you can not compare somalis to europeans (british),they are white, christian, from powerful country. no government will dare to convict european or american citizens, i would not have any problem if saudi gov will apply their punishment to all people regardless of color,or country of orgin.

what saudi gov did is one thing,and proposing the sharia to be changed is another. islam and the sharia for that matter is relevent any age and time.what i have problem is saudi gov. choosing when and who to apply. why can not we discuss this thing without insults either to somalis or arabs(even though i have yet to understand what this has to do with arabs)

let's not generalize entire arab race,somalis lived egypt and syria freely, yemenis and north africans are treated the same way as somalis, because they are poor,so let's focus only saudi government?. while i do not know exactly what these men did, and if punishments fits the crime, either way i do not really trust saudi justice, have you ever heard saudi government executing european or american, how many times did the court found european guilty and only after few months their conviction is to be over turned and released?. why is it always poor people from poor countries are executed?. this is not first time somalis are killed in saudi-arabia whether somalia has a government or not, is not the issue, regardless somalis are human being and their blood is not cheaper than saudi, or european . and please do not generalize entire somali population as punch of ignorants.

it was funny,but what i hate about somali weddings is they eat, dance and then say arooska ma shidnayn. ps i did not know ngonge was a girl

did you guys see the funeral,it was amazing, that shows how people loved him, i actually cried while watching his movie when he was grave digger, long time ago. he was great actor, also the prophet(PPUH) said mantion the good things about the dead person.

first i do not buy this little story,but let's assume it was correct,this undercover wadaad talked to young girls in private then gained their trust till they send him the picture,then betrayed that trust by showing the picture to totally strange young man,what kind of respectable person will do that let alone religious. second i have been here probably two years andi have never seen any evil things. islam says if you see somethung evil change with your hand,tongue then hate it by heart,but this guy i will not call him wadaad spreads it, did not islam requests us to cover other muslims,why would this guy damage the reputations of young women.

regardless whether people were joking or did not think before they wrote i am 100% sure almost every somali have heard the city wherever they come from. i do not think any wise somali person will insult any somali city at this time unless they are sick with clan hatred because every city,town and villege belongs to some qabiil,and insulting the city= insulting the qabiil,so i hope people will think before they write. how come people did not react this way when baydhabo,or jowhar were mantioned as candidate for new capital,if you guys were jelous because of mogadisho?

may allah forgive him and grant him firdowsa, i saw almost all his movies,and i never saw any racist message in his movies, beside he was not nubian, he was from zagazig. (in middle of egypt not south)so i guess you cannot blame him why did not he talk about nubian culture etc. not all darker skinned egyptians are nubians.

Xu i thought you might like to see this Can the State Intervene to Determine the Life of Individuals?

why did not you quote everything i said instead of picking and choosing. how come they did not do anything about yalaxow,dheere and all others,why did not they cut their hands and legs,cause i am sure they committed more crimes than any normal criminal and they are the ones who run these gangs,worst justice is the one that is carried against the weak. and because i do not live there right now,does not mean i do not know what is going on, it is been 15 years,mogadisho is still the most dangerous city in the world, did you even read what people said in the site i provided,what did they do for these people?. if they can not guarantee peaceful life to the people,then they should let other people do the job. not destroy the only hope these people have.

how come they did not do their little jihads against yalaxow and other warlords,it seems to me some people heard the term and does not know its meaning. where were they when people were killed, raped, and all the things that goes in the city, why did not they fight to death protecting innocents. life in somalia:personal stories

i think you are making assumptions,how do you know if girls wear it because of their parents,we do not know what is in their hearts, only Allah knows,even the prohet(PPUH) said that if the person says the shahada and does the basics then his judgement is with Allah only. plus i wear any hijab style that i like wether it is arab or pakistani. does that mean i am acting arab or pakistani,it just happens that their style goes with my personality,i do not see nothing wrong with it,btw do we(somalis) have our own hijab,other than jilbaabs. no one can force someone to wear hijab,and parents who do it,i think they are making mistakes. because they will not be with their children tomorrow.

what you mean it does not apply to us,it applies to us 100%, you will find yourself in that situation if somalis ever get the chance to live a medically advanced country,the debate is not about should the patient be killed or not but,does the government has the right to force the terminally ill patient take a life sustaining medication even though there is no hope for recovery. this has nothing to do with western life-style,one day anyone can wake up and be in vegatative state next day. Allah knows the best what is good,i would not want to commit suicide and go to hell,but if there is no hope for recovery, what is the point let the nature take its course.so to answer your question i would not want to live vegatative state for 15 years. in this terry case i do not trust the husband,so i am not really sure if she said it,so he should divorce her and let her parents take care of her.

xamar i think you are suffering from inferiority complex, i did not know some somalis consider themselves to be "whites" :confused: . whether you like it or not there is no difference between nigerians and somalis,both are blacks and africans plus it is not right to insult other people,it is very childish,you would not like other people calling you names, if you believe that somali race are superior to others,then how come the reality on the ground does not support you,those people that you're calling jareer atleast have a country and government. you can write your views without putting others down.

^^^ what this has to do with jews.why are all your posts are about jews :confused: let other people live as they choose . happy birthday girl

Originally posted by macalimuu: i spoke to one of the police officers and he confided in me that he could recognize how different somalis are in terms of their civility, mannerism,attire and education. He said the ones who were shouting are typically the ones who give bad name to the somali people. the gentle and chatty officer said that these odd men looked like they were off the plane and late comers to USA. we all laughed at his remarks and agreed with him. so you laughed and agreed with him, while the officer was insulting your people and implying that unless you lived in USA you're "uncivilized". if you were any different than those you accused, that they were influenced and blinded by their clan affiliation,you'd have defended your people against an outsider; however since they are against your views you were enjoying what you heard and agreed with him. i am so proud of you . plus people who organized this meeting should not mantion a topic that they know people do not agree on it,unless they wanted to happen what happened.

it is funny really,because they are enjoying surplus and their economey is good, they should not demand their own money. but that is what they get from supporting the war.

hi i am trying to build online store with access database,i have the database and the website,but i do not know how to connect them, if anyone know how to do it,or any nice books that explain step by step, i would appreciate it.

^^^ exactly, muslims most of the time do not want to blame themselves, if anything wrong happens it must be because of yuhuud or westerners. they say some muslim scholars allowed it, so it is kind of confusing.

^^^ is this jelousy or what? you should be happy for them at least they are building not destroying, and where on earth did the idea of competing with Allah's creation come from, Allah gave us brain and imagination. what is wrong with using them. they are trying to attract tourists, and that is not haram. plus why some people have a problem with rich arab countries? no one has the right to complain how they spend their money unless you are citizen of that country. and how come we do not see people complaining how western countries spend their money, and how brunei spend its money. :confused: if somalia had the same wealth i bet we would have been doing exactly the same thing.

war maxaa ka qaldan odagu,ma inuu dadka soo jiito buu u yimid mise inuu fogeeyo, i am sure dadka PL are happy that is he is away.

uma malaynaayo inuu ka waday faan, hadaad hadalkiisa oo dhamaystiran akhrisid wuxuu raaciyey "oo ina baday waxa na qabsaday hada laakiin" so seef la bood ha noqon bro. waxaan u muuqataa dad badan inay sugi la'yihiin fashalkiisa laakiin su'aashu waxa weeye badal ka fiican ma hayaan

^^^ relax i did actually looked up and laughed.

i have to agree with you, his biography was the best thing i ever read, i read it so many times but still i can get it enough. i think US tries to minimize his role,but what i like most about him is he never gave up his pride. they will talk about him on PPS for those of you who are not in london, but would like to know more about him. "I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how to return the treatment." Malcom X

i would rather have muslim peacekeepers than ethiopians.