^This thread is about dead man. Have some decency kid.

Wow-you actually posted something that's not about Pland-what gives?

lool@Gheelle

NGONGE;776806 wrote: ^^ My hope is one borne out of verifaiable (incremental, as you like to call them) results. The twenty plus year that you use as some sort of evidence has been spent fortifying our position and building our state (does Khaatumo have twenty years?). Your hope is the result of a clan meeting where they elected what looks like three presidents. Cooks, adeer, way farabatiin. (ila guurmaan ku laha wax iga maqaal oo 'bet on a winning horse'? Wax maqal dee). If we go by your argument, it seems there's no beginning to any challenge or people that might oppose Somaliland on basis of self-determination. The twenty plus years leaves no chance for other exploit or legitimately oppose. This is utter arrogance or lack of respect for other people's aspirations and competency.

^You seem to be getting of this...google waryaa that's what's for.

^Actually, I was mostly laughing at the something else that came to mind when I saw the subject. It's bit xrated.

Right............

^He was levelheaded but interestingly, the average people's opinion were divergent. loool@Stallone

Of all the things to worry about, what an Arab thinks of Somalis should be last item just NGONGE winking samjamaa.

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Ngonge...unlike you the man has influence. Dr.Osman, you remind me of riwaayad where two men fight over money in case by chance money falls from the sky and lands where they are.

LOL

Waa casharo fiican dee:-) All the newlyweds crush course waaye.

I laughed when I was reading not cuz the subject being but illustration :-) The site is well crafted and not sleazy.

It would be Interesting if Siiraanyo would conform or refute Yeey's claim about secession.

Premature...

It will only matter if you conform to what society says or does.

^Having meeting with the Prime Minister so openly is seen as tacit approval from TFG in contributing to the disintegration Somaliland and will add fuel to fire in situation that's already volatile in the only part of Somalia that enjoys continues peace. Mind you, I am not justifying secessionist's own foolishness regarding their deadly misadventure in Buhoolde. Also, I think any Government should be careful in giving legitimacy to groups that have no some sort of physical presence in the regions they want to govern. There's already proliferation of maamuls with no land or people to govern.

I don't know if this sort of provocation is necessary?

Glad we agree on that.

^They were more civilized and patriotic than all the current Somali leadership not just those that claim to be represent Hiiraan.

Shacabka Hiiraan waa in ay hantiyaan fursadda maanta u dagan, iyaga oo ku xaqiijinaya maamulka ku yimaada wadahadal iyo dib u heshiisiin. Tafatirka Hiiraan Online Wednesday, January 18, 2012 Halganka bulsha kasta wuxuu maraa marxalado kala duwan oo mararka qaarkood xambaarsan isku –dhac, farafoonta iyo dagaalba; kuwaasoo ugu dambeynta bulshooyinka fahamsiiya miraha nabadda iyo xasilloonida. Sidaa daraadeed waxaan reer Hiiraan ugu baaqeynaa in aysan ka ilduufin ka mira-dhalinta fursadda ka abuurantay ka bixitaankii kooxda Al-Shabaab, kuna baraarugaan muhimadda ay leedahay midnimadu iyo lagamamaarmaanida nidaam dowladeed iyo nabad waarta oo ay ku noolaadaan dadweynaha reer Hiiraan. Waxaa laga yaabaa in loo qaato in aan taageereyno fikirka labada wado (Dual Track) ee ay ku baaqdo dowladda Mareykanka, ama fikirka xambaarsan in maamulka hoos laga soo dhiso (Bottom UP Approach), amaba nalaku eedeeyo u janjeeridda siyaasadda gurracan ee gobolo u kala qoqobidda dalka Soomaaliyeed, kuwaas oo ka dhan ah ula-jeedada iyo hadafka uu leeyahay faaladan. Waxay faaladani xambaarsantahay baaq midnimada Soomaaliyeed iyo baraarujin gaar ahaaneed oo ah in aan shacabka reer Hiiraan ka il duufin ku habsadashada iyo fursadda iyo iftiinka nabadeed oo dhidiba adag u noqon kara nabad waarta oo Soomaali oo dhan gaarta. Guji

First Somali President Aden Abdulle Osman (1), First Somali Prime Minister Abdullahi Isse Mohamud (2) and the first offical opposition leader Sheikh Abli Jumale Barale

Residents of Hiiraan must capitalize this window of opportunity by holding a reconciliation conference to establish an administration Hiiraan Online Editorial Tuesday, January 17, 2012 Peace can only be understood as a phase in a conflict cycle and as a long-term process with a set of challenges. It is in this context that we urge the people of the Hiiraan region to capitalize the current opportunity created by the withdrawal of Al-Shabab from the city of Beletwein and unite around the need to establish lasting security and a system of governance for the people of Hiiraan. We understand that people may label us of supporting the notion of dual–track approach as promoted by the USA, or the concept of building from the bottom up or even the cynics may accuse us of breaking up the nation or creating more fiefdoms; a far-fetched of what this editorial piece aims to achieve. In contrast, this editorial piece supports the unity of Somalia and in that spirit of unity urges the people of Hiiraan to consolidate peace by capitalizing this window of opportunity and to set the foundation for a process that will pave the way for durable peace throughout the country, and that is what this editorial piece is striving to achieve and not to further complicate the current crises in Somalia by not following suite the tsunami of emerging states. Arguably, the dual-track policy is intended to serve the interest of the USA and not the Somali interest and will adversely affect the Somali conflict and consequently will prolong the Somali crisis continue