^^ The whole country should oppose and protest against any interference by the government in the democratic process. If the president undermines the will of the people in Saylac today, tomorrow, Hargeisa, Berbera, Burco, and Ceerigaabo will follow and Somaliland's democracy will be effectively dead. The president should better concentrate on how to make the system work well for everyone.

Xaaji Xunjuf;903584 wrote: ^^ Thats not a problem in 1993 they tried troubles in Seylac president Cigaal silenced them , in 1999 the relations between Somaliland and Djibouti were so bad that they almost went to war. But cigaal had balls he could care less about what any one thinks of his Somaliland., Ismaciil cumar geele firing his ministers and ambassadors from the non jesus clan is just absurd. The government of Somaliland should accept democracy the people of Seylac elected a mayor and deputy mayor and that's fine. It is unacceptable for the government to interfere and abstract the democratic process. The majority won in this election and their rights should be respected. President Silaanyo should tell the Djibouti tyrant not to interfere in our internal affairs.

With the end of hostilities in Somalia, the Somalis will return to their homeland, the UN will leave Nairobi, the numerous relocated embassies will re-relocate to Mogadishu, the aid agencies will follow, the dollar will say its goodbyes and leave, and the Kikuyu will be left scratching his head and wondering whether his rather short golden age is about to come to an abrupt end.

^^ I did not say you lack values as everyone has values of some sort. But the truth is, without the Islamic faith a lot of the values you hold however sophisticated become irrelevant in the Somali perspective.

Mr ambassador;903572 wrote: The djibouti clan needs someone to slap the b!tch out of them,, greedy ba$tards! how dare they make all this trouble and cry to Silaanyo when they lost? can they not handle losing? Borame clan won 10 out of 17 seats in Saylac which makes them the righteous ones for Mayor and deputy mayor positions. for 21 years the djibouti clan was mayor of Saylac and governonr of Salel no one said nothing to them, today when they lost they b!tch about it !! Borama clan got more votes in Both Lughaya and Saylac so they have the right to take everything. The problem is djibouti clan got the back up of Ismacii Cumar geele who told Silaanyo to give his clan Saylac or else he will be sorry.. IOG has huge influence in SL remember last year when he called the Somaliland cause a case of "putting the cart before the horse" ? Somalilanders couldn't say anything about it. there are also important ministers in djibouti from the Hargaysa clan so if IOG dont get Saylac he will fire those ministers. on the other hand if Silanyo attempts to take Saylac from Borama clan the ppl of Awdal will not allow that to happen and those demonstrations are only the start. If that was the only consequence of defying the Djibouti dictator and I wish it was, Silaayo would gladly show him the middle finger. But the biggest challenge for the government of Somaliland is not to alienate the Jesus clan in Somaliland and turn them into rebels. We don’t want another Khaatumo in the west of our country.

sahal;903543 wrote: when their kinsman was on the power they never complained let alone demonstaration and when he lost FOREVER they started Awdal state, demonstrations, complaints, bacaaaaaaaaaaac iyo waa nala xoogayaa Shiiit Xukuumaddu waa inay gacan bir ah ku qabataa dadka xasaradda wada ama hargeysa ha joogaan ama boorama ama Laascaanood The government of Somaliland is not a Stalinist regime. It is a government elected by the people and for the people and is guided by the constitution, at least in theory.

People will rebuild their homes and businesses if they find peace and tranquillity.

Apophis;903230 wrote: I've always returned their plastic smiles with my own plastic smiles. ;) I don't mine the plastic smiles of the Emirates crew. The Arabs have an eye for beauties.

What has Hadraawi got to do with the useless tribal politics going on in Somaliland. I am damn sure he does not give a rat’s @ss about Kulmiye or even the clan he hails from. Apparently I was right to compare Somali tribalism with football hooliganism. Both are just raw emotions with no rationale behind it.

Dhagax-Tuur;902818 wrote: There has to be a red line, culturally, where if crossed, penalties are handed out, of course, through court of law and judicial process. I don't mean to sound easily offended, but the vulgarity of the tale left me disgusted, Wallee. What next, the 'Verses from the Quran to read when imitating dogs'? Times like these, my soul reluctantly longs for the rule of YOU-KNOW-WHO! I don't mean to take a higher moral ground, and I know this sort of thing does occur, after all we are all human, but we are not and we DONT want to be (through culture and deen) the sort of society that publishes and distributes these sort of stories. That is my view. We don't need Al Shabaab. But definately we need Somaliwayne's version of Jeremy Kyle.

Apophis;903228 wrote: Write under the name of Apophis and I'll take the flak and the credits and we'll share any profits 60% (to me) 40% (to you), lets do this thing Well you have nothing to lose. Diintii dhamayd ayabaad meel iska dhigtay.

Abtigiis;903215 wrote: looooooooool. Several days I have to abandon writing stories because a curious daughter who now learned how to read just likes to sit next to me and starts to read each line I type. Few minutes ago, I have to abondon a story because here she was again...And she gets when I switch to another page. ..Aabo, this is not what you were writing when I came. ...It was saying "why she wondered ..." Can I read that one kulahaa? No, aabo, that one is for the office, I say embaraased. :D I see your daughter inherited the intelligence gene from you. Encourage her to read more by giving her some interesting child literature every fortnight or so. Give her the kick start to become Somaliwayne's next J K Rowling. I sincerely hope you consider professional writing at least to enlighten the Somalis about the issues they rather not talk about.

^ Yeah, the same folks who would have waved the SL flag are now waving the blue flag for her. Do the average Somalis actually have any political convictions beyond the blind support of their clan?

Wadani;902962 wrote: SNM, SSDF and USC have ruined my life and the life of every single Somali on the face of this earth. We are a people best described by the title of Franz Fanon's book 'The Wretched of the Earth'. The storming of Villa Somalia in 1991 by the USC hordes was equivalent to the destruction of the temple in jerusalem by the Romans in 70 A.D; both events led an indigenous people to scatter around the far reaches of the earth and start from scratch amongst alien and often times antagonistic cultures. But the Jews are a more sophisticated people than the somalis, and have not allowed their dispersal to lead to social and cultural disintegration, as is occuring at a dizzying rate among the Somali diaspora, and to a lesser extent back home. The Kacaan/M.O.D regime was far from perfect....but it gave us our rightful place in this God forsaken world. It gave us dignity, pride and faith in ourselves and our nation; things that r a requisite for the survival and success of any people, and unfortunately such sentiments among the Somalis have taken fatal blows. You have no idea about the history of the former Somali Republic. It was not the rebel movements who destroyed the country, it was Siyaad Barre and his tyrannical regime. The rebels were just reacting to the oppression, corruption, nepotism, and the constant appropriation of the nation's meagre resources for personal use by the ruling elite. I don’t think Somaliland and Puntland are worst off now than when they were under the tyranny. But I do despair for the suffering of our brethren in the South, Kililka, and NFD.

^^ The winner takes all:o

My vote goes to: Abtigiis Citation: Despite his Jurassic age, the insurgent is unrivalled in his positive contribution to this forum. His stories are imaginative and filled with humour although a warning sign must come with some of them to aid the easily excitable teens using public computers.

Somalia;902619 wrote: Wallahi I am lying on my stomach right now.. I like it and shall continue to do this evil. :cool: Ah, the devil must be an animal.

Abtigiis you are an amazing writer with a great sense of humour. But your writing style left me with the feeling that you are somewhat losing or have already lost conviction in your Islamic faith. Are you too joining the ranks of the growing infidel camp?

Haatu;902551 wrote: What was that famous reer waqooyi poem lamenting on Siyaad's empowerment of laangaab? I don't know much about poems but yes Northerners are the worst culprits when it comes to discrimination. At some point they were almost Pharaohnic in their treatment of our laangaab brothers. And Siyaad was right to empower the laangaab. [Laangaab: tribes with short lineages .i.e., minorities. Laandheer has the opposite meaning.(translation is for Apo)].

What a load of garbage!! Anyone who believes such a nonsense must have his head examined by a competent psychiatrist.

What next? IGAD laying down the plan on how the local government of Mogadisho is run?

When Silaanyo was elected, I thought Somaliland was in a safe pair of hands given his political background and experience. And although his government did a lot of things right in the administrative side of things, they failed miserably regarding the politics of the country and improving the political system. With tribal animosity and rage rearing its ugly head in Hargeisa, Saylac, Berbera, and now Burco, the tribal alliances which was for so long adorned with "democratic" gowns is quickly unravelling. I don't think people will take up arms and restart the civil war, but from the beginning it was clear the foundation of the political system in Somaliland was build on a shifting sand. Sad to see Somaliland now in such a fragile state.

Alpha Blondy;902146 wrote: i agree! that's why i use the term 'the troubles' to sum up the years between 1977 to 1991/1993 and the disintegration of Somali structures. its all the same and we all had a role to play in the various civil wars. NO particular group suffered more or less than the other. what's the way forward Tal? do you think truth and reconciliation conferences are the way? Truth and reconciliation conferences will not work for most Somalis. Such conferences will only produce more of the same tribal politics, over simpified formulas, and worthless marfish politicians. Personally, I am of the opinion that given Somaliland which until recently was the best hope in the Somali speaking World, has descended into tribal fiasco, the Somali people are totally incapable of giving up tribalism and adopting meaningful democracy. So I came to the conclusion that the only way forward for the Somali people is: 1.To strip the right to be in government from all the major clans, meaning all the 4 clans will have no say in the country's affairs and only the 0.5 will rule. 2. Dismantle all the post 1991 political entities and bring back the previous 18 states of the former republic. These 18 states will become federal states. 3. Each federal state will have within it autonomous districts with its own elected government, more like the councils in the UK. And each federal state will have an elected governor and parliament. 4. All the citizens and residents of the country will be given a biometric ID card which will also be used for voting, banking, and accessing social security. Each person should be able to vote only in the state and district of his/her residence and only once. If they move address they will have to register again to vote in their new location but will loose the right to vote in their previous location of residence. This means each person will only vote once wherever in the country they are. 5. Each federal state will elect a number of representatives according to their population (using the database of the biometric ID system) for a federal parliament in Mogadishu which will have legislative powers. 5. The smallest minority clans in the country (the 0.5 in the absurd formula) will be allowed to elect all the members of the Senate for the federal government. The senate will have the power to scrutinise all the legislation coming from the lower house. 6. The senate made only of members of our minority clans will appoint a lifetime constitutional king or queen from among their people. The monarch will then appoint his/her majesty’s government made of a premier and ministers on a five year term basis. All members of the government will be from the minority clans and all must be highly educated and capable. This way Alpha, there will be no power struggle between the troublesome four big tribes and with tribal politics out of the way, Somalis can get on with their lives and compete with the wider world not only with each other.

Gacmo furan halagu soo dhaweeyo raggaa.

Alpha Blondy;902231 wrote: ^ i'm sorry but i wouldn't exchange the life experiences i had in england to be stuck in some IMF-indebted 'Mozambique' of Africa. you see the opportunities and experiences i had in the UK give me the upper hand over the local somalilanders. i have NO VALUE without brandishing my passport every 56 minutes in their faces like a wasteman and speaking 5 words of english for every 2.75 words of somali - eg: waar dadkan are bloody lazy and lack basic humanity ma istiri? , i cease to exist and have NO VALUE at all. the thought of turning out to be some of the individuals i've see in somaliland, shocks the different sections of my mental capacities... ruunti. a donkey cart biyoleh, a late shift taxi driver whose mind has been addled by khat addiction, a corrupt low ranking government official, a tourist operator whose never set foot outside the country but who speaks private-tuition paid for American-English, a cheesy internationalist off-shore oil executive whose been as far as Dubai. NO THANKS! WAR IS GOOD! GREED IS GOOD! POWER FOR THE 1% ONLY!