Barack Hussein Obama wins Iowa (97% Whites)

[LayZie G.]

but is obama willing to be her sidekick?

 

We know that hilary would have been more than willing to be riding that ticket with him, if he won hands down?

 

You know what, word lastnight was she was going back to washington to meet up with her staff and hubby, so we will see what comes out of it.

 

I think she is waiting for PA, if she can destroy him in PA and hold him to ateast 30% range, she will have a good case to say, listen up, I have proven that I can with in big states, its good and dandy to win for the smaller states, but how will that guarantee obama a win on the general election?

 

I said this before, this is bad if either candidate drags this to the end, but at the same time, Hilary is alive and kicking, and I am sure she will do the right thing.

 

PS:This party needs to show more than ever that when going gets tough, they can pull together and do what's best and thats destroying mccain who now has joined Bush in the hibs

[Gediid]

I doubt if Obama will turn that down but I think the question he or anyone thinking of becoming part of a Hilary presidency will have is how much influence Bill will have in her presidency.Its really hard to think of Hilary running the show by herself without Bill stepping in but either way the democrats have to avoid a protracted primary that will potentially harm their chances of uniting their party in time for the November elections.....

[Jacpher]

^War ka daa. Sidan xaal ma ahee. The man has clean plate unlike the Clintons.

 

A ticket with Clinton on top is what the old lady had been praying for since the initial knockout of Iowa. Obama is enjoying his insurmountable lead and will probably gain momentum in heavy African American areas of Mississippi and Philly. Will she be able to catch up to him in delegate numbers any time soon?

[Jacpher]

Clinton Wins Big, But Math is Troubling

 

Hillary Clinton's popular vote victories in Texas and Ohio fundamentally change the race for the Democratic presidential nomination in at least one important way: she's still in the race for the nomination. Clinton's long, arduous campaign might have ended abruptly if Obama delivered a knock-out blow in either state.

 

Instead, Clinton will fight on for at least the next seven weeks, until Pennsylvania votes on April 22. To get an idea of how long a period that is in political years, the Iowa caucuses — remember them? — were only eight weeks ago.

 

Clinton is emboldened not just by her Tuesday wins, but by several other developments over the past few days. She has now taken the popular votes in all the major industrial states that have held contests, except for Obama's home state of Illinois. Additionally, from Clinton's point of view, Obama is only now beginning to experience the aggressive media scrutiny standard for a serious presidential candidate. And she has finally found an advertising and rhetorical strategy to highlight Obama's relative lack of national security experience — his greatest weakness with voters.

 

But the March 4 results have not changed Obama's strongest talking point (and reality point) for why Clinton should exit the Democratic race: Math. It appears numerically impossible for her to overtake his lead among elected delegates.

 

Neither Obama nor Clinton can win the 2,025 delegates required for nomination without some combination of elected delegates (those chosen in primaries and caucuses) and superdelegates (party and elected officials who are automatic delegates to the Democrats' Denver convention this summer). About 800 of the approximately 4,000 delegates are superdelegates and several hundred of them are still uncommitted to either candidate.

 

Given the remaining contests — many with electorates favorable to Obama — Obama's existing hundred-plus delegate lead, and the rules by which Democrats apportion delegates, it is almost a political and mathematical certainty that Obama will have an elected delegate lead at the end of the process, barring dramatic, unforeseen circumstances.

 

Some of the upcoming states to vote — including Wyoming on Saturday and Mississippi on March 11 — are likely to swing strongly for Obama, and certainly show no signs of being Clinton blowouts. The same goes for North Carolina on May 6, and Oregon on May 20.

 

Other contests might be more favorable for Clinton (Pennsylvania, Indiana, Guam, West Virginia, Montana, and South Dakota), but even decisive wins in those states — say, in the 60-40 range—would still leave her behind in both elected delegates and the overall count. That remains true even if Clinton somehow succeeds in getting the disputed delegates from Florida and Michigan seated at the convention.

 

Clinton's only hope of winning a majority of the delegates is to overtake Obama's elected delegate lead by winning the bulk of the remaining superdelegates.

 

This is the heart of Clinton's multi-dimensional challenge. Obama has of late signed up more superdelegates than Clinton in part because they are swayed by his lead in elected delegates. Yet unless there is a significant change in the overall dynamic — a major Obama blunder or scandal for example — he is likely to continue accruing superdelegates regardless of Clinton's big March 4 wins. Also, the act of securing the nomination with unelected convention votes could be considered by many Obama supporters as highly undemocratic, embittering and dividing the party on the eve of the general election.

 

So Clinton lives to run for another seven weeks. But if you believe in the power of numbers, the candidate of inevitability is Barack Obama.

 

Time

 

[Jacpher]

Clinton's comeback - too little, too late - Slate Magazine

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Lazie, Hillary is the Huckabee of this race. But then again, Hillary was never good with math, was she? bummer.

[Pujah]

LOL LG - we're doing the same thing you were doing and will be doing when Hillary goes back to her losing streak.

 

The woman is yet to find her voice - maybe she should take you on as her political adviser Lazy

[xiinfaniin]

Hillary’s New Math Problem:The delegate calculus just got worse.

[LayZie G.]

^, please stop posting newsweek trash.

 

Newsweek is so biased, they no longer find the need to hide that they are pro-obama.

 

As to the obamamaniacs@pujah and Sanka, I guess the two of you are going for the headlines, math kulahaa.

 

This has nothing to do with math. As much as the media would want people believing the math scenario, and that if they repeat the math headlines enough times, that some how it will break down Hilary into giving up her chance to be a nominee.

 

It is not going to happen, Hilary is standing tall, and she will continue to stand tall.

 

I recall once at the beginning of the race when dear Hilary was ahead on pledged delegates as well as superdelegates, why wasn't the math rage being called at that time?

 

Some of you accused the media of favouring Hilary, but I could have sworen that atleast 70% of the time, during election time, that the media was pro-obama, or they were being positive when it comes to him and negative reporting on the Hilary CAMP.

 

As for Pujah, Hilary has some very capable and competent staff.

 

There might be false news being reported regarding her staff being at odds with one another, but rest assured, Hilary is dealing with it internally.

[ElPunto]

^LZG is a born contrarian. I say we all switch sides to Hilary and then we will see countless Obama accolades pouring from her mouth

[LayZie G.]

The point, I love the way aad beenta iskaga dhaadhiciso, its almost believable.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Lazie, why don't you explain how Hillary is going to win the nomination? Even if you give Hillary all the states that haven't voted yet as Jonathan Alter said!

 

1. Super-delegates -- if you let the SD's vote for their states, Obama will only loose 3 or 4 superdelegates to her after they are split.

2. Michigan and Florida -- if they have a do-over he will do better than he did before. Florida is hers. Michigan favors Obama. Either way, in the end they keep the delegate split very close.

3. Pledged delegats -- he is already ahead by 150

4. Popular vote -- This doesn't win you the election but he is still ahead on that front.

5. Number of States won -- He is ahead even if she wins all the remaining ones.

 

What is it that makes you think Hillary will reach 2025 before Obama.

 

Hillary's silly argument: The "rednecks" in the states of Ohio and PA have spoken and they have sent a clear message that Hillary should lead the nation. Forget the rest of America. All super-delegates must vote for me based on my "big state" wins.

 

Off-Topic

 

Here is a new "SurveyUSA" electoral college match-up against McCain.

 

 

[LayZie G.]

lol@sanka, always got sort of show you want to share with us.

 

According to the washington poll prior to tuesday's primaries, both candidates were ahead of Mccain, so in other words, your little map has no relevance.

 

As for the magic # to clinch the nomination, neither candidate will reach it.

 

If you watched the John King map on his big plasma screen, you would know that he played all sorts of scenario's over the past few weeks for both candidates, and neither made the crossing line, therefore neither candidate will clinch.

 

One thing we know from John's analysis is that, this will be upto both candidates, with one of them dropping out, or superdelegates via convention deciding the outcome.

 

SO, lets not play the math game eedo, with a 60-40 scenario, because it will forever favour OBama

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

^^Basically she is "hoping against hope".

 

lool.

[Faynuus]

Obama is loosing the game with all this foreign policy scandals. Hillary knows how to play the dirty game. Weird woman, i hate her.

 

I hope for Obama's come-back and straight to commander in cheif.