Tallaabo. You do realize there is no legal basis on which Somaliland can make argument in regards to border demarcation with Somali proper. The only you could secure "your border" is through violence; a fact that will create more animosity among people of the region and will make Somaliland see belligerent, irresponsible entity.

Khayr. I am not defending any system, American or otherwise. You asked what Solers consider modern norms to be, I simply gave you my opinion. If you want to criticize American and Western norms and values, your question should be simply about that instead of using our answers as springboard to your real questions?

Freedom from state sponsored violence, access to basic education, economic opportunities, a fair judiciary, responsible capitalism and the right to worship any religion of my choosing. And importantly the protection and advancement of minority rights!

FEYSAL WARAABE: “Beesha Caalamku waxba kuma qasbi karaan Somaliland” http://hiiraan.com/news/2014/Aug/wararka_maanta29-48086.htm

Dowladda Soomaaliya oo Shaacisay in ay ka xun tahay Weerarkii Saax-dheer Jimco, Ogoosto 29, 2014 (HOL) — Dowladda Somalia ayaa sheegtay inay ka xun tahay weerarkii ay ciidamada Somaliland ku qabsadeen deegaanka Saaxdheer ee gobolka Sool, iyadoo ku baaqday in la joojiyo colaadaha iyo dhiigga daadanaya. Wasiirka warfaafinta Soomaaliya, Mustaf Sheikh Cali Dhuxulow ayaa ka warbixiyey mowqofka dowladda federaalka ee ku aaddan weerarkii shalay ka dhacay deegaanka Saaxdheer. “Dowladda federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya waxay ka xun tahay weerarkii hubeysanaa ee ka dhacay deegaanka Saaxdheer, kaasoo geystay khasaare isugu jira naf iyo maalba,” ayuu yiri Dhuxuloow. Sidoo kale, wasiirka oo hadlakiisa sii wata ayaa yiri. "Dowladdu waxay ku baaqeysaa in la joojiyo dagaalka lagana dhowrsado wax walba oo colaadda sii hurinaya. Dowladdu waxay aamminsan tahay inay dadku xor u yihiin xaqna u leeyihiin inay si nabadgelyo ah isku imaadyo u samaysan karaan, sidaa darteed waxaan ku baaqaynaa in dadkii lagu qabtay Saax-dheer lasii daayo xuriyaddoodana loosoo celiyo si ay arrintaasi ugu adeegto nabadda iyo isku soo dhawaanshaha.” Wasiirka ayaan hadalkiisa ku sheegin in ciidamada laga saaro deegaankaas oo shalay ay la wareegeen ciidamada Somaliland, halka warbixin ay soo saareen Qaramada Midoobay, Midowga Yurub iyo Mareykanka lagu sheegay in si dhaqso ah ciidamada hubeysan looga saaro deegaanka Saaxdheer. “Soomaaliya waxay maanta u baahan tahay nabadgalyo, xasillooni iyo horumar taasoo ku imaan karta is-xaq-dhowrka, is-faham iyo wadahadalna lagu xalliyo wixii is af-garanwaa ah ee jira,” ayuu wasiirku hadalkiisa kusoo gabagabeeyay. Dhanka kale, Somaliland ayaa sheegtay in sababtii ay u weerartay tuulada Saaxdheer ay ahayd iyadoo hub laga keenay Muqdisho iyo Kismaayo halkaa la geeyay, taasoo ay ku tilmaameen mid xadgudub ku ah maamulkooda. Maxamed X. Xuseen, Hiiraan Online maxuseen@hiiraan.com Muqdisho, Soomaaliya

Dowladda Soomaaliya oo Shaacisay in ay ka xun tahay Weerarkii Saax-dheer Jimco, Ogoosto 29, 2014 (HOL) — Dowladda Somalia ayaa sheegtay inay ka xun tahay weerarkii ay ciidamada Somaliland ku qabsadeen deegaanka Saaxdheer ee gobolka Sool, iyadoo ku baaqday in la joojiyo colaadaha iyo dhiigga daadanaya. Wasiirka warfaafinta Soomaaliya, Mustaf Sheikh Cali Dhuxulow ayaa ka warbixiyey mowqofka dowladda federaalka ee ku aaddan weerarkii shalay ka dhacay deegaanka Saaxdheer. “Dowladda federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya waxay ka xun tahay weerarkii hubeysanaa ee ka dhacay deegaanka Saaxdheer, kaasoo geystay khasaare isugu jira naf iyo maalba,” ayuu yiri Dhuxuloow. Sidoo kale, wasiirka oo hadlakiisa sii wata ayaa yiri. "Dowladdu waxay ku baaqeysaa in la joojiyo dagaalka lagana dhowrsado wax walba oo colaadda sii hurinaya. Dowladdu waxay aamminsan tahay inay dadku xor u yihiin xaqna u leeyihiin inay si nabadgelyo ah isku imaadyo u samaysan karaan, sidaa darteed waxaan ku baaqaynaa in dadkii lagu qabtay Saax-dheer lasii daayo xuriyaddoodana loosoo celiyo si ay arrintaasi ugu adeegto nabadda iyo isku soo dhawaanshaha.” Wasiirka ayaan hadalkiisa ku sheegin in ciidamada laga saaro deegaankaas oo shalay ay la wareegeen ciidamada Somaliland, halka warbixin ay soo saareen Qaramada Midoobay, Midowga Yurub iyo Mareykanka lagu sheegay in si dhaqso ah ciidamada hubeysan looga saaro deegaanka Saaxdheer. “Soomaaliya waxay maanta u baahan tahay nabadgalyo, xasillooni iyo horumar taasoo ku imaan karta is-xaq-dhowrka, is-faham iyo wadahadalna lagu xalliyo wixii is af-garanwaa ah ee jira,” ayuu wasiirku hadalkiisa kusoo gabagabeeyay. Dhanka kale, Somaliland ayaa sheegtay in sababtii ay u weerartay tuulada Saaxdheer ay ahayd iyadoo hub laga keenay Muqdisho iyo Kismaayo halkaa la geeyay, taasoo ay ku tilmaameen mid xadgudub ku ah maamulkooda. Maxamed X. Xuseen, Hiiraan Online maxuseen@hiiraan.com Muqdisho, Soomaaliya

U.S. Special Representative for Somalia, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General for Somalia, and EU Ambassador to Somalia Appeal for All Armed Forces to Withdraw from Saaxdheer, Sool Region 29 August 2014 – United States Representative for Somalia James P. McAnulty, UN Special Representative for Somalia Nicholas Kay and European Union Ambassador Michele Cervone d’Urso express profound concern about the deployment of armed forces and the resultant conflict within Saaxdheer, Sool Region. We call for the immediate withdrawal of forces from Saaxdheer, and the immediate release of all prisoners. We urge all parties to refrain from violence and make concerted efforts to de-escalate and resolve differences through peaceful means and dialogue. All parties should make immediate efforts to demonstrate genuine willingness to create the conditions necessary for long-term and durable stability in the region. The U.S. Special Representative, the UN Special Representative and the EU Ambassador urge all parties in the affected region to engage peacefully and find constructive ways to address jointly the drivers of conflict. They express their commitment to help all parties to seek compromise and work towards durable peace and stability in the region. * * * * * * * * * * Wakiilka Gaarka ah ee Dowladda Mareykanka u Qaabilsan Soomaaliya, Ergayga Gaarka ah ee Xogahayaha Guud ee Qaramada Midoobay u Qaabilsan Soomaaliya iyo Safiirka Midowga Yurub ee Soomaaliya ayaa ka Codsaday dhammaan Ciidamada Hubaysan in ay ka Baxaan Saaxdheer ee gobolka Sool 29 August 2014 – Wakiilka dowladda Mareykanka u qaabilsan Soomaaliya James P. McAnulty, Ergayga gaarka ee Qaramada Midoobay u qaabilsan Soomaaliya Nicholas Kay iyo Safiirka Midowga Yurub u qaabilsan Soomaaliya Michel Cervoned’Urso ayaa walaac weyn ka muujiyey ciidamada hubaysan ee la geeyey Saaxdheer gobolka Sool iyo khilaafka ka dhashay. “Waxaan ku baaqeynaa in si degdeg ah dib looga saaro ciidamada hubaysan Saaxdheer, iyo in si degdeg ah loo sii daayo maxaabiista la haysto. Waxaan ku boorineynaa dhammaan qaybaha in ay ka waantoobaan rabshado iyo in ay sameeyaan dedaal wadajir ah si loo dajiyo, looguna xalliyo khilaafka nidaam wadahadal oo nabadeed. Dhammaan qaybaha waa in ay si degdeg ah u sameeyaan dedaalo muujinayo doonis dhab oo ku aadan abuuritaanka xaalad muhiim u ah daganaansho waarto oo ka dhacda gobolka.” Wakiilka gaarka ah ee dowladda Mareykanka, Ergayga gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobay iyo safiirka Midowga Yurub waxa ay ku boorinayaan maamulka Soomaaliland iyo dadka dagan gobolka xaaladahaan ay saameysay in ay isku howlaan waddo nabadeed oo wax dhisaysa si qaab wadajir ah meesha looga saaro khilaafka. Waxay muujinayaan sida ay uga go’an tahay in ay gacan ka siiyaan dhammaan qaybaha in ay raadiyaan xeer-jajab iyo in laga shaqeeyo nabad iyo daganaansho waarta oo ka hirgasha gobolka http://www.unsom.unmissions.org/Default.aspx?tabid=6254&ctl=Details&mid=9770&ItemID=30565&language=en-US

Joint Press Release appealing for all armed forces to withdraw from Saaxdheer, Sool Region U.S. Special Representative for Somalia, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General for Somalia, and EU Ambassador to Somalia Appeal for All Armed Forces to Withdraw from Saaxdheer, Sool Region 29 August 2014 - United States Representative for Somalia James P. McAnulty, UN Special Representative for Somalia Nicholas Kay and European Union Ambassador Michele Cervone d'Urso express profound concern about the deployment of armed forces and the resultant conflict within Saaxdheer, Sool Region. We call for the immediate withdrawal of forces from Saaxdheer, and the immediate release of all prisoners. We urge all parties to refrain from violence and make concerted efforts to de-escalate and resolve differences through peaceful means and dialogue. All parties should make immediate efforts to demonstrate genuine willingness to create the conditions necessary for long-term and durable stability in the region. The U.S. Special Representative, the UN Special Representative and the EU Ambassador urge all parties in the affected region to engage peacefully and find constructive ways to address jointly the drivers of conflict. They express their commitment to help all parties to seek compromise and work towards durable peace and stability in the region. * * * * * * * * * * Wakiilka Gaarka ah ee Dowladda Mareykanka u Qaabilsan Soomaaliya, Ergayga Gaarka ah ee Xogahayaha Guud ee Qaramada Midoobay u Qaabilsan Soomaaliya iyo Safiirka Midowga Yurub ee Soomaaliya ayaa ka Codsaday dhammaan Ciidamada Hubaysan in ay ka Baxaan Saaxdheer ee gobolka Sool 29 August 2014 - Wakiilka dowladda Mareykanka u qaabilsan Soomaaliya James P. McAnulty, Ergayga gaarka ee Qaramada Midoobay u qaabilsan Soomaaliya Nicholas Kay iyo Safiirka Midowga Yurub u qaabilsan Soomaaliya Michel Cervoned'Urso ayaa walaac weyn ka muujiyey ciidamada hubaysan ee la geeyey Saaxdheer gobolka Sool iyo khilaafka ka dhashay. “Waxaan ku baaqeynaa in si degdeg ah dib looga saaro ciidamada hubaysan Saaxdheer, iyo in si degdeg ah loo sii daayo maxaabiista la haysto. Waxaan ku boorineynaa dhammaan qaybaha in ay ka waantoobaan rabshado iyo in ay sameeyaan dedaal wadajir ah si loo dajiyo, looguna xalliyo khilaafka nidaam wadahadal oo nabadeed. Dhammaan qaybaha waa in ay si degdeg ah u sameeyaan dedaalo muujinayo doonis dhab oo ku aadan abuuritaanka xaalad muhiim u ah daganaansho waarto oo ka dhacda gobolka.” Wakiilka gaarka ah ee dowladda Mareykanka, Ergayga gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobay iyo safiirka Midowga Yurub waxa ay ku boorinayaan maamulka Soomaaliland iyo dadka dagan gobolka xaaladahaan ay saameysay in ay isku howlaan waddo nabadeed oo wax dhisaysa si qaab wadajir ah meesha looga saaro khilaafka. Waxay muujinayaan sida ay uga go’an tahay in ay gacan ka siiyaan dhammaan qaybaha in ay raadiyaan xeer-jajab iyo in laga shaqeeyo nabad iyo daganaansho waarta oo ka hirgasha gobolka http://www.unsom.unmissions.org/Default.aspx?tabid=6254&ctl=Details&mid=9770&ItemID=30565&language=en-US

Wadaayow I have no local connections!

Galbeedi. Somaliland did attack Buhoodle! And Somaliland might be stronger than tribal militias but locals always prevail. Federal State or not, the reality is the fate of the Somali peninsula will be determined through qabil politics. Somaliland might see itself as country but the inhabitants are simply loyal to their clans. I think we should be honest with ourselves and simply accept that,

When I checked it today, the front page said it was hacked by Turkish hackers.

Worthy reading article, bit long http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/friends-israel

I thought it was five with two to the head.

I concur Tillamook, it's Puntland's version. Now, who are the rednecks of Pland that will be shoping here?

This guy is being held hostage hehe

SOMALIA: Speaker Jawari hails MPs’ efforts to mediate between FG and Puntland Mogadishu (RBC) The Speaker of Somalia’s Federal Parliament Mohamed Osman Jawari has hailed the efforts led by Members of the House to mediate between the Federal Government of Somalia and Puntland to end the rift within. In a Press Statement released on Sunday, Speaker Jawari strongly noted that the mediation initiative led by the parliamentarians hailing from Puntland was inline with the goodness and the interest of the nation as he encouraged for its continuation. “As speaker and the chairperson of the House of People of Somalia, I welcome and commend the role played by members of the house to find an end for the small rift and diversity of views emerged between the Federal Government and Puntland.” the statement read. The Speaker added that in accordance with article 61 of the Provisional Constitution, the legislators while fulfilling their responsibilities shall be guided by the best interests of the nation as a whole. “I support and encourage the utmost efforts done by these legislators to find solution for the diversities of views between the FG and the Puntland State of Somalia.” he added. The Speaker of the Parliament gave 30 days ultimatum to end the mediation and bring a better solution for the crisis that emerged from the government in Mogadishu and the Puntland region as a member state. The Speaker’s press release came a day after MPs from Puntland who met with President Abdiweli Gaas in Garowe returned back to Mogadishu. RBC Radio http://www.raxanreeb.com/2014/08/somalia-speaker-jawari-hails-mps-efforts-to-mediate-between-fg-and-puntland/

SSC Muhajahid Xtoosiye We are waiting for Khatumo Mujahid Xtoosiye.

<cite> @HawdMan said:</cite> Federalism Siyadism, Qabilism, Xaasidnimo , one way or another it all comes from the same place the place that destroyed the somali people,nation and dignity the beasts from east And until somali people wake up elimate this threat they will never see peace. Seek therapy pronto!

Dowladda faderaalka Soomaaliya oo soo dhaweysay baaqi ka soo baxay Puntland Muqdisho [RBC Radio] War qoraal ah ooo ka soo baxay xafiiska Wasiirka Warfaafinta xukumada Federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya ayaa lagu sheegey in dowlada dhexe ee Soomaaliya ay soo dhaweyneyso baaqii ka soo baxay dowladda Puntland ee ahaa in wada xaajood lagu dhameeyo waxkasta oo tabasho ah. War saxaafadeedka oo ku sixiixnaa Wasiirka Warfaafinta mudane Mustafa sheekh Cali Dhuxulow ayaa u qornaa sida atan. “Dowlada Federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya waa dowlad aaminsan in kala duwanaanshaha lagu xaliyo mabda’a ah wadatashi iyo wadaxaajood” “ayadoo laga amba qaadayo ayaa dowladu waxaa ay soo dhaweynaysaa wada hadalka ay ku baaday dowlad goboleedka Puntland si looga gaaro wixii tabosho ah is faham waa ah ee jira” ayuu yiri Wasiirka Warfaafinta Soomaaliya. Dowlada Federalka ah ee Soomaaliya waxaa ay cadaynaysaa in ay diyaar u tahay in wada hadalkaasi la galo xili iyo goor kasta ayadoo wixii farqi ah ee jira aan dhexdeyna xalisano. Dowladu waxay qiraysaa in dowlada Puntland ay ahmiyada weyn ugu fadhiso dowlada dhexe ee Soomaaliya waxayna dowlada Federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya garowsantahay mas’uuliyada ka saran sare u qaadida xasiloonida,horumarka, iyo degnaanshaha deegaanada Puntland iyo guud ahaan Soomaaliya. Warkan ayaa ku soo aadaya xilli ay Puntland horay u sheegtay inay xiriirkii u jartay dowladda faderaalka Soomaaliya. ___ RBC Radio http://somali.raxanreeb.com/2014/08/dowladda-faderaalka-soomaaliya-oo-soo-dhaweysay-baaqi-ka-soo-baxay-puntland/

Aidid was a hothead, he met his end at the hands of a moryaan. Mindless Violence, which unfortunately Somalis associate with geesinimo, is not strength