cadnaan1;972096 wrote: Ditoore osmaneey,, reer muqdisho ma ahan dad reer cuqdad ah meeshi ay dantooda ku jirto way dagayaan idiinka laakiin wax walba ookiyaale qabiil ayaad ku fiirisaan. Well said Mr Cadnaan. The people of Somaliland and Mogadishu have strong bonds of Somalinimo between them and will always visit and live with each other. Ka nax ama ku farax Ditoore Cismaan.

Dr_Osman;971909 wrote: I think I need to provide an analysis on President Farole Speech and areas he touched upon. Firstly lets start with his comments towards Cade Muse being the instigator of the clashes on the elections. I agree with the president. There is no denying that Cade Muse was behind it and he was behind it for totally selfish reasons. He wants to see ina samatar become president so he can get favours from him when needed. Cade Muse has gone twice as a spoiler and farole has gone down as a hero for not retaliating. I am also suprised he made no mention of his ina adeer being killed at the police station in Qardho and the killers roaming free in Qardho. Farole truly shined and his love for Puntland superceded petty clan agendas as cade muse. I totally commend farole for his action in the controversial election, because honestly he could of retaliated if he wanted. Secondly he mentioned Mogadishu, now this issue has been on-going for a while and it is long over-due that he cuts all ties to this HAG based administration. This sick man in Villa Somalia thinks it's ok to change agreed upon constitution without even consulting the stakeholders who signed it and put it into place. The same constitution that he supposed to be defending, upholding. What sort of nonsense is this. To add insult to injury this man is getting every ambassador that is from Puntland out and barring our students from attending scholarships in Sudan which our certificates already got us into. He wants our students to get it approved in mogadishu. This Hassan culusow and his admin are hell bent on one thing and that is to see Puntland destroyed. This sick man shoud learn from history not repeat it. Many have tried this before against Puntland and they always fail. Learn from people's mistakes, don't repeat it. As far as I am concerned, all working relationships with mogadishu should be suspended until this mess in the SFG is sorted out. This should've of been done a long time ago, not now. As for the SOOL issue, it was good that the president addressed key issues about development assistance not reaching those areas and the root cause of this being the clan's unstable politics. This idea of switching between Puntland and Somaliand and Khatuumo leads to an environment where noone in they're right mind would invest because it could easily be destroyed tommorow through war. This unstable politics needs to be resolved. As for the President reference to Somaliland oil program. In all fairness, the somaliland admin isn't prospecting SOOL anyways. However the issues of the licenses are a serious problem and could lead to an all out war in the future. Somaliland has no right to be issuing oil license to regions that are not they're and have no legal basis too. It's like me giving out oil concessions for hiiran and saying we were italian somaliland to the international community and companies. Waa arin lagu qoslo. As for the President comments regarding Somaliland and Mogadishu talks. His absolutely right, mogadishu has a mandate to develop a government in mogadishu and seek cooperation from Somaliland on different issues such as security, information sharing, business, etc. Farole did welcome this, however it is not the mogadishu administration concern to be sitting down and talking about national border matters. The SFG mandate is to build governance in mogadishu. Some people in Somalia have this idea that mogadishu being the capital and being the head of the recognised government of Somalia they can do anything. There is nothing more further then the truth. This aint the 1960s when everyone in Somalia was in Mogadishu. Mogadishu represented all somalis then, however now it doesn't. The whole point of a federal system is exactly that, not one region or one man can have the final say on anything that is of national matters. Even if mogadishu wanted to have the final say, they can't it defeats the whole purpose of federalism and farole was right to highlight somaliland is truly wasting it's time. They playing a 1960's politics to a 2013 Somalia. Ha is-lugoynina. Mogadishu isn't like it used to be in the 1960's and wont ever be. Anything of national matters such as borders all somalis must be present because this affects all. On the flip side, I was quite disappointed that we are still talking about completing an 8 year airport project. Wa arin aad looga xumaado. the fake promises made about the Bosaso airport and now promises made about the tender for it being released this month is just ever the more sad. I was also quite disgusted why farole tip-toeing about such an important fiscal matte such as the somali shilling. Puntland should print it's own puntland shilling. There is no point we play this waiting game for mogadishu to sort out it's act and do the job. They are to busy robbing the central bank, we cannot rely on this failed administration on such a crucial fiscal matter and we should be using our own currency until the national currency is restored and working effectively. I'll end with the comments made by the famed ISIMO which was very encouraging and I hope they play a key role in ensuring Puntland remains peaceful and prosperous in the now and in the future. Ditoore, why can't you speak like this all the time and stop the torrent of ridiculous comments and threads which to be honest with you only belittle your professorial status? :confused:

Socotra never had any ties with the Somalis. It was colonised by different powers and changed religion two to three times during those colonisations. It should remain part and parcel of Yemen but it would be good if we established brotherly relations with the Muslim inhabitants of those Islands.

Dr_Osman;972035 wrote: What a joke, there is no history there. Rag wada qaawanayeen bay ahayeen oo jaadkooda cunayo. Who you kidding sxb. There is no sultantate there or any known boqortoyo that has been mentioned in the history of the north. Infact the only known boqortoyo of somaliya was yours truly the doctor and history attests to it. Sure theyre may be ppl who claim to be boqor today from other clans but they have no historical justification for it and just made it up to copy other clans who do have a historical justification and lineage. Lets put it simply boqortoyo soo jireen ah meesha kama jirin waqoyiga iyo hadu jiray bal ii tus document. Garoodi how does it feel abaha iyo awoowaha inay ahayeen dad aan tarikh laheen? must hurt don't it, must kill to know your ancestors were no different to xoolaha daaqayo You need a psychiatric medication as soon as possible. Maanta xoolaha aad sheegayso adigaa ka caqli liita saaxiib.

IsseRiyole;971910 wrote: I have a mixed feeling about this ,in one point i was born and Raised in Mogadishu didn't any other place but after what transpired i agree with Mr.Faroole who the hell needs Xamar? Corrupt, Killers, Rapers,Looters,Insane,Hatred , who can survive and cohapit such beings, Puntaland doesn't meed Xamar as long the current Tribalist Culusow in charge, My advise to Puntland Delclare self independent like South Sudan, we don't need the rest,except my Habaryaoros, SL. hey i have to be partial can't hate my mother side. Freedom to Puntland and Declare Self Indendent, To all the Puntland diaspora contact your Senators, Congressman and explain about Puntland don't sit there ,you must organize and see Puntland be recognized and it is the best interest of all Maryooley. Don't forget that there are many Puntlanders whose habaryaroos and abtiyoos are HAGs:cool:

Xaaji Xunjuf;971912 wrote: Thats just nonsense there is no talks between Somaliland and the garowe clan enclave , what is there 2 talk about , Somaliland only talks tot he legitimate goverment in Mogadishu. Xaaji talks and relationships should not be only between Hargaysa and Mogadishu. Somalia is not like Ethiopia, Kenya, or the other countries of the world where one leader and one government represents everyone and everything. Somalia is a loose collection of feuding clans and so Somaliland should engage in serious discussions with Puntland about any matter that affects both our populations. Don't forget, its the Garowe clan we are neighbours with and not the HAGs. Of course Somaliland should also continue its diplomatic talkathon with the administration in Mogadishu but security and economic co-operation with Puntland is in our interest.

Wow there are on going talks between Puntland and Somaliland!! This is a step in the right direction.

This is terribly sad, the victims were young orphans. Imagine the horror on the face of the mother of those murdered children when she confronts this awful news . She already lost her husband and then now lost four of her seven children in one night. Not only that, but she will have to care for the remaining three injured offspring. May the Almighty ease their pain.

Suldaanka;971879 wrote: This is what Qabyaalad comes down to. Ilaahay ha u naxariisto hana kala badbaadiyo inta nool ee hubka isu sidata. You are right.

I support Cabdi Raxmaad Faroole for bringing the so called Federal government to account. If there is an agreement signed between the state of Puntland and the administration in Mogadishu, then that agreement should be followed to the letter, no ifs and no buts. Until the Somalis learn how to follow rules and regulations, they will always be in chaos. If Mogadishu does not like the agreements they signed, they should lobby Puntland to agree to the amendment of those documents but the Mogadishu administration should not behave like an imperial power.

Xaaji Ilaahay ayaan kugu dhaaryee Ukraine taa baas ee aad ina daba waddo inaga daa. Xitaa haddii aad rabto inaad Afro Hashimite Somalilandishka tiradiisa iyo tayadiisa badiso inagu soo biiri umadaha la kala dhaho, Ashanti, Gujarati, Tibetan, Mongolian, iyo kuwii kale ee aad ka heshidba laakiin Ukraine inaga reeb waa cunsuriyiinee.

Alpha Blondy;971818 wrote: ^ you're a foul little creature. why are you attacking my friend? :mad: i might show him these pictures, you know..... ''inaar sawiro kuu eeg ayaan internet kaa soo heley'' . this way, we'll find out the identity of Caano Geel because they're probably facebook friends, then i'll post caano's pics on-line and we'll speculate on the asymmetrics of his facial profile. Please do it;)

Carafaat;971610 wrote: Somalilands Parliament has been silenced with hard currency. Dont expect to much from them. The real opposition asking question are to be found outside Parliament. I believe our national parliament needs an urgent reform because of the way elections are scheduled in Somaliland. At the moment we have too many dead wood MPs from the dissolved UDUB party whose only agenda is to fill their pockets and a speaker who is preoccupied with his own presidential ambitions. For Somaliland to have an effective parliament, we need to conduct the local elections and the parliamentary elections immediately one after the other. In that way, the defeated parties will loose all their existing seats in the parliament and the new victorious parties would have their MPs in the parliament to form an effective and real check and balance to the executive branch of our political system. Also the speaker should be banned from running for any other political job.

Dr_Osman;971592 wrote: It's funny when you see SOL make no comments, it usually mean baqdin because they are in absolute shock that Puntland will pull it off and be the only cement plant in the nation. No discounts for you your shisheeye not a citizen Ditoore are you aware that Somaliland's business community has enough cash and the desire to construct a major cement plant in Berbera but the only thing stopping them is a long running clan dispute and rivalry? http://somalilandpress.com/we-need-an-independent-commission-for-the-sahel-cement-dispute-26919

Carafaat;971601 wrote: Mahamed Abdullahi Omer needs to clarify the issue regarding the Air Control, before jumping to other issues. Besides he aint the FM, why is he still talking? That is true. Why is he not brought before the parliament for questioning?

Haatu;971524 wrote: Where I come from the average house price is £10,000-£20,000 alhamdulilah. These prices (both Xamar and Hargaysa) are beyond ridiculous. And I used to think we had it bad. Those prices are indeed ridiculous. It is the symptoms of a false and an unsustainable economy. There is nothing around Hargaysa but sand and stones (building material) and an open space. The reason why the property prices are so high in that chaotic city is because of the following: 1. Lack of industries in the country which manufacture building materials locals. As a result of this, everything other than sand and stones is imported. 2. Taxes levies on the imported material at the Berbera port. 3. Lack of infrastructure such as roads, highways, and bridges, water reservoirs, and power plants in the country which makes it difficult for the people settle in the commuter distance villages around major cities. 4. The lack of infrastructure and the nomadic nature of our society prevents the construction of countryside properties such as farm houses hence forcing people to move to the cities for permanent settlement. 5. Lack of regulations and government policy 6. The dearth of other investment alternatives for people to save and invest their cash. 7. And many, many more reasons.

Maasha Allah, this is a good news ditoore. I like the positive competition you are having with XX. It is much better than some other tribal stuff we see in SOL.

Tillamook;971472 wrote: What a sad thing to brag about.. I always knew it would be to good to be true for you guys to do something tangible about your problem without resorting to some sort of fingerpointing. Tallaabo, qawdhanyada macquulka ah, oo cagliga u saaxiibka ah, inaad ka mid ahayd baan ku mooday laakin, it wasn't meant to be:D it baffles the mind that you'd distinguish between women in camps of the displaced, as opposed to those women roaming the streets of somaliland.So with that disgusting mentality, the rape of any woman in somaliland is fairgame as long as said women does not live in a "refugee" camp, right? Caqli saliid macsaro waaxid! Rape against anyone is deplorable and should be condemned and stopped wherever it takes place. But what I was pointing at is the fact that the rape incidents which took place in Puntland were orchestrated to victimise our destitute and vulnerable sisters from South Somalia and were not a problem for the general population. It was selective.

At least the gangs in Hargeisa don't prey upon only the vulnerable refugees from the South but attack any woman they can find.

Carafaat;971455 wrote: Iminka waxa leedahay Somaliland wexe eheed dhul banaan ah. Oo wax nidaam ah kamee jirin, maamul, tacliin, ciidan, cafimaad, barlaman, etc haba yaratee mee leheen. Heshiiska la galeen Britishkuna been ayee eheed oo 80 sano wexe ku joogeen bug ayee eheed? His logic;)

Wiil Cusub;971463 wrote: do you belief this http://somalilandproperties.com/?cat=9 Why are they all $600? Something is not right:confused:

Tillamook;971460 wrote: What you wrote is a whole load of rubbish...even though I will cut you some slack and give you credit for finally acknowledging that pedophilia is indeed a pervasive problem in your neck of the woods, but unfortunately you still want to sugarcoat the problem by making cheap statements like "the problem is being documented and being dealt with by the so-called progressive and sophisticated society", yet we don't see anyone in somaliland that has been brought before a court of law and where such crimes have been punished. In fact, the opposite is taking place, where the government is doing its very best to pretend that this is a non-issue. There's a saying that goes some where along the lines of, "put up or shut up!". Marka, the government of somaliland should show us that they indeed take this problem seriously by simply prosecuting the men who commit these hedeous crimes, instead of relying on the so-called "sophistication" of your society! NAIROBI, 16 December 2009 (IRIN) - The number of reported rapes in camps for internally displaced persons (IDPs) in Bosasso, in Somalia's self-declared autonomous region of Puntland, is increasing and rape has become "a major problem", says a civil society source. "We are seeing more and more women who have been raped in the displaced camps," said Hawa Ali Jama, of We Are Women Activists (WAWA), an NGO. "We have recorded 30 women raped in October 2009 and 45 in November,” she said. These numbers did not reflect the actual number of raped women, because many did not report it, she said, for two reasons. First, the family may not want the case to be reported "because they are afraid that it will reflect badly on them". Second, the woman may be afraid the perpetrator may come back and harm her or her family. Jama said there were at least 24 IDP camps in Bosasso and rape cases had been reported in most. She said rapes were committed either by men from the host community or other IDPs. Among the IDPs there were men who took a fancy to a girl and wanted to marry her but if they were rejected, “he may return at night to rape her; he will then be forced to marry her, according to tradition. That was his aim all along." Unsafe haven Many of the displaced fled violence in the south, particularly the Somali capital, Mogadishu. Ambro (not her real name) came to Bosasso, the commercial capital of Puntland, in 2005, seeking a safe haven for her family. A month ago her teenage daughter was attacked near the IDP camp that is their new home in Bosasso while Ambro was out finding work in the town. "It was around 11:30am when a young man raped my girl," the 35-year-old mother of five said. "He tied her up and then raped her." By the time the mother returned she found her daughter bleeding. Photo: Wikimedia Commons WAWA staff took her to the doctor. "She is recovering now but it is hard for a young girl to recover from something like this," said Ambro. “I never thought it would happen here. It was for fear of something like this happening that I fled Mogadishu," she explained. "It seems no place is safe for us.” Breaking the silence In the same month and in the same IDP camp two men raped a young girl. "These people survive on very little and they supplement it with work they find in the town. Now they are afraid that when they go to find work they may get raped," Jama said, adding that it was becoming one of the biggest security concerns for the women. Jama said her group and others working with the displaced had started a campaign to encourage women to report cases of rape. "We have volunteers in the camps who interact with the women and encourage them to come forward." Her group was providing counselling and medical help. The authorities are also taking the matter more seriously. "We have a very good relationship with the local authorities and once we identify the culprit they are arrested and taken to court." The volunteers and staff stay with the survivors throughout the process. "We are there with them until the rapist is brought to court and convicted. This has encouraged more women to come forward," she said. A campaign of awareness to encourage families to abandon the tradition of hiding rape cases has helped to "break the silence”, she said. "We will keep fighting until we put a stop to these violations," said Jama. Ambro said she did not know what she would do now. "I cannot take my children back to Mogadishu, because it is not safe but I don’t feel safe here either. At least here I have the support of the people like WAWA." ah/mw http://www.irinnews.org/report/87453/somalia-rape-a-major-problem-for-bosasso-idps

Tillamook;971373 wrote: ^ Oh, Xaaji, why do you sound so bitter? Is it the blunt straightforwardness of my rebuttal that has humiliated you? I don't know why my mentioning the unfortunate epidemic taking place on Hargaysa streets would upset you so, Xaaji-- After all, it is indeed a serious problem which requires immediate attention from the Silanyo administration. Or could it be something else that pains you so? Like the visible successes of the Puntland Marine forces against the piracy problem, which of late, has become almost negligible for fewer incidences of piracy are being reported off the Puntland coastline each year thanks to the robust efforts of Mudane Faroole's administration. I only wish the same could be said of Silanyo regarding the shameful predicament you face in your neck of the woods. Saaxiib the problems of gangs and rape in Somaliland is out in the open and is being documented, analysed, and dealt with thanks to our increasingly progressive and sophisticated civil society and government institutions. No one in his or her right mind would say similar things do not take place in Puntland and elsewhere in the world, but that is where the similarities between Puntland and Somaliland end. In Somaliland we talk about our problems openly and loudly and as a result usually find effective solutions to address them but you guys have a primitive culture of sweeping them under the carpet hoping it goes away or stays there.

Safferz;971239 wrote: :mad: I have been waiting outside of your house and knocking on your gate for HOURS, I called you 113 times today but you won't answer my calls anymore, and your doorman threatened to call the police on me, calling me a "stalker." Waa ku sidee :mad::mad: This is unacceptable, waa in ninka guriga lagu dumiyo isagoo ku dhex jira:eek:

Gar_maqaate;971209 wrote: The Somali "Federal Government" does not care much for the unity of the Somali Republic. That is because their is neither a unity nor a Somali Republic. Both are in the trash heap of political history ready to be taken for recycling to safe the Somali social environment.