What a load of garbage!! Anyone who believes such a nonsense must have his head examined by a competent psychiatrist.

What next? IGAD laying down the plan on how the local government of Mogadisho is run?

When Silaanyo was elected, I thought Somaliland was in a safe pair of hands given his political background and experience. And although his government did a lot of things right in the administrative side of things, they failed miserably regarding the politics of the country and improving the political system. With tribal animosity and rage rearing its ugly head in Hargeisa, Saylac, Berbera, and now Burco, the tribal alliances which was for so long adorned with "democratic" gowns is quickly unravelling. I don't think people will take up arms and restart the civil war, but from the beginning it was clear the foundation of the political system in Somaliland was build on a shifting sand. Sad to see Somaliland now in such a fragile state.

Alpha Blondy;902146 wrote: i agree! that's why i use the term 'the troubles' to sum up the years between 1977 to 1991/1993 and the disintegration of Somali structures. its all the same and we all had a role to play in the various civil wars. NO particular group suffered more or less than the other. what's the way forward Tal? do you think truth and reconciliation conferences are the way? Truth and reconciliation conferences will not work for most Somalis. Such conferences will only produce more of the same tribal politics, over simpified formulas, and worthless marfish politicians. Personally, I am of the opinion that given Somaliland which until recently was the best hope in the Somali speaking World, has descended into tribal fiasco, the Somali people are totally incapable of giving up tribalism and adopting meaningful democracy. So I came to the conclusion that the only way forward for the Somali people is: 1.To strip the right to be in government from all the major clans, meaning all the 4 clans will have no say in the country's affairs and only the 0.5 will rule. 2. Dismantle all the post 1991 political entities and bring back the previous 18 states of the former republic. These 18 states will become federal states. 3. Each federal state will have within it autonomous districts with its own elected government, more like the councils in the UK. And each federal state will have an elected governor and parliament. 4. All the citizens and residents of the country will be given a biometric ID card which will also be used for voting, banking, and accessing social security. Each person should be able to vote only in the state and district of his/her residence and only once. If they move address they will have to register again to vote in their new location but will loose the right to vote in their previous location of residence. This means each person will only vote once wherever in the country they are. 5. Each federal state will elect a number of representatives according to their population (using the database of the biometric ID system) for a federal parliament in Mogadishu which will have legislative powers. 5. The smallest minority clans in the country (the 0.5 in the absurd formula) will be allowed to elect all the members of the Senate for the federal government. The senate will have the power to scrutinise all the legislation coming from the lower house. 6. The senate made only of members of our minority clans will appoint a lifetime constitutional king or queen from among their people. The monarch will then appoint his/her majesty’s government made of a premier and ministers on a five year term basis. All members of the government will be from the minority clans and all must be highly educated and capable. This way Alpha, there will be no power struggle between the troublesome four big tribes and with tribal politics out of the way, Somalis can get on with their lives and compete with the wider world not only with each other.

Gacmo furan halagu soo dhaweeyo raggaa.

Alpha Blondy;902231 wrote: ^ i'm sorry but i wouldn't exchange the life experiences i had in england to be stuck in some IMF-indebted 'Mozambique' of Africa. you see the opportunities and experiences i had in the UK give me the upper hand over the local somalilanders. i have NO VALUE without brandishing my passport every 56 minutes in their faces like a wasteman and speaking 5 words of english for every 2.75 words of somali - eg: waar dadkan are bloody lazy and lack basic humanity ma istiri? , i cease to exist and have NO VALUE at all. the thought of turning out to be some of the individuals i've see in somaliland, shocks the different sections of my mental capacities... ruunti. a donkey cart biyoleh, a late shift taxi driver whose mind has been addled by khat addiction, a corrupt low ranking government official, a tourist operator whose never set foot outside the country but who speaks private-tuition paid for American-English, a cheesy internationalist off-shore oil executive whose been as far as Dubai. NO THANKS! WAR IS GOOD! GREED IS GOOD! POWER FOR THE 1% ONLY!

nuune;902416 wrote: According to Western istatistikis, there is 77 death in every 1000 born, good news for aid workers as they cash more. Somalia proper population is now heading towards 19.7 million, if we add NFD to that it will be 28.3 million, add to Somali Galbeed, and we have 32.2 million, now add to Djibouti and total we have 48 million Somaliweyn, don't forget to add Somalis in the diaspora, that makes it 57.3 million in total of all Somalis from all corners of the world. Source 57.3 million!! Hallelujah.

Apophis;902123 wrote: Brown and green sxb Admin Police What are they doing?? They look ridiculous!!

OdeyJacfar;901887 wrote: This is my theory..if Somalia remained it wouldve went through political exchanges. In 1990 Somalia's literacy rate was around 30%. There were just handful universities and it wouldve only have grown just few more universities. It wouldve had command economy. It wouldv had stunted economical growth. We wouldve had lack of exposure to the world bc the Somali passport wouldve been limited. What has the civil war brought us. We got atleast 200k respected college's education. With another 1.1 million literate folks in the diapora. Even Islaamaha can read atleast and understand langues like English, Swedish, Dutch, Norwegian and etc. We got highly educated young people who are ready to inject new economical ideas. We got the next fb inventor. We got the next instagram inventor. We can travel througout the world to bring new products to the country. We also gona have economist, political scientists, entertainers, leaders, and etc. Therefore...I ask that u compare and contrast.. Was the civil war a blessing in disguise? You should be more specific with your question. The former Somali Republic went through a number of significant civil wars on different occasions in its short political history. To a varying degree each one of them had consequences not just for the stability of the military government in power but also for the integrity of the country. So in order to get more meaningful discussion from SOLers, point out which civil war you think should not have happened.

Apophis;901979 wrote: Me and you buddy I would have had a cushty 9am to 2pm government job and a massive house by the beach .:cool: A good criteria to hunt you down if we had a civilised peasant (or a nomad in our case) led revolution against tyranny like those in France, Russia, and America.

It is not the tribes that are the problem, its the Somalis not being able to see the world beyond their tribal walls.

OdeyJacfar;901887 wrote: This is my theory..if Somalia remained it wouldve went through political exchanges. In 1990 Somalia's literacy rate was around 30%. There were just handful universities and it wouldve only have grown just few more universities. It wouldve had command economy. It wouldv had stunted economical growth. We wouldve had lack of exposure to the world bc the Somali passport wouldve been limited. What has the civil war brought us. We got atleast 200k respected college's education. With another 1.1 million literate folks in the diapora. Even Islaamaha can read atleast and understand langues like English, Swedish, Dutch, Norwegian and etc. We got highly educated young people who are ready to inject new economical ideas. We got the next fb inventor. We got the next instagram inventor. We can travel througout the world to bring new products to the country. We also gona have economist, political scientists, entertainers, leaders, and etc. Therefore...I ask that u compare and contrast.. Was the civil war a blessing in disguise? You should ask that question those who lost everything in the conflict and the subsequent anarchy, or those millions of children facing a bleak future.

Typical Somalis. Our people know only how to take the opposite poles.

Apophis;901540 wrote: You're looking too deep into a simple matter. For a Somali, clan is king, even when that king's foot is firmly on their necks. Do not over analyse it. You are a wise man Apophis. Shame you are a disbeliever.

Alpha Blondy;901931 wrote: as i bid an emotional farewell goodbye, to my beloved Berbera, i feel a slight sense of the 'anti-climax' damping my spirits. it was an epic journey to my homeland, the homeland of my ancestors and the home of our future children - however you look at it, it'll always be our hinterland and NOTHING will change that fact. the city is going through a demographic transition of sorts and the tide is turning but i suppose this is to be welcomed. the people of Berbera must wake up and realise an aim, an aim that will catapult them to progress and a shared collective identity. instead of seeing each other as enemies, the people of Berbera MUST build enough fortitude to realise a future of shared interest, of shared brotherhood, of shared collective destiny. anything is better than this quagmire we find ourselves these days. we must as reer Berbera look at the bigger pictures and see things for what they are. Berbera City has single-handedly held the mantle of the country together, all these years. its delicate thread that weaves together the fabric of Somaliland. its has sacrificed beyond what was expected and through these acts of sacrifices has forgotten to take care of itself - and like the single mother living on benefits in a run down council estate with 5 kids, Berbera's husbandry of paternal care has seen its children grow but willfully taking different paths. there is only so much we could do to restore unity again and more must done by others to relieve Berbera of this burden. its future may look bleak at times but you and i both know, that through adversity comes relieve, and in times of relieve miracles are produced. go forth Berbera, go forth Berbera, go forth our Berbera. I thought you went to Berbera for some fox hunting and NOT to get philosophical about the future:confused:

They have no manners. They ruined a couple's big day.

Carafaat;901005 wrote: Zack, as you are aware Prof Samater and Galeyr were the last high level opponents originating from Somaliland who oppossed Somaliland. Their supports only proves that Somaliland is here to stay, irrelevent of Siyadist wet dreams of Somaliland dissapearing. Waar adigu miyaad na ictiraaftay? Haddii adiguba aad na aqoonsatay waa guul Somaliland ay gaadhay. One nay sayer at a time is the policy.

Qaranki;901312 wrote: I'm currently waiting on a package from DHL and was on their website, I decided to go on the world map they have on the countries they serve when to my surprise I saw, well take a look for yourselves - http://www.dhl.com/worldmap/intro.html#/SOL/performance Even the Lonely Planet tourist guide devoted several pages to Somaliland's wonders and hidden treasures on its latest Africa edition while encouraging potential tourists to make the visit. There is just a short warning on Somalia section though.

Why can't Somalilanders just leave AbaarsoTech and its staff alone? The president must interfere to stop the meddling and negative campaigns and allow these good teachers and volunteers to get on with their job.

Alpha Blondy;901243 wrote: what peace? waar, the whole of 'somali-land' has gone to the dogs, as it were. these local elections have clearly shown we're not ready for democracy. first in hargeisa and now berbera....i've also heard there were skirmishes in erigabo? i don't have the entire facts of the situation. what's more people are calling me from hargeisa and demanding the latest intel. its calmer now but i haven't left the hotel room since going for lunch. i walked to xeeb soor in the boiling sun LOOOOOOOOOL. If the whole of Somaliland has gone to the dogs, then everyone including your cry-baby tribesmen are responsible. It is foolish to simply blame the president's tribe for the failings and greed of everyone. When all of Somaliland's competing tribal parties and useless marfish politicians agreed to get rid of the national electoral register and replace it with a fraud prone ink, they intended to cheat the system. So when the cheating business did not work for some as was expected, crying foul and instigating public disorder is what the power hungry immoral candidates resorted to.

Alpha, your tribe must be slapped with an ASPO (Anti-Social Behavioural Order) by the Supreme Court and your fellow hooligan monkeys banned from congregating in groups to intimidate the law abiding citizens of the town and disturb the peace.

^ One influencial international institution at a time. AlJazeera too recognises Somaliland. Look at their weather map.

Professor Samatar should not waste his precious time in Mogadisho. He could do so much more in Hargeisa.

Apophis;900525 wrote: Are you saying he's a violent psychopath? Why insult the man like that?!? I think your grasp of the Somali language is limited so here is a translation of what I said: "the man who excorcizes possesed people".

I did not know he was involved with the making of our script!!