Mooge. You can have own its differences with Sheekh Xasan, but to think that Uhuru was only referring to him is simply dumb.

Mooge. In what world do you live in? Do you seriously Have you read or seen what the man said?

^There are only few regions ( I am not talking about tribes) with the quintessential Somali look.

Hobbesian_Brute;980139 wrote: the admin must be one hardcore salafi himself . You seem to make it a habit of accusing anyone who doesn't share your views. What's next? Anwar. Bootada jooji.

Kenyan troops suspected of shoplifting from stores damaged by terror attack http://hiiraan.com/news4/2013/Oct/41384/kenyan_troops_suspected_of_shoplifting_from_stores_damaged_by_terror_attack.aspx No wonder the culprits escaped.

Both have not been seen in awhile, and there is a theory that XX and NGONGE might have been one and the same.

Wonderful news

Saalax;980093 wrote: Bantu and Somalilander is a oxymoron. Half of the male population in the North looks Bantu.

Brute. If you want reference, say so ninyahow. lol@innocent, when you were so ready to convict the Somali Brit and in fact, you and your homeboy seem ready to convict anyone, you will believe anything. In any case, let me know if you are interested. lol@Gheelle.T Since NGONGE retired, scripts (and not funny type) have flooded the place.

Enough to keep you in line.....

lol@complicated, and 'suspicious' man has been released. Briton freed without charge after Kenya mall attack http://hiiraan.com/news4/2013/Sept/41368/briton_freed_without_charge_after_kenya_mall_attack.aspx

'The Canadian is not an American – at least, not entirely, not yet' Alistair Horne I saw this somewhere while back, you are almost there Safferz. Forget this Canadian thing and join us:)

Canada, America's attic:D

Safferz;979157 wrote: What do we have to apologize for? Terrorist, you should be reported.

Gheelle.T I don't condone these attacks or any attacks against civilians. My views on AS has changed the moment they started terrorizing the Somali public. Now, there are the two things that needs to be said, one being that Ethiopia and to lesser extent Kenya have been part and parcel of the Somali problem. They have contributed immensely to the suffering of the Somali specially in the case of Ethiopia whose invasion of Somalia and merciless bombardment of my hometown caused thousands of death. Now, any decent person would acknowledge the damage these countries have inflicted on Somalis. But here you have people making excuses for every invader while shedding tears for every foreign victim. What's tragic is these people who accuse AS killing Somalis (rightfully so) support forces that continue to destabilize Somalia. A good example is the many forces in Kismayo who killed each other and are ready to kill each other. In fact, so many Solers who supposedly want to AS gone have celebrated the death and destruction of Somalis while boasting their warlord is stronger than the other, warlords who garner support from our neighbors. Lastly, our neighbors do not have Somalia's interest at heart. It is rather naive to think Kenya and Ethiopia would like to see a viable Somali. If anyone on this board is sincere, they wouldn't have fooled themselves into believing that somehow the world is interested in helping Somalia, least of all our neighbors. The tragic event in Nairobi puts every Somali on notice, continue to support factions in which case. you are at the mercy of lunatics and foreigners or support your Government. I won't accept the hypocrisy of condemning Al-Shabab while supporting foreigners who murdered Somalis and undermining the very Government that could possibly lift Somalia out of its misery. They are hard choices to be made. As you are one of the few people who know me in real life, I think you would admit, my stance has always been clear. It might be not popular but it's valid. If I were to go with the changing tides without any critical assessment, I guarantee I would have followed "adeer Yeey" and justified every bit what the Ethiopians did to our people.

I will get back to you later Gheelle. And for the record,I didn't justify this attack.

lol

lol@Ngonge, a mole to flush out AS supporters like you. Brute. I apologize first, I don't know you where you stand on Somali politics, but whatever you stance is, throw your support behind the Government that's if you are sincere about the demise of Al-Shabab. What is wrong with the people hoping for Al-Shabab to die is they do everything to keep it alive hence your tribaland supporters and warlord supporter crying about AS yet undermining the central government.

We seriously miscalculated the politics of the era and more importantly, we never laid a proper foundation for a stable state.

Somalia. If truth be told, nobody knows who outnumbers who in these regions. The only thing we can be sure of is those with most guns and foreign backers claim to be largest group. Somalis make wild claims about the numerical strength of any given tribe. And with regions so diverse, it will be hard to decide numbers.

Somalia. This particular community lives in all those regions, they have as much right to claim these regions as Madoobes of this world hence the insanity of tribal federalism.

Federalism in the way people here seem to understand will keep us in conflict. Tribal federalism will not work in the South.

tutu. Let me see your logic. I drive the message these agencies are fighting? More importantly, you should welcome any help that might assist in anyway killing these guys or exposing them, specially considering the Kikuye agencies drop the ball on this one. They not only fail on intelligence part, but they couldn't even free the place and people. The Isrealis had to be called in. This is for Brute since Apo and tutu are Kenyans, support your Government and drop whatever warlord or tribal land you support,

Mooge you are losing the plot ninyahow.

You mean Farole is the rational one?