Salaan... Originally posted by Loyan: I will see you (Insha Allah) on 2003 What???!! 2003??!! That is soooooo long, maan. We will miss you so much. Come back, baliis. Soo bari saxiibow; even though, in here nomadland, we are still stuck in 1423. :cool: _______________ Macsalaama!!

Hi. My name is Xariif-Xaaji-XuuX-Xoogle. I was born in Dhuusamareeb. Bred in Iskushuban. I am 100-year-old man. I have ten brothers and I-can't-count-now sisters. I am the second oldest man in my family. My mother's name is Xaliimo-Xurbi-Xarish. My father's name is Xaasid-XaaX-Xam-Xam. I like to watch good movies. I like to read. I like to hang out with my friends and......... Heeeeeeeeeeey, are you listening to me, or what??? I see I already bored you to death. But, didn't you say you can write anything on this spot. You better listen to me then. _________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Silent_Guy: MMA (shactaroole numero 1, thought he was an old bold guy with a belly but to my surprise I have seen in one thread him mentioning that he was in intermediate level B4 the civil war } Widayoow, see camaleeto yaqeey. Homer Simpson maa iga dhigtey. A 'bald' guy with a 'belly.' LoooooooooooL. Iga qaleey saxiiboow. This is not fair. Aawey dadkii i arkey? I mean in REAL person. Kamoon out. __________________ I admire Taqwa. __________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Ilhaam: And finally, to PM someone you have to click the PM icon next to their name. Do you mind showing me around, baliis? I still didn't figure that one out. Baliis this newbie. Ad, welkam. I hope others had already answered your questions. ________________ P.S.: Do not mind today of my tip-toing because of my unfamiliar territory I am in. Someone THOUGHT I was a "middle-aged" man. So, I am making clearly myself that I am NOT only 'middle-aged,' but also a TEEN. And to prove that I have to be in this room. ________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Ilhaam: And finally, to PM someone you have to click the PM icon next to their name. Do you mind showing me around, baliis? I still didn't figure that one out. Baliis this newbie. Ad, welkam. I hope others had already answered your questions. ________________ P.S.: Do not mind today of my tip-toing because of my unfamiliar territory I am in. Someone THOUGHT I was a "middle-aged" man. So, I am making clearly myself that I am NOT only 'middle-aged,' but also a TEEN. And to prove that I have to be in this room. ________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Ilhaam: And finally, to PM someone you have to click the PM icon next to their name. Do you mind showing me around, baliis? I still didn't figure that one out. Baliis this newbie. Ad, welkam. I hope others had already answered your questions. ________________ P.S.: Do not mind today of my tip-toing because of my unfamiliar territory I am in. Someone THOUGHT I was a "middle-aged" man. So, I am making clearly myself that I am NOT only 'middle-aged,' but also a TEEN. And to prove that I have to be in this room. ________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Ilhaam: And finally, to PM someone you have to click the PM icon next to their name. Do you mind showing me around, baliis? I still didn't figure that one out. Baliis this newbie. Ad, welkam. I hope others had already answered your questions. ________________ P.S.: Do not mind today of my tip-toing because of my unfamiliar territory I am in. Someone THOUGHT I was a "middle-aged" man. So, I am making clearly myself that I am NOT only 'middle-aged,' but also a TEEN. And to prove that I have to be in this room. ________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Lakad, kaaba waran bo? Faytee? Sax!! Ee waxaaga lakiin foori kanjeelo fiya kafiyoore waaye ee bax. Tartiib ugu sheeg nooh martida. Kan usuga yaas kusoo dagi jirey hortibo. Yahuu. Baqeel yaa Baqaariste waaxid. To all our latest new members, our asxaab, first welkam, and baliis heed Lakad's advice: _________________ Mr President, you busted yourself. Who else are YOU out there on the nomadland???? _________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Hawlwadaag Hoose Dhexe. Galaaska Lixaad qabtii markii dhaceysay. Wixii Hawlwadaag Hoose dhigan jirey, xaadir dheh hee xaa sugee. _________________ Jaaw!

Salaan... Hawlwadaag Hoose Dhexe. Galaaska Lixaad qabtii markii dhaceysay. Wixii Hawlwadaag Hoose dhigan jirey, xaadir dheh hee xaa sugee. _________________ Jaaw!

Salaan... How did I miss this movie? Darn! I thought I had a connection in Toronto to know even when a pin drops, but now I might change my inside 'source.' Anyway, this is the movie that got the five stars those people are talking about: And guess what? Judging from the ad., it has one of the finest shactirooliyaal, including Maki Xaaji Banaadir [the guy with the koofiyad barawaani on the large picture}, Awkuuku {Ilaah ha u naxariisto, third from the left} iyo Odey Cabdulle {second from the left} By the way, Ilhaan and Nova, wee inoo talaa. Mala isku sheegaayo yaah, waji kaakiyaal waaxidiin???!!! :mad:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Yahuu!! Waala iska hadlaa lee la maqley. :rolleyes: Naga qaleey walashiis, hokey. Miss or Mrs. or even Ms. Soomaaliya hadii rabtid, adi noqo. ___________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Alla maxaa Yurub la jeclaadey. Aduun mashaqo ahaa. Can you believe this is the same continent where centuries ago that qabees was unheard in its culture? A man who bathed was considered 'dirty,' and now everyone wants to join. Mushkilo ahaa. P.S.: The King of Morroco in the year 2000 had been recorded to have said if European Union accepts Turkey as a member of its own, he too would soon apply--reasoning the proximity of Morroco's geographical nearness to Europe--that is Spain. __________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Wah! Wah! Wah! Meesha abaay heloow aaba camiratee, kiyooskoo yar ayba ku furatey. Waraada idinka faaraxiinta wax difaaco maleh miyaa ururkeen. Waaba u camireysiin. Sugbo anaa hooshed aqaano tan. Nasteexo, shirib hadii biloowdey, waa laguula shuk-shukulaa. :cool: ___________________ Xaq iyo xaraan mid xal u heshay malehee Xaasidnima intee isku xaaqdey xalanimina ku gaarin Xalaal waa loo xiisaa, xaraana waa laga xuroobaa Xaajigeed habeen iyo maalin xamaloow Iyadana intee ku xaashaneysaa Xuquuqdiis ku xadgudbeysaa, Xadna dhaaftee, ee bal mar xaasho Xamar waa lagu xisaabtamaa, Xarar Dheere xoog Xaliimo awalba axsaan lagaama sugeen Xaasidnima xaalkeed ayee dishaa Ee Xaliimo xaasho, xaalna qaado Xaajigaana xaal sii __________________ Makuu sii wadaa, ar majoogtidoo, intii aa baroorin __________________ Shariifeey, shaash saaro, Shareerka ku sheego Shariifkaa u sheekh Sheeko shaah maku siisee Shuufinimo sharaf malahee Ee shig-shignimadaa shuun bidaar galey haka dhigin Shactirana kashaac oo shax ciyaar Sheekhlaawe naagteed ay dishaa Shuqulkaa waala shaqshaqaa Shiinka quraanka in lagu saaro ma’ahee Shac kale ma sheegi karo Ee Shiikhaa markiis yimaado shariifooyinka kale shubuukadaa haka shacaan Ee Minaa guri sheekh timaato adoo shuu oo sidii shinida camal laguu dhigin lagaa sheegi maayo _______________ Waa kasaa, ee mar danbe afaaraheen hana soo gishan. _______________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Duqa, first welkam oo isbarmuuto ii cab, instead of a cup of Vodka. And I am sorry for the tragedy that a family member had been killed. Ilaahey ha u naxariisto: Aamiin!! Now, old excuses never die. Even Gaaladii aa dhaheyso saan: Drinking alcohol to ease depression: This not only reduces the effectiveness of many of the medications you may be taking, but alcohol is a depressant that will make the depression deeper and last longer. Alcohol will rob your body of nutrients that are important for good physical and mental health, and impair your judgment. Drinking to ease the pain can only spell disaster. From a counselling site on the net. Marka, saxiiboow, whether your wife left, your brother imprisoned, or any other person you treasure passed away, nothing justifies that you drink Qamro. Even, say, if the whole world collapses on your head, qamro would remain xaraan. That is the way it is. Marka, as even gaaladii did realize that it doesn't ease pain or depression, why would you make yourself more depressed? Baliis, read the Quraanka Kariimka. And seek a professional help--whether from wadaado, a family member, or even those so-called professional counsellors. _______________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Thank you for being there, Thank you for understanding...Thank you took the time to care...because I thank you for being there for me Well, you are welkam. And it is *our* pleasure. Anything I can for you again? Nice poem there, abaayadiis. ________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Gediid: No one said 'Reer Nugaal wrote af Soomaali.' See camaleeto waraa. I said Siyaad Barre introduced the writen Soomaali, and thus he was from Nugaal OR SOOMAALI GALBEED {same as they speak same dialect}. So he had a great influence. Illmatic: Kaaba, nah. Run lee sheegaayi. Yes, we might have agreed its 'familiarity' among Soomaalis to use that standard Soomaali. But, I never thought that 'stardard' Soomaali originated from Nugaal. I always believed it was Mudug, precisely Gaalkacyo area. And I am not from this region, so I am fair. I don't know why brother Muraad is a bit mad. Muraad: Raali iyo nuskiis hadii si kale u qaadatey. :cool: I thought you got my irrelevant 'joke.' Anyway, I just thought to disagree your way of saying Nugaal has the standard Soomaali. As I said, I always thought the standard Soomaali came from Gaalkacyo area, minus its heavily dialectical. Again, I don't know your defination of 'standard' that believing this region you mention has no 'dialect.' What is dialect? I thought it was some words spoken in some regions that couldn't be understood in another region that spoke same language. And, kamoon, tell me that part of the region has full words we who came from some other parts of the country couldn't grasp, let alone understand. So, isn't that a dialect? Or you are saying THEIR DIALECT is a 'pure' Soomaali??? I am just disagreeing you, ee si kale ha u qaadan saxiiboow. Jaluut: FYI, Maxamed Siyaad did not exactly come from Nugaal region. I know that. What I said was 'its vicinity.' What I meant roughly was he spoke the dialect Reer Nugaal speak. We all know Siyaad was born and bred in Soomaali Galbeed. Libaax, I know. Remember I said 'ITS VICINITY,' which I roughly meant that whole area. __________________ Soon Wanaagsan!!

Salaan... it's NUGAAL region, anyone thinks different can come forward with his/her proofs Muraad, LoooooL. Kaaba waa is caariftee. You could easily have said I am a Reer Nugaal. No need to say far. I do not agree with you with this, brother. Why? See, as you said, that there is no original Soomaali, so there is also, using your logic, no 'standard' Soomaali. If there is an original one, then there must also be a standard. Simple. That supposedly 'standard' Soomaali you see used basicly in, mostly, by newspapers, radios, and other medium communications is that because of Maxamed Siyaad Barre. Supposedly, Nugaal or its vicity as a region was where he was from. And as he was in power when Soomaali writing was introduced, he with his power said so that is the way the 'standard' Soomaali should be. Or else!!! So, it is not about that region produced Sayid Max'ed C/lle Xasan or any poets, or any other viable reason. Simply it was Siyaad Barre's unmatched influence, and that's the way it became. I can also say this is the STANDARD Soomaali, "Doogaan hooba kasaasa....dheegtey ma'ahaa??" :cool: Ninba afkiis aala quman dheh. Mise 'standard' la eh. _______________ Soon Wanaagsan!!

Salaan... Nasra, see waaye walashiis. Saan dhab mee kaa tahey, mise fara ka ciyaar waaye oo dhiigeen inaa kicisaa rabtaa??? Kamoon. Soomaali waala wada yahey ee tartiibso walashiis. I will refute your reasoning. Quote and unquote from your second post. Originally posted by Nasra: First of all we are uncivilised nation, Our litercay rate is low and that explains the troubles caused within our communities Siyaad Barre started in '72 a campaign called bar ama baro. And it worked. Within short period, a population that had zero literacy in af Soomaali came to have known to have 30% literacy rate!! That is a fact. Have you noticed that most nations have tribes such as the asians ppl...american indias ppl...just to name a few! yet we are the only nation who die for tribe and wipe each other due to this fact Really??? You are not telling me in Afghanistan. In Sri Lanka. In Ireland. In Bosnia. In Mexico. Whether you call these as a tribal struggle or as a religious, they are all same. And Afghanistan is exactly like us. So we are not at least alone. And now we have moved on and yet tribe issues are disscussed and we still have racist people(triblism people)who are continuing what we have left back home Yep, and true, we have people like them. And they are among us. We are doing our best to eradicate this portion among us. But, what views do the MAJORITY in this Qurba hold? Are they qabiiliste also??? You tell us. We tend to be more selfish then other nations we are greedy and selffish I think you need to go to the nearest Soomaali maqaayad, and report back to us. Baliis while there observe keenly who pays when there is a group or two people. Soomaalis are the only culture I had seen that it became literally an obligation that when two Soomaali people or more are together and went to a maqaayad, it became as though being so waajib that always one person pays for all. Waaba la isku dagalaa even. "Anaa bixinaaayo!" "Walaahi, anaa bixinaayi, kaama yeeli..." :cool: Ii sheeg meel kale aa ku aragtid waxaas. Oh, you said you DO NOT live where Soomaalis live. That is the mighty reason. We gossip and jump to other people bussiness and make judgments that are not neccessary. We are more competive with each other which also get's personal and out of hand. Don't get me wrong competion is very healthy Who doesn't gossip? Ii sheeg bo. The last time I knew even George W. Bush was gossiping, and his mike caught him publicly that insulting a New York Times reporter. Remember that episode. No one is immune to gossip. One person's problem is one person's happiness... Your happiness of being proud to be a Soomaali is our happiness too. We also tend to fight with each other physically and verbally which is not neccassary Who doesn't fight. The whole world is fighting. Yes, physically and verbally. Listen to Bin Ladin. Listen to Blair. Listen Castro. Just watch Al-Jasiira, and you will see who isn't fighting and who is. Oh, if you mean a personal fighting, Soomaali caadideeda waaye. We have our own proverb of it called, "I jiid ama haku jiido gacmo daalis lee maahinoo" We see old ladies gossping while they suppose be preparing for end of there lives.... Gossiping whether old or young is xaraan. And bad. But, if you think it is only our elders who gossip, just give a visit to churches. You see old ladies who should be worshipping instead gossipping like a... See, it is not only us. I gave you as an example of this because all people of all ways of life gossip. I and you too. And by the way, WE too should prepare the END of our days. i mean the list goes on...and thank allah i don't live near somalian people...I can't live with somalians and i can't live with out somalians Walaahi????? I thought being a part of somaliaonline.com forum and having a nomad title was to LIVE among us. Don't you agree??? Yeah, you do since you said you can't also live without Soomaali people. But one thing i have noticed is that we are SO DIFFERENT and trouble makers, comparing to other nations Do we bother other nations. We used proud to live in Soomaaliya before this qub-qash-qac thing started. And we sure will once again be proud to live in Soomaaliya as peaceful as we used to be. Just give us a time. And, p.s., the country you reside waa soo martey this 'trouble.' And yes, and true, that we are SOOO DIFFERENT. Reason: ONE NATION. ONE PEOPLE. ONE FAITH. ONE LUUQAD. ONE DHAQAN. What else do you ask for???? Kamoooon. _________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... W.S.W.W., walashiis. Soo dhaaf. Minanka, minankaa waaye. Ha is xariifin. Haye, shaah maa laguugu bilabaa. Mise qaxwo. Mise caano booro. Mise to be a true nomad, caano geel oo qareer dhab eh. ______________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan... Muraad, is it Ceel Duureed or Ceel Dooreed? You know there is some distinct difference in there. Duur as of duurka banaanka eh. Mise door sida dooro. LoL. __________________ My nightmare of Soomaaliya having this government: C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed being a president. Xuseen Maxamed Faarax Caydiid being a prime minister. Maxamed Xasan Nuur Shaatigaduud being a wasiirka gaashaandhiga. And forget about a government that has Morgan, Qanyare, Gaani, Madoowe, Jees, Caato, Yalaxoow, Finish, Xaabsade, Gabyoow, Jaamac, etc, etc. I would rather wish to keep the status quo than having those above mentioned and some others who currently are gathering Ceel Duureed to be the members of the next effective government Soomaaliya would have. I lost all hope with those warlords and their minions. The only man I would crown the president, the prime minister, the all-main posts in any government Soomaaliya would have would like to be Mawliid Macaane. Soomaalis are finally realizing that it is about time that Jareer and other minorities lead us--US BEING THOSE WHO BELONG THE FOUR TRADITIONAL SOOMAALI CLANS--all the way. ________________ Ah, where are our ugaases, imaams, suldaans, malaaqs, etc??? Where the heck did they disappear in the last ten years or so??? I thought their jobs was to mediate when we are in situations like these. We have to find them, quickly. _________________ Soon Wanaagsan!!

Salaan... LoooooooooooooooooooooooooL at Nuune. LooooooooL. Maan. Meesha, duqa, maxaa la kala gadanoyaa. Gabarta maa laga gadanooyaa that they would never see 'her' again. My goodness. Ebidkeey dad saas u baqeel eh ma arkin. Ten thousand dollars at least kulahaa. Meesha down payment oo guri la gadanaayo maa ka socoto. Walaahi dadkeen waa washeen. ___________________ Mujaahid, I have this in mind: If the girl or her family want a cent more than $1,000, I and my family are OUT OF THE DOOR. And the $1,000 is CANADIAN DOLLARS, which is roughly $600 U.S. Now, I love living in Canada. :cool: ___________________ Macsalaama!!

Salaan...iyo suxuur wacan. Back home, we used to have this dhaqan that when someone passes away, there used to be a huge sab {a huge meal offered to the public} on that funeral day. We came to qurba, we realized that was a bit wrong, and a bit un-Islamic because it is extra burden to the family of deceased financially and socially to do so. Even to the rich ones. We understand. But since when did ISLAAM say dadka hala buriyo oo guriga ka xirta markee imaadaan dadka guriga qofka ka dhinto????????? That happened. I had seen some wadaado doing it. Using the public speaker every time oo meydka lagu tukanaayo saying, "Yaa guriga la tagin, meeshaa ka imaatey ku noqo..." Those words and etc. You can't even believe how negative the tone they are using is. I don't know where those wadaado got this idea of dadka la burinaayo. God. Imagine someone coming from a city fourteen hours away, and markuu meydka ku tukanaayo had been told to STAY AWAY FROM THE HOUSE OF TACSIDA because of this or that. God. Another case. Even those who dare to go to the house of tacsi, why aa baahi loogu dilaa dadka. Cunto iyo sharaab meesha ay wada buxaan, but not a soul is offered to drink. Since when did Islaam advocate not to be generous????? Some wadaado would take anything sooooo literally, which itself is against the rules of Islaam. Islaam is moderate. Read the Quraan. We understand perfectly that the Prophet {s.c.w.} did not encourage in sab lagu dhigo in the house of deceased because of some people being destitute. In favour of the poor families, he discouraged it. And we understand that. But, I am sure the Prophet wouldn't mind if a rich person or people offer the poor a meal, and ask{s} them to make duca for the deceased. Exactly like that, instead of a small meal, some offer a huge one--a sab--thus kii cuno laga rabo inuu u duceeyo qofka dhintey. And it thus became a Soomaali culture known as sab. And what do some fringe wadaado say regarding that today?? Noooooo. Nooo. It makes me to roll my eyes out, like a real xaliimo :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: , walaahi May God help them. __________________ Soon Wanaagsan!!

Salaan...and saxuur {yeah, saxuurteey aa ii baxoowso in here now} In the case of mother-in-laws, the most important aspect that is misunderstood is misunderstanding. When a mother lives her son’s house, she automatically assumes and resumes that she is THE one who 'runs' in her son's house, while the wife thinks she has every right to run the house. And misunderstanding, unfortunately and inevitably, arises in this case. To avoid this, is to reconcile, mediated by the son and husband himself. Some mothers are wonderful, but as they age like the fathers, there is strange thing that we don’t understand. See, I always had this belief: as people get older, we seem to have this perception that they are so burdensome. So nosy. Being everywhere that ay shaqo ku laheen. This happens, and it is one of the misunderstandings. While the mother-in-law's main intention was to create harmony within her son's household by being too over-concerned in every imaginable decision taken in that house, they unfortunately then become unbearable and so nosy. Thus the seeds of hostile situations had been planted. The easiest way to avoid this is to keep both the spouse and your mother away from each other as far possible as you the husband can in the house. By the way, most mothers who have daughters who had been married would rather--as it is in the most cases--live with their daughters than to live with their daughter-in-laws. ___________________ Soon Wanaagsan!!

Salaan... Originally posted by Tamina: If you couldn't raise your child how can you expect another to? Tamina, sister, in Soomaaliya the society raised you. Everyone was your brother, sister, uncle, aunt, ayeeyo, etc. And you deeply had respect to your elders. And it was a must to do those little acts of kindness we consider as a good Samaritan in here West. In back home, those were acts of a must. Society dictates it so. Your neighbours are your guardians, advisers, and helpers in need of time. So, it is not only a parent who raises a child. Consider to this story. There was this well-known imaam in this U.S. city. He taught his child the best Islaamic manners a parent could teach and provide. Making the story short, the imaam lost his grown up son into Western ways. You name it. Piercing ears. Drinking. What went wrong, you ask. Still people are trying to figure it out. As you can see in this, howsoever you try to raise a child in this society, the negative pressure is greater than the positive one. Most who are fed-up are moving with their children to these Carab countries, mostly Dubeey and Qaahira. Because Carabta is the only alternative society until Soomaaliya gets into its feet. And may Allaah help us all be the best in Islaam and in our culture: Aamiin! And dhaqan celis works because I had seen plenty of guys who went there and had changed; yes, some might turn to jaad, but still some changed. Some even married as young. :cool: _________________ Soon Wanaagsan!!