I note this again this, Somalis had organized themselves into political parties before Somaliland. It's not matter if we can, it's matter if we should at the moment when the environment does not lend itself to such endeavor. I even say Puntland should stop flirting with this idea as the proper institutions are not in place and the mentality of the strong man remains potent. We need genuine reconciliation, a good selected leaders, and uninterrupted peace that could help us elevate poverty and ignorance. Any democratization process should be slow and methodical but it needs to be preceded by prolonged stability with robust economy and social development with the right men at the helm. And I hope secessionists understand citizens need jobs and social advancement. Democracy can't satisfy empty stomach and idle body. This will be the test for Somaliland.

Ace. See that's your problem, I didn't say I have exclusive right to anything, in fact you can refer yourself to as Somali but the fact remains Somalia is Somali and vice verse, that doesn't mean others are not. You want a political divorce to reshape Somali identity in order to validate your decision, not gonna happen mate. Maybe, next you will accuse Americans of misappropriating America from the Americas. The 100% thing would be true if you drop the phantom Arab Sheikh story that says you came to our shores many centuries ago and married a local gal:D

Safferz.I like when I deal with landers on one one in real life. They are calmer and much more honest, and funnier. And their views on Somaliland and its politics is far more in line with reality. There's one thing about all Somalis, iskuma ceeb qariyaan hence we are no mystery to each other! In fairness to Ace and others, nobody likes to be called Soomaalidiid.His attempt here is a way to neutralize that term:D I have seen Haabsade in video calling a someone from Khaatamu I think Somalilandiid, it didn't come out naturally, his first natural answer was Soomaalidiid lol. Ace. You have managed to hijack your own thread. Your attempt at preaching or was it boasting has failed miserably. Be nice and call us Somalis, so we can go on talking about what's wrong with Somalia:D

Ain't politics a b!tch dheh:) Is it an accident it's just a secessionist complaining this matter, yet to see a person from Jabouti, NFD and Somaligalbeed mourning about the interchangeability of the words Somali and Somalia.

People and the world perfectly understand one is talking Somalia when you hear the word Somali unless you want to share the honors of being Somali pirate, Somali warlord, Somali famine or Somali Government. I understand you are attempting to redefine Somali identity but you are going about it the wrong way, never tell someone else what to call themselves, t you can however exert them a little bit to call you what you want to be called, and as Somalis, we have been respectful enough to call Soomaleen or Somalilander. It's matter of common courtesy that doesn't need to be politicized. As for Somaliland, my views on it has been established, we will leave there since neither of us will be convinced otherwise.

To say my views on Somaliland is a smear campaign and your views on Somalia as valid doesn't set the stage for anything.If this will be your line of argument, than my friend you are nothing but hateful secessionist who would like to see the complete eradication of other Somalis, not helpful ain't? so let's be sane mate. As for the second thing, you can't dictate what people call themselves no more than I can dictate what you choose to call yourself. I am Somali and Somalia represents Somalis, if you have issue with that, that's fine but I will not be called Somalian just you could create new nationality and redefine Somali identity.

It seems your whole argument is to accommodate an agenda that you would like to see materialize, everything from following the 'Somaliland' example of politics,and up to redefining Somali nationality and ethnicity. If you want to call your self a Somalilander, by all means but I am Somali and Somalia is my country. As for politics, Somaliland is run by one family clan, a hardly model for diverse Southern Somalia with competing interests. Somalia needs to find its own system. Democracy might not be in the cards as of yet. Uneducated people with no sense civic responsibility and politics is a bad mix. We need to be realistic!

Maaddeey;954912 wrote: Is Madoobe any better, Che?. No. Classified why? You like Ethiopian lackey better than Kenyan one?

I don't really see why equating all Somalis with Somalia bothers you. Multiparty system is not new to Somalis and will not likely solve Somalia's problems, it will be a long time before we get there. What we lack is genuine reconciliation, acceptance of crimes committed, and some justice.

If Barre is the best that the Government can offer, then God help us.

A government supporting a warlord, what could go wrong?

Disarmed by who?

Alright folks, we got a blondie.....go n look more black people.

^Why are you looking at their feet and nails honky?

There's no such thing as a curse. We just allowed !diots to lead us. Ignorance and poverty is the real problem.

All n none.

Freedom;775434 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Somalia is burning, Puntland is sinking and your Sol just got tooken, today is a good day lol. I wonder where's this !diot? Oodweyne revived this thread from the dead.

Oodweyne, If few boys from a small town can chase away your 'army', than I am sure these boys from Ximan can handle their business. Malistar. Where's your Somali arrogance, just say you are best. Don't compare your self to anyone.haha

Young Indhacade hahaha

Oodweyne has an affliction called MJinitis.

Not really solution ain't it?

And the problem is still there.

No one got lynched last night?

As long as people agree with me, it should all be okay:)

Xaaji Xunjuf;953813 wrote: Lol is this guy serious Mr lax probably wrote himself haha