actually made a known Karama. But he too was killed and so was god promise fulfilled. But you ducked away from my question as if realism shocks you. Your princly boy Erdogan is currently waging a war on Fethullah Gulen for being an "islamic extremist" and Turkey is in Nato and the only muslim countrey where licker/alcohol stores are open freely even in Ramadan. So who is it going to be ditoore, Khamenei/Erdogan with the licker stores or why not Mullah Omar? Notice that no african is mentioned despite that Sayyadina Cisman iyo Ruqqiya Bintu Rasoolilah was actually amongst blacks in the first hijra. If all above options does not fit you well that no-body who proclaimed himself khalifa (unknown arabs choosing an arab) Abu-Bakr baghdadi might be starter for you. He claims to have an islamic state. Try s Mirqaanka ka soo kac,
  18. <cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> What we're looking for saaxib, is EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, not EQUAL RESULTS.. Agree with you on that but tell that to the black singe mom female cleaner with 3 kids to feed and how she with 16 hours working shifts five days a week will be able to afford higher education for her children. Higher education needs capital ama DOOLAR. Equal opportunity comes when those three children have the same opportunities to higher education. I do not know why But thats not a problem for a texas oil tycoon right? The statistic of 1% owning 90% is correct and valid. You even said so, ofcourse it will be the rich who owns the stockmarket. Why should the single mom even bother to look at wallstreet when she has 0 money before her salary. A person who works 16 hours and then has 0 money when the rent and food and etc are paid do not create and innovate wealth. They only join the system become the rat in the circle. Exactly as Marx said. Your argument "oh please do not use the race-card" is flawed. It's only 100 years ago when blacks were classified as property and when they were freed structural racism stopped them from accumulating wealth. Only after the 60-70 did they gain their fully rights. 50 years is a short time for a people with 0 wealth. Jews were classified as whites. They took "american names" and then became white people sectarian people, meaning that a jew helps a fellow jew, ilbaabka ey isku furaan. Thats something we agree upon but they are not a example to used to make your argument valid. Buufiska aad Marx ka qabtid ma ogi, might it be that you have a watched to much of crazy Adnan Oktar (Mustafa kemal loving crazy turk who thinks he is somekind of a messiah) movies? Maah maah ayaa jirto, GAALKA GARTIISA SII, classes in society does exists. Thats my point nothing else. I am not talking about state collectivization ONLY that different classes do exist.
  19. <cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Khadafi, I hate Al Shabab more than you can imagine. I've said it before on this forum numerous times. And I agree that the term "Islamist" is outright silly and redundant. It doesn't really mean anything, and is a made-up term by the media and Western policymakers. But there has always been a difference of opinion in Islam. Even during the days of the Caliphate, you had differences of opinion between the earliest generations of Muslims. Scholars have engaged in dialogue with each other, as well as with Christians and Jews for centuries, and this is nothing new in our history. We've been doing this for centuries. Men such as Ahmed Godane and Mullah Omar go against the very spirit of our religion, and are autocratic Rulers who use the name of the religion for their own personal ambitions. But what we all can agree on, is that we should strive towards the establishment of an Islamic government, and to spread Islamic ideals throughout the world. Today you have groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, and within their ranks you have differences of opinion as well as differences in methodology. The least we can do is to leave our differences of opinion in our private lives. But when we engage the public, then we should strive to use Islamic principles as well as the principles of dialogue and compromise to govern the country. We even have a term for that in Islam and it's called Shura . The earliest generations of Muslims used it, as well as the subsequent Caliphs. And for hundreds of years, when we Muslims stuck to our principles, the Muslim World was at the forefront of the globe. Muslims in Somalia today should work on building their communities from the ground-up, infusing the communities with Islamic values and principles. Actions such as being a pious individual, standing against corruption, setting up charities and educating the people can go a long way. Muslims in Sudan and Nigeria and Pakistan can do the same thing, and then we can all slowly begin to create Islamic-style governments, which rule according to Islamic principles. When that happens, then we can start talking about establishing a common union between the many different Muslim nations, and by the Grace of Allah, it will eventually start coalescing into a Caliphate. This is a process which can take centuries, but we need to get the building blocks moving TODAY so that our great-grandchildren can reap the benefits of our actions today. Ditoore. I am happy to see that your far away from that murderous cult in Somalia but you still somehow need to smell the coffee of realism. In one of your thread you praise Erdogan yet you do not ask the foundation and the conditions that made him appear. Mustafa Kemal, like it or not, for those who love to romanticize and flirt with ottomans. Istanbul was captured by the british and the sultan and so called "caliph" of islam were technically puppets under the british/french/greeks. When the anatolian turks rebelled, the british forced the offical shaykhul Islam, meaning the mufti to utter a fatwa forbidding rebellion and the caliph himself said to his subjects not to take arms against the british/greeks/armenians. Mustafa Kemal and his assembly refused and with blood they became the only non-colonized Muslim nation. (Saudi-Arabia was allready a british puppet state). Without that war, those adaanka in Istanbul could today have been church bells. Mustafa Kemal was an extremist and I condemn his non-islamic actions but who can blame him for introducing the latin alphabet?. When he was a young corporal he saw the deceit of the arabs and that probably gave him cuqdad. 80 years of modernist thought and thinking made Turkey today what it is. A nation-state that functions. Shaheed.Sheekh Ramadan Saciid Bouti, a well known Islamic scholar, who was ironically blown up by fellow "muslims" while he was giving quranic tafsir in the famous ummayad mosque in damascus famously said that the muslim brotherhood was one of the dangerous "modernists" we had in our midst. Orthdox Islam is about worshipping God and preparing for the afterlife and making islam a unifying factor in society not a dividing one. The muslim-brotherhood with all it's fancy words are a bunch of people with radical different agenda but who all use religion as to gain power. You talk about islamic style governments yet the question remains un-answered. What do you mean by that? It's fancy word but you never answer despite that I have asked you several times in different threads. Do you mean Khomenis style of islamic government? Clergymen assigned by Allah or do you mean Mullah Omars pashtun-infused style of islamic government that forces people to grow beard? or do you mean Pakistan? The offical name of pakistan is actually "Islamic republic" or do you mean North Sudan, or why not Saudi-Arabia? Are all of these options to extreme for you? Do you want Erdogans way of system? You praised him, but Turkey is today the only muslim country where licker/alcohol stores are open in Ramadan! Hey even Khomenis Iran are better then him on this. You might up drinking methanol from an illegal black street-vendor and getting blind but no alcohol store is allowed to be open. Sayyadina Muhammad scw was sent to us a mercy and to teach us how to prepare us for the after-life not to abuse Islam all in the name of power. I 'am pretty sure that all above mentioned options will not suite you but clarify more instead of using a brushing word as islamic government? The basic fiq-manuals of the shafi'ite madhab does not even mention the word "islamic state". It does not exist and was created by modernists. If you want to be a good muslim be so by good virtue, establish strong spiritual ties with Allah, help the poor, make the haj and fast. Thats all it is to it.
  20. <cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Khadafi, Marx and his ideas have LONG AGO been discredited saaxib. Marx's ideas have been responsible for nothing but stagnation, anemic growth, famines and a whole host of other disasters. Just read about what happened in Ukraine in 1932, when millions of Ukrainians starved to death because of the collectivization of agriculture. ? Doctor, I do not know if you have studied sociology or taken a course in political science but Marx's critique on capitalism and his way of identifying the classes in society is today more relevant than ever. The financial meltdown and the global chaos that non-bounded capitalism was one of the signs that the critique is valid. Society and it's division in classes is a must-be for political pundits and a scentific fact. Rich and POOR exists but the established relationship between them are for the sociologists to study. As for communism and dialectical philosophy your completely right, much it of mumbo jumbo and worthless (to me as a muslim) Some would argue that stalin-made famine was not the result of democratic socialists, it was the result of forced labour and stalinism. But that's the play game. Doctor, I guess that you live in the USA, the land of the so called "opportunities" where a nobody and fulfill his dreams and be rich. Those days are gone by the way but it's hard for you to understand the huge difference between democratic socialism and communism. Sweden and the Scandinavian model is far from Stalin's Russia with it's horrific human right's abuses. But for you to name a dictator man-made famine in Ukraine and dismiss the existence of the class struggle as a scientific field is a blunder to sociologists. It's a extreme example you chose, and if you want to play that game to make your point let's take the famine of 1977-79 in Somalia. During those days of pan-somalism in Siyaad Barre thousands of nomads who had never eaten a fish were AIRLIFTED to Baraawe and were forced to become fishermen. Some succeeded and are still today in Baraawe. I would not say that famine was man made but the state could have done more, should I say then because of that famine the whole notion of pan-somalism, the idea that somalis should have a state is flawed? ofcourse not. Cayaarta nagaa daa saaxibow! Take a deep look on the Somalis in Minnesota. Class/race are bound to each other,ask yourself why Somalis chose to live in the state of Minnesota and not in a warm state that resembles the weather of Africa? Generous "canadian like" benefits are attractive to poor somalis. Marx's said that racism is a result of the class struggle. 1% of US population owns 90% of the us WEALTH. Do you think that these white capitalists wants blacks to share their wealth? Of course not. Structural racism is created to keep them working class and nothing less. Why do you think that higher education is equal to having money in the US? Can a single mom with a 16 hours work-shift and with 3 children to feed, can she afford to send all of her children to university? Yaab, a somali black man denying the existence of classes while his own people are the bottom it.
  21. It's a fancy word "islamic revolutionism" but hijacking a religion peace that answers mans deepest existential questions is unfair. The word "islamist" does not exist in the literature of Islamic jurisprudence. It is a modern world created by modernists who wants to gain power by using religion Islam becouse of it's unifying factor. I have said my arguments before, but who can reject a politican who says that he has credentials from Allah to rule you? DoctorKenney, your a thoughtfull man. Why jump on a bandwagon that you can not define? To make it easier for the readers let them ask themselves "what is an islamist". Is it the islamism of Turkeys Erdogan with suit and tie, or is it the persian clergy-rule Khomenism from Iran or is it pashtun-rooted Mullah Omars taliban? Or is it Boko-Haram of Nigeriga the kidnappers of girls in the name of Allah? Let be honest, God says in the quran "Inallah la yastaxii minal xaq" (indeed god does not shy away from saying the truth". One of the name of Allah is -al-Haq (The Truth). Ah! Lets not forget our little saviour and right to kill licence by god Abdi-Godane Imagine this: What would happen if we assembled all of these people who use "the term "islamist" in one room. Khomeni would be killed for his shii'i thoughts, Mullah Omar would ex-communicate Erdogan and Mursi. Abdi-Godane and Mullah omar would not agree with each other. Godane is salafi-wahabi while Mullah Omar is from the maturidi thoughts. What about the Nigerians? The Egyptian Mursi and Godane would probably chuckle within themselves and say "these blacks do they think they can rule us". Let's stop using the term "Islamist". The sublime Prophet (scw) did not use this term. He came with mercy and a answer to mans deepest spiritual questions. A revolution is defined as: "a change of regime, then a complete ideology change that ultimately changes the societies culture. A regime change that we can somehow define as a revolution is by my definition Iran. In 1979, a persian cleric said in his manifesto that he and his clergy (those with him, not against him like Ayatullah Burujedi) had the supreme right to rule the people and that right came from God. What happened? Please do correct me if I am wrong but the largest people leaving Islam today are Iranians. Why? Before the Islamic revolution the persian stuents were religous and one of those people who always established mosques or Islamic associations. I had the privilege to speak to a Persian friend of mine who remained a muslim and asked him. Why are your people like this?. He answered in a very thoughtful way: XXXX what will happen if a dictatorship that in-prions people and does horrible crimes does this in the name of Islam? The ignorant one will blame Islam and will identify Islam with the regime. He also said, we are diffirent, we in Iran have a clergy type system (meaning that the clergy takes 25 % yearly of the shi'i persian. He said you somalis do not have this. DoctorKenney, If Abdi-Godane exectuted the American convert, who outwardly (zahiri) left all he knew and went to Somalia to fight with al-Shabaab, do you not think that he will not execute you? We have seen this before, in 1200 century chaos raged in the muslim world. As God promised, he sent as a mujadid (renewer). Abu Hamid al Ghazali, simply known by somali clergy "Shaykul Akbar" (Shiikhi weynaa). He refuted the Hellenistic philosophy and successfully made Sufism into orthodox Islam. The ex-communications stopped and a period of pan-islama existed. With new technology comes new questions. Devious sects emerge all claiming to be the savior of the world. One man surrounded by unknown people has the audacity to claim the title "caliph of islam" as if it would change the reality. Lets stop using fancy words and stick to realism. All that Allah wants from you is prayer and fasting and piousness, helping the poor and fighting for the truth. While muslims today are dying from thirst in Somalia, some somali youngsters are dying for an unknown arab man claiming to be caliph while they could have dug up a ceel and saved the lives of thousands! Fancy word is it not? "ISLAMIST" ? But when you ask what do you mean everyone remains silent. No one knows but everyone barks it. Islam is far away from evil people. It's a religion of peace and mercy. A unifying factor in society rather then what al shabaab wants it to become, a dividing factor (sufis fighting itixaadis). Yaaab!
  22. Weather we like it or not Marx's critique on capitalism and the class-struggle, it's still relevant. His dialectical philosophy is mumbo jumbo but khayr a recent study conducted in Sweden showed that the average year of a man sinks with 10 years if you travel from the posh all-white all-rich areas to the poorer areas. Your living in the USA, a big nation but the travel I am speaking about is by train 20 minutes. All it takes to live 10 more years is to live in a area 4 km away or 15-20 minutes bus or train. Your article somehow proved it. class&race are connected by the values set by society. In America those values are somehow enshrined. It's only 100 years ago the blacks were slaves with no capital and the whites had all the capital and I do not think that one will share his wealth by "philanthropy". Whats more horrible is that the white man we knew (male, white in his 40) are no longer middle class, 1% of Americas population owns 90% of the countreys wealth. The system of mass deceit changed when we saw the financial collapse of Wallstreet but what surprised is that we did not see the mass rise social-liberalism and unionship. Wacko tea-party supported by the established upper-class with a hidden "rascist" overtone took to the streets. Obama, when he realized that his own people were those most suffering from the mass-decist decided to do something in his last 4 years. Obama-care was bitterly fought and will probably be slashed into something un-recognizable after his presidency. Same thing is happening in Europe. Ghettos long abandoned in the early 1990 middle class whites with no education is today being rent out to over-worked poor sick same whites, After living in the same house for more then 14 years I know see that my lebanese neighbors have moved out and I dearly hoped for a somali family (not a immigrant flight 13 somali refugees). Xaasid ma ahi, laakin newly arrived somalis will give migraine. After the salams comes the door knocking in the night and then a court full request for translation of a letter from the government. I simply do not have the time and the energy. So I hoped for a established somali family, maybe one of the guys whom I have known since the early 90-ties. I instead saw young white couple moving in. Waa yaabay wallaahi! The difference in the structural discrimination in the USA and Europe is massive, no one cares what your last name is in the USA. You probably know it's a immigrant nation, no one can claim it. But things are different here. I hope that nomad-swedes like Johnny and "Hilowle maandhow" responds to my critique. If you apply for a house and the renter sees your last name "mohamed" the apply is automatically rejected by the capitalist (owner) and given to a swede. This has led to a enormous segregation. Even the so called socialists politicians with their crocodile tears do not live in the ghettos. Hey! Even I would move if I got the slightest opportunity. Coming back to the story, after the usal "hi" for months I chatted with young beautiful blonde neighbor. Her husband or my wife would not have approved of my staring but I got what I wanted. She told me that they had been deeply hit by the financial crisis. Her husband got sacked and they could not afford to live in the villa. They sold it (probably not with profit). I slowly excused my self and gave her some shushumow and sambusa that my wife made (This was in Ramadan) as a neighborly gesture. Gaaal maxaa ka sugeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol! I did not even get some food back as gesture!. But one thing made me happy, 2014 in september this month is election times. When I came home after a long day I saw something odd hanging on their door. "INGEN SD REKLAM TACK". They had hung up a little note saying that they did not want commercial from the far right racist swedish party "the swedish-democrats". I told my wife lat in the night "gaaladi cuntadi bakhiilay waaba dad fiicanc". My pious beloved wife told me can you quit calling them "gaaaladi", sida oday gaboobay aa u hadaashaa ee iga aamus, they are our neighbors and gaal-or not they have rights upon us". I agreed but was so curious to know their leanings. One day while taking my child from the daycare we entered the Swedish taboo subject. Red lines in this country is RELIGION,POLITICS AND YOUR WEALTH" blue lines to talk about is the weather. I diplomatically told her husband that I appreciated the solidarity note rejecting racism and as if racists wants my vote but for the sake of talking I told him if he had a extra nore. He smiled and said sure I do gave me one. He quietly told that the decade of the right in power has slowly shredded the country into pieces and that the Swedish-model of democratic-socialism and socialist-liberalism was threatened. He then told me "plz tell the Somali community to vote for my wife". I have a appetite for discussion. I went home and said to my wife "war gaaladi waa shuuciyaal" lol. She smiled and answered plz can you stop calling them gaaladi. They womans name is XXXX. In conclusion, khayr. That man smiling and shedding his crocodile tears would move out if he had the slightest opportunity to do so. Hey! I as a black muslim man, in the bottom of the never ending class-struggle with it's structural discrimination would move out. Gaalkaani intoo jooga marka!
  23. "> This statement is based upon hateews and a call upon Somalis to engage in vicious tribal wars that we have seen before. It's shameful to see a elderly man, a man who claims to represent a clan to make these hateful statements. All Somali community organisations in the diaspora and within Somalia should stand up to this and condemn this utterly hateful incitement to clan wars. I do not want to believe that Diriye represents any community based upon his hateful comments, it's time that his community comes out in in full force and exposes him! The FGS has given his people a homeland in his ancestral land. Why is he threatening the ehoobley-people as if the 20 years of occupation and illegal beero-xoog justifies his vendetta. The FGS should arrest these nabad-diid people. Many peoople are not aware of that heavy fighting is occurring in Qoryoolay and the surrounding areas. The water-carrier clan who fought against the Italians are finally fed up with these people. The inhabitants of Marka and Baraawe are known, it's a shame that he uses one of the banadiri clans in Xamarwayne as a example of the horrific crimes he has inflicted upon them in order to scare the alliance between the water-carrier clans and other indigenous clans living in Marka.
  24. Ditoore Kennedy, Your a smart man who sees wisdom in every argument, meaning that your reply posts are not for tit-and tat just for the case of "winning" and argument in a anonymous forum. While your argument sounds reasonable your proposal in tantamount to defeat and a clear message to the racist Zionist movement that it has fulfilled it is message. I love to make complex issues to clear frank easy examples. Imagine Doctor Kennedy that you as Somali, living happily in your nation. European/Russian/Arab jews with solid support driving you out from your homeland. When you are astonished and humiliated you ask them why are you doing this? They answer God told me 3000 years ago that this land was mine. Well if God have them that countrey indeed my God gave Somalia to me. You see how foolish and un-reasonable religous extemists are. A more relevant example is South Africa, the whites before the fall of Apart-Heid proposed to the South Africas Nelson mandela to partion South Africa into African bantunistan lands/white lands. He said bravely why should my land be divided when it was you who came late by the boat. Their is also a religious dimension to the issue, our sayyid, the noble and mercyfull prophet made his journey miraculously from mecka to jerusalem (israa). He sprituality meant all the messenger and then saw the divine (micraaj) the hidden (ghayb) meaning what we are not able to see with our materialistic measurements, That land is holy and must be taken into if future negations happen. The third most holiest site after Medina and Mecka is Al-Aqsa mosque. Your proposal is defeat and un-acceptable. Your proposal is today boomed by the zionists saying that palestinians are arabs, why can not they live among the other 300 million arabs. The only solution to the palestine/Israel conflict is that Israel abandons it's racist-apartheid ideology. One man, one vote, regardless of creed or sex or ethnicity. A israel for all but the zionists know that palestinians are demographically more and will not accept that solution. But believe, we will once see the transformation of Israel into a democratic jewish/arab state. But no defeat. No Sinai or Jordan. Resistance to ockupation and racism is the only solution. Plenty of leftist Israelis and lefist Palestinians see this solution. Only those religous extremists, weather they are from AL-qaeda or extemists jews are a dangeour to peace.
  25. Tallaabo, As I said, I am not intrested in tat for tat. Weather Somaali-land or hebeloo Land thats for a thing for the politcal analysts, but you raised some important issues. 1-The Kacaan government, if I am not mistaken, Silaanyo was a minister under did it. That government engagd in huge infrastructural projects, and they did this of course with the aid/technical support from the Warsaw-pact. That was the geo-political fact that no one can deny. The current geo-political situation is that USA/West is firmly behind the huge mega-dam construction in Ethiopia. The building is of course is not done by illiterate oromo-farmers but technicians from the west/China. Tallaabo, try to think out of the box. But the important question that I raised was since these 22 or something years of civil wars Have you seen a solid somali government/somaliland/puntland, hebelooland undergoing those developments and please do not take as a example of dirt road opening by now-body minister. I was even chocked to see government minister attending the opening a luxurious mall as if it is "true development" Who will buy those luxurious items? I might be mistaken, correct please, I am not expect in Somalilands energy consumption but I do belive that they as all somalis use expensive generators. Not a singe power-station exists. The truth is, weather it is Silaanyo, or Qoslaayo, or Abdi-Wali, They attend a monthly meeting hosted by tigray puppet wolde-mariam. I love to infuse personal stories and experiences into my posts, A friend of mine, a staunch mudug style man (il-jeex) went to mudug. I as a Banaadiri love the guy, we have huge cultural gap between us and that makes our friendship more fun. He visited mudug close to the border areas of Ethiopia with help of a local NGO-group. He came back from Africa two days ago and I picked him up from the airport and we chatted. He told me frankly that he was disgusted by what he saw. He said: "when I as 12 year old boy and grew up in those areas, we would cross the border, their were no "ethiopian"influence. He said 30 years later when I returned to the same area an incident happened. By ignorance an Iljeex- was killed Afweynes people living on the other side of the brorder. The Iljeec contacted Ethiopian authorities in Guri-ceel and some twelve men, innocent or not were rounded up. I dont feel pity for them, But my friend was utterly disguisted In his words he said: "What happend, how can ethiopians (mainly somali paid troops with a tigayran offical) have such an enormous influence in a Somali town. I jokingly said, saaxib, what did you expect when your own president is protected by African troops. 2. Talaabo, once again, no tit-for-that arguement, saaxibkaay, see and ponder about what you wrote. The burst of defending your clan-enclave comes to existence when you make this contradictory statement: Although many school age children do not yet have the right to free education in Somaliland , all the public primary schools are free. A great man once said: If you want to solve a problem, you need to see the problem. 22 years has gone, Instead of criticizing your own leaders, Somaliland/Puntland/Somalia or what ever you immediately puff and buff with clan bursts when I only highlighted the condition of the poor. Weather they are in Hargeysaa or in Mogadishu.! Talaabo while your comfortably sitting in Europe go and tell the shoe-shiner boy in Hargeysaa why he can not afford free education in his town but that he could have done so under the Kacaan government. I am not nostalgic for a brutal military regime that at the end drove us to this viscous civil war but facts always withers downs fiction. Have lost people who think out of the box?