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  1. We seem to be the worst nation in regards to corruption and security, Even our passport is among the most visa restricted. Whats more worse is that 20 years of anarchy and chaos have totally destroyed the healthcare in our country. Somalia has today one of the worst vaccination rate in the world. We are in second in the world regards to children dying of horrible but easily treatable diseases. Compare these rated to when we had fully functioning government. We had high literacy, free education, and free healthcare. ilaahayow wadankeena u gargaar. Lowest vaccination rates Nigeria42% Somalia46% Central African Republic49% Equatorial Guinea51% Vanuatu52% Guinea58% Measles vaccination coverage (%), 2012 Less than 50% 50-79% 80-89% 90% and above No data The long view The growth of global immunisation Continue reading the main story Related Stories Anti-cancer vaccine for Laos Immunisation has been one of the great success stories of global health. It is estimated to prevent the deaths of two to three million children each year. But another 1.5 million children still die from diseases that could be prevented by routine vaccines. The eradication of smallpox in 1979 helped encourage global efforts to fight more diseases through immunisation. These maps chart the growth of global vaccine coverage from 1980 and show which countries are doing best - and worst - at protecting their population. The three vaccines illustrated combat five infections and have been chosen as they demonstrate varying levels of progress against several major diseases. Continue reading the main story INTERACTIVE MeaslesHib3DTP3Click on the map to zoom Measles Measles is a highly infectious viral disease whose symptoms include a high fever and rash. Complications of measles can include blindness, brain swelling and pneumonia. A very effective measles vaccine was introduced in the late 1960s and immunisation rates have soared since 1980. As a result, the number of deaths from the disease have plummeted from 2.6 million in 1980 to 156,000 last year. The past three decades have seen a dramatic increase in measles immunisation and a rapid decline in deaths, but there is concern that global immunisation rates have levelled off in recent years. By 2012, 84% of children globally got one dose of measles vaccine by their second birthday. Since 2009 the WHO has recommended that all children receive a second dose of the vaccine. Since measles only affects humans it should be possible to eradicate but several targets have been missed. Growth in measles vaccination coverage Measles Containing Vaccine (MCV) coverage, 1980-2012 (%) MeaslesHib3DTP3 Source: WHO and UNICEF estimates of national routine immunization coverage, 2012 data revision (July 2013). Vaccines: Who's missing out? The World Health Organisation (WHO) estimates that 1.5 million deaths children under five die each year from diseases that could have been prevented by routine immunisation. Vaccine-preventable diseases, breakdown The chart shows that pneumococcal diseases and rotavirus infection are responsible for around two thirds of these deaths. The former causes pneumonia and the latter is the most common cause of severe diarrhoea. Vaccines against the main causes of both infections have been introduced in the past decade. They are now routinely available in wealthier countries and are being gradually introduced across the developing world. The Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation (GAVI) has preliminary plans to support the introduction of rotavirus vaccines in more than 30 of the world's poorest countries by 2015. More than 25 developing countries have begun using pneumococcal vaccines and it hopes to rollout the jab in 45 countries by 2015.
  2. Just as Saferzz said mental illness is a real problem in Somalia, come on, let us not fool ourselves. What do you expect from a nation has gone through a vicious civil war, and on top of that over 20 % of the population are internally displaced refugees. The signs of of mental illness does not always have to be "waalida dharka siibka eh' Many people probably suffer from depression and other stress traumas, that's why we often see people who self-medicate on Khat and other ddrugs. Other problems are exactly what other posters said: Mental health issues are a real stigma in Somali society. We need to change this and talk a lot more about how we can help these people. Apo: It's very strange that some one like you, who sees him cultured and well read on issues to see psychology as as pseudo-science or bullshit.. Your probably the first Marxist to make that critique. I hope that you understand that psychology has developed a lot since Freud. Behavioral psychology is today widely accepted within the scientific community.
  3. Alle-ubaahne;980909 wrote: AUN dhamaantood. I am sure most of them were young people at their prime times, running away the desperations of Somalia and the hopelessness for a better life in Europe. I have a cousin that is missing in Libya, whose boat failed twice and got arrested in Libya. He is one of the only two sons of my Eedo. Our people have harrowing stories to tell about these trying times of the past two decades! Ilaahow noo naxariiso, dalkeenana ka qabo kuwa ku ciyaaraya oo arxan-laaweyaasha ah, aamiin. Good to see your still on board on the forum Lampeda is a shame Ilaahay ha u naxariisto dhalanyardeena waxaan rabbi ka baryaa in u wadankooda noqdo kii luu tarhiibilahaay. Kolley si sahal hadaan arrinka ugu dhiga, dadkaani madow 100 ayaa colonialism luu heeystay. Khayrraadkoodan ayaa laga xaday. So they are in a sense people reclaim what was theirs from the beginning.
  4. Gheelle.T;981029 wrote: Niman ooynaaya AS iska dhicin maayaan ee Masaajidka ciyaarta ka daaya! Gheele warkiisa amaa wax ka jiraa, NIMAN OYNAAYO ma taaban karaan bahalada AS Anyways, good soldiers, hope they understand the responsibility rested upon them.
  5. Safferz, This year went extremely fast ( hopefully these three months) will save us all. Of all these things on my list it's only number 1 I think I still have some tme to do a turn over . By the way Yaanan liga nixin becouse of the many failure. Caajisnimada wallaahi waa shay qatar But who knows, Ilaahay haduu na gaarsiiyo 2014 will be year of the CHANGE. 1:Lose some weight (Failed miserably) 2: Return to the books and begin research on pharmacokinetics, (Failed, after 4 ,5 years studies in pharmacology I simply did not have the interest 3: Make a trip to Somalia and see whats happening their: Failed, I dont want to get shot or die, been yaanan lisku sheegin, nafta waan jeclahay 4: Quit smoking: Succsess/Failure, well I stopped smoking but ended up with using swedish tubaako, same shit 5: Start walking at least 1 km twice a week: Failed, Waaba sii caajisay, I dont even want to walk to the bus station
  6. Tallaabo;980516 wrote: This is so sad may Allah forgive their sins and bless their souls. This has become a recurring tragedy afflicting our people. The Islamic scholars should speak up against this dangerous and unacceptable gamble with life our youth are taking for promise of a better future. Talaabo, I share your worries, We truly need some change but I dont know what islamic scholars could do? Who can stop a person seeking a better life? A life free from vicious wars and poverty. These poor youth had for a very good reason, a feeling that they could not fulfill their aspirations of life in Somalia. We need a change to that. Ma Sahlano xalka laakin ilaahay ayaa joogo. God's peace be upon those who died, samir iyo imaan ilaahay ha siiyo eheledooda.
  7. Inna lillahi waa ilayhi rajacun, Ilaahay ha u naxariisto.
  8. How children of the world united at a Soviet school By Oxana Vozhdaeva BBC World Service In 1939, a nine-year-old Palestinian girl found herself alone, sobbing her heart out in a Russian children's home. "I remember how much I cried. It hurt," Daulia Saadi explains, more than 70 years later. Saadi's mother was returning to Lebanon, to rejoin the communist struggle she had left a few years earlier - and to rejoin Saadi's father, who was secretary of the banned Communist Party of Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. Daulia Saadi, 2013 After leaving the Interdom, Daulia Saadi remained in Russia "I asked my mother many years later: how could you do it?" "She said, 'Daulia, what could I do?' Continue reading the main story Find out more Oxana Vozhdaeva's report was featured on Weekend on the BBC World Service. More from Weekend More from the BBC World Service "Our parents were so passionate about the revolutionary struggle that they left their children in another country. "Their whole lives were abnormal." So Saadi's childhood was spent at the Interdom, short for International House, in Ivanovo, 250 km (155 miles) north-east of Moscow. Decades later, she has fond memories, like many other former students, of singing revolutionary songs, and rejoicing in the belief that their parents were making the world a better place. The old Interdom building The school made sure children were taught their own language, history and culture, and took pains to find teachers even of rare languages. Unlike other Soviet children, the students received information from overseas and were allowed to travel to visit their parents. Daulia Saadi remembers Mao's eldest son, Mao Anying, who was known in the home as Sergei Yun Fu. A group of children, including Mao Anying, at Interdom Mao Anying is second from the left in the back row His story ended tragically. On returning to China, according to some former Interdom pupils, Mao Anying clashed with his father, accusing him of creating a cult of personality. Partly for this reason, he volunteered to fight in Korea, and died there. Continue reading the main story Mao Anying Mao Anying when he was at Interdom 1922 born in Hunan province 1930 mother Yang Kaihui executed by the nationalist Kuomintang 1930 smuggled to Shanghai where he spent some time living on the street 1936 sent to Paris then on to Russia 1947 returned to China 1950 killed by a bomb in the Korean War The idea for a boarding school for revolutionaries' children came from a Swiss activist, Mentona Moser, whose family founded the Moser watchmaking company. When she travelled to Russia in 1926, Moser was so inspired by the communist state that she decided to donate part of her inheritance to the creation of the school. She was helped by a fellow countryman, Fritz Platten, who was best known for assisting Russian emigres, including Lenin, to return from Switzerland to Russia in 1917. Platten is said to have organised the sealed train that took Lenin through German-occupied Europe to St Petersburg. At first a children's home was set up near Podolsk, to the south of Moscow, but by 1933 a new building had been built in Ivanovo, funded by the city's textile workers. The first people to be brought here were the children of anti-fascists in Bulgaria and Germany, but in time political activists from all over the world sent their children to Ivanovo. Youngsters came from Greece, Austria, Italy, Spain, Chile, Iran, Angola, Ethiopia and Somalia. Amaya Ruiz Ibarruri Amaya Ruiz Ibarruri, the daughter of Spanish communist La Pasionaria, studied at Interdom From the list of countries, you could construct a map of the 20th Century's conflicts and political faultlines. Children were also taken to Ivanovo during the blockade of Leningrad in World War II and after the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986. In all, 5,000 children from 85 countries passed through the Interdom's doors. What many former pupils value most is the international spirit that stemmed from this. "The Interdom gave me a cosmopolitan outlook," says Beatrice Otigo-Potapova, whose father was a prominent Kenyan politician, and a personal friend of longstanding Soviet politburo member Anastas Mikoyan. "I categorically refuse to accept any form of nationalism, be it black or white, it makes no difference to me. Plus honesty - you have to say things how they are, and to love people for how they are." Two other friends, Tavanei Ayalny from Ethiopia and Varsami Aidi from Somalia, echo that view. "We are both Africans, but there was war between our countries. However, it made no difference to us. We're brothers. That's the main thing the Interdom taught us." Ayalny and Aidi with their arms around each other Tavanei Ayalny and Varsami Aidi in 2013 The last 10 years, leading up to its 80th birthday this year, have been difficult ones for the Interdom. Plans to turn it into a military academy were only averted after the students wrote to President Vladimir Putin and staged a hunger strike. The school survived but lost its "international" status. Continue reading the main story More from the Magazine The book that shook the USSR The Cold War rival to Eurovision The Greta Garbo of space How the Beatles rocked the Eastern Bloc Now the children are mostly from Russia and former Soviet republics, often from hotspots of inter-ethnic conflict. But an association of graduates has recently appealed to the Russian authorities to make it "international" once more. Here, they say, one could provide a home to children from conflict zones, such as Libya or Syria, or from areas struck by earthquakes, tsunamis or other natural disasters. Although the age of communist revolutions is long gone, another generation of children, they argue, might grow up to serve as "ambassadors of Russian culture" overseas. Oxana Vozhdaeva's report was featured on Weekend on the BBC World Service.
  9. Hobbesian_Brute;980447 wrote: Ahmed gurey got his *** whopped by the Abyssinian christian king later after being surprised initially, so stop gloating for this one hit wonder. It is correct that he was killed but we can not deny that he captured the highlands of Gondar and Tigray and wa the first muslim to do so,most historical accounts say so. It was during his time that indigenous muslim jeberta of Wollo and Tigray got established. Eventually the tide turned when the brother of the famous Portuguese sailor Vasco Da-Gama came to the rescue with well equipped catholic Jesuit soldiers. Ironically history repeats itself. When Somali soldiers, 500 years later captured the pre Dire-Dawa pass and were aproximtly 40 km from Addis guess who came to the rescue? Russians and Cubans! Though religion might have not played a role, we can not deny that Identity is always affiliated with it.
  10. Hobbesian_Brute;973759 wrote: I think the ADMIN should introduce an option to delete/deactivate one's account/profile. Anyone agree with me ? I guess Cambuulo&Hobbesian need rehab from sol;)
  11. SomaliPhilosopher;980389 wrote: Khadafi that is an interesting tale. Is there any Gabay's you know of that speak of such? Somaliphilosopher, Everything about Ethiopia & Somalia is legendary and full of mystique, no hard historical accounts exists. But the Amhara &Tigrayans themselves say that the habit became wide spread around year 1500, that is when Axmad Gurey became the first Muslim to capture the highlands. Kolley gabayo laga sameeyay arintaas ma og'i
  12. Whats more interesting why the mountainous Amhara and Tigrayans adapted to eating raw meat. The clip mentioned war and their is some truth to it. When Imaam Axmad Gurey (aun) successfully captured the fortresses of Gondar and Axum, the scattered and defeated forces of the Abyssinians were forced to eat raw meat so they did not expose themselves while cooking with fire.
  13. Nin-Yaaban;980345 wrote: Nothing is worse than killing kids. I can forgive almost anything else, but harming kids and women are the two worst things any person could do. If it's true....i hope they he pay's for it in the most horrible way. Dadka aduunka ugu liita ama ugu daciifsan ayaa waxaas 'ookale suubiya. Bal 4 ilmood oo saqiira maxaa ku kalifay inuu gowroco? Nin Yaaban, remember the guy who beat and strangled the poor kid in USA a couple of years ago?. Kolley dad waalaan ummad walbo aa laga helaa laakin, mental health is a serious issue we (as somalis) need to talk about. Think about it, a guy who has seen nothing but t murder and chaos and killings goes to Qurbaha. He will probably suffer from mental health issues. I remember a guy who used to work with local Police in our town. He told me that somalis were not those who steal and cheat other, not even drugs expect (khat). They were though highly proportionally present in violent crimes as stabbings. Local Faraaxos stabbing eath other is a menace.
  14. Warmoog;979920 wrote: Khadafi and Coofle, I appreciate what you two said. The inner dimension of Islam is immensely fascinating and I love learning about it. It would be good to see more discussions of it on this forum. It's well-known that Sheikh Abdul-Qadir Jilani (rahimullah) was one of the great Muslims who were given the ability to perform extraordinary acts, but the story in the OP isn't an account of his wonders. It's an account of one of his struggles on the spiritual path and it's recorded in the many biographies of him. The Sheikh also wrote firsthand accounts of his struggles on the path in his own works: the story Gate of Poverty is one of them and it clearly addresses both the inner and outer dimensions of the struggle for spiritual transformation. In terms of its relevance to inner spiritual development, which is what the topic here is about, I think story in the OP can also be viewed as a warning about the ego traps along the spiritual path. A reminder that the ego doesn't suddenly become tame as soon as we experience our first spiritual awakening or realization, but that it cunningly reasserts itself in new ways in order to take over our new ideas/aspirations/experiences and keep us under its control. In other words, our spiritual journeys can turn into ego trips, if we're not careful. I marvel at the twisted logic of people who, on the one hand, would criticize spiritual aspirants for their esoteric interpretations and their propensity to look for deeper layers of meaning in things while, on the other hand, assuming that spiritual aspirants would always (and only) take stories like that in the OP literally. Let me rephrase that for the usual suspects. You ridicule people for thinking and perceiving the world differently than you do, yet you also assume that those same people think just like you do--and you ridicule them for that too! Do you not realize how perverse that is? Here is a little something that puts a revealing light on things. I googled a few of the keywords in the title of this thread and immediately found this video clip in which a certain speaker tells the story in the OP and cites a narration by Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimullah). Some of you may recognize the voice of the speaker, who happens to be Anwar Al-Awlaki. Hmmm. Now isn't that interesting? I find this hilariously ironic. 'Cause I'm sure that if a thread were started with that video or a telling of the same story from a similar speaker, the predictable and inane trolling and 'Sufi' bashing would not occur. It goes to show that some people look not at what is presented to them, but at who is presenting it, and they base their judgements and reactions on that alone. It goes to show that such people do not know how to think . May Allah guide them, and all of us, to that which benefits. Wisdom is when one sees what Allah loves and what he/she/it does not. I guess some here are not proud of there Sufi background unless Awlaki or another "non somali" mentions it. Just as warmoog explained in detail The thread was about how your own ego can lead you to a path without God. Paul misled the followers of Jesus by his ego while the servant of God Cabdul-.Qaadir became more firm on his path to God. In conclusion, Jeylaani (qs) guided others to the truth by conquering his own Ego. Pail misled others when his own ego overcame him. One misled and the other guided. Ilaahay ha u naxariisto Sheekheena Cabdul Qaadir Jilani,
  15. Somaliphilisopher Does really what a post-colonial jaajus observed? In contrary to his jaajus report Somalia became the only nation in Africa who made a transition to power by democratic ballot box. Aadan Cadde alle ha u naxariisto taarikhda Soomaliya taas oo ku galay!. Edward Said, the great writer would explain this great detail.!
  16. Apophis;979687 wrote: I have only learned about it from opening this thread; so if I was to guess, I would say the chance of success is somewhere between 1-99.99%. u Less then that 0.5%. Woyanes mysteries is creating a viable Constitution where the Soomali-Galbeed are free join their brothers in Somalior crate theire owm state acording to the situatom Somali-Galbeed as a nouthion .Alll fine on the peoper but reality in the minority tigray
  17. Haatu;977072 wrote: ^Be careful waryaa. That's a hadith. Walalkeena afro-hashmitka ee xunjuf ayaa marka khaliifka laga dhiga lol
  18. [quoteMorning folks, I'm about to head to a meeting with my prof and I am NOT prepared. It will be hard to BS through a discussion of a 600+ page book I haven't read.. Safferez by the way did you succseed in the bullshitting through the discussions ? lol! Remember when I tried that once, my examiner just said "hmmm...your intresting BUT what are you talking about!
  19. Safferz;979625 wrote: Alpha can't cook so you'll have to consult the hired help, or the restaurant he's ordering from. Safferez by the way did you succseed in the bullshitting through the discussions ? lol! Remember when I tried that once, my examiner just said "hmmm...your intresting BUT what are you talking about!
  20. Waxaan yax-yax ee ku gelinayaan. What a shameful man. Justifying the cold blooded murder of women and children
  21. N.O.R.F;979624 wrote: There will come a time when all 'parties' say enough is enough and decide to go it alone. Its sad but let's face it and stop wasting time. Norf, that is a wish I hope comes true, but let's face it, in 2021 those who were born 1981-1991 will be in the age 30-40 years. They will be a whole generation that have not seen the meaning of citizenship in contrast to those who were born 1960-1970 who saw a peaceful Somalia and enjoyed the free education. We cant compare one who has eaten the fruit to the one who does not even know what fruit is. But who knows? Everyone is now talking about globalization. A kid in Mogadishu can now easily connect through the internet to the western/eastern world, that will maybe a positive factor. Nin Yaaban : A couple years ago I once had a newbie Somali youngster as a neighbor. He was some what educated but when he was amazed by the Swedish society he quietly told me " War ninyahow xadda aan fahmay waxa laga wado dowladnimo" That chocked me a bit because he was in his late 20-ties. That simply means that his whole generation has been shaped by the cow-boy mentality. Note: There are young somalis in Somalia whom are better educated then me in Somalia, my intent is not to generalize. But with the raw capitalism in Somalia, education for the one with the dollars means over 80% of all Somalis kids do not go to school.
  22. kickz;979595 wrote: Horta 1991 to 2021 is 30 years Kickz never heard from dramatization
  23. Times goes by fast, that is the fate of man, weather he wants it or not the clock ticks on. For some people, the duration of time is something of joy, seeing your children growing in your own country and and then reconnecting to their culture is what defines man. A human without a sense of proud in his root's or culture is man lost in the dimsy world of globalization. Somalis has now for some 23 years been scattered around the globe, within the 7 years to the dooms date of 2021 the old bourgeois-Beyzaani elite of pre 1991 Somalia who once in their life time saw the cosmopolitan peaceful Somalia will be to old or senile to do something that make a impact on Somalia. That is going to be a game changer. Sadly those "people"that I like to call the post-1991 will be people who have seen nothing then the barrel of the gun and chaos. But I am also optimistic. Maybe the youth in the west who know what statehood and rule of law means will change Somalia into a viable peaceful state with a modern outlook, and a firm conviction that Somalia can rise again in what ever means it can. But one thing is sure. No one, no Somali can blame the problems 2021 on a civil war that erupted 40 years ago, in 1991.
  24. Westgate attack: Kenya's 'Little Mogadishu' fears backlash Eastleigh is home to both Kenyan Somalis and migrants from Somalia Tuesday, September 24, 2013 A cloud of anxiety has engulfed the Somali-dominated Eastleigh suburb of Nairobi as the residents await the outcome of the standoff at the Westgate shopping mall. But many are also angry at the attack and rallying round to help the victims, like other Kenyans. Eastleigh is a suburb in the east of the Kenyan capital predominantly inhabited by Somalis, drawn from both Kenya and the Somalia, that is popularly referred to as "Little Mogadishu". It is a big business hub where East African traders come for shopping and is considered to be one of the leading markets in the region. It is normally a bustling place with everyone from hawkers, retailers and open market traders engaged in various activities to eke out a living. Following the claim by Somali Islamist group al-Shabab that it was responsible for the shopping mall's attack, some Eastleigh residents are apprehensive that they may be targeted by other Kenyans. A year ago, there were ethnic clashes between Somalis and other Kenyan communities after a minibus was blown up by militants in Eastleigh, killing at least seven people. According to Abdirizak Nur Ibrahim, a young Somali who has lived in Nairobi for more than 15 years as a refugee, life has changed drastically for many Somali nationals. Ibrahim says he fled Somalia to seek a safe haven in Kenya. "I don't know what to say, why are they doing this to such innocent people, unarmed people - those attackers are not only enemies to non-Muslims but to humanity," he says. "I condemn the attack and I wish that other communities will understand that we are against this ideology and share the pain with them." Another Eastleigh resident, Mohamed Ali, said he was concerned that should any of the attackers turn out to be Somali nationals or having emanated from Somalia, the community could be targeted. He thinks the harassment could come from either members of the public or Kenyan authorities, who have previously been accused of harassing ethnic Somalis as they search for Islamist militants. The chairman of Eastleigh District Business Association, Hassan Guled, says that they are waiting for the siege at the shopping mall to come to an end to gauge the reaction of the rest of the Kenyan community. Asked whether there is a possibility of retaliation against ethnic Somalis, Mr Guled said: "We don't expect that but we can't rule out criminal elements taking advantage of the situation to harass members of the Somali community". The businessman said no community should be targeted for the attack on Westgate shopping mall because it was an act of terrorism and an international crime that is not confined to any community or nation. The community has joined the rest of the nation to show their solidarity with the victims of the Westgate attack, and a centre has been established for blood donation and another for collecting money, food and other necessities to help those affected. Kamukunji Member of Parliament Yusuf Hassan, a Kenyan Somali, was injured in an attack that killed two people in Eastleigh last December. The MP was holding a discussion with his constituents after evening prayers at Hidaya Mosque when a man hurled a grenade at them, injuring nine people. Mr Hassan suffered a fractured leg and now uses a wheelchair. The attack on the Eastleigh MP sparked violent protests, with youths barricading roads with burning tyres. Kenya sent its troops to Somalia two years ago to fight al-Shabab after the group was involved in the abduction of tourists and aid workers from Kenya's coast and the Dadaab refugee camp, home to hundreds of thousands of Somali refugees in Kenya. The soldiers have since been re-hatted and are part of the 18,000-strong African Union (AU) force supporting the UN-backed government trying to establish control of Somalia. Are you in Nairobi? Have you been involved in helping the victims? Send us your stories using the form below. Source: BBC
  25. Che -Guevara;979041 wrote: lol@Ngonge, a mole to flush out AS supporters like you. warlord supporter crying about AS yet undermining the central government. This horrible act shows how potent Al-shabaab and why FGS needs support from the world to tackle the problem with Al-shabaab. In defense for Che. I think I know where he is hinting at. I have posted similar posts before. No war-machine weather how well-equipped it is or not can ever bring peace to Somalia if somalis themselves do not want it. For Gods sake, I know why Che is doubtful for any peace by the hands of any war-machinery from Kampala. What could they accomplish that Ethiopians could not? Remember that the Ethiopian troops quickly drove out the Al-shabaab from major cities but when it withdrew the boys from hell were back. Most importantly what will happen when the cash-cow, The USA dries it's support for Mouseveni and Amisom... What will be the consequences for Somalia? We all know what happened when UNISOM in 1995 withdrew from Somalia. It's critical questions we all need to ask ourselves. Personally, I do believe in a open democratic peaceful Somalia but the road to that peace is bumpy.