Edo is in love with a Puntlander, maybe its Morgan I hear he was a sharp looking dude when he was young. Maybe she remebers those days way back when she was working for Abe Siyad.

LOL, How sad Otali. How truly sad, for Kismayu is not yours neither is Xamar, they belong to veryone, where built by every Somali. Howver your responsability lies with your kin, but alas I hear you guys have been bankrupted by the ever grwoing list of warlords. We hope dont we for Ato will open a University in Hobyo or Yusuf Inda Cde will open one in Gurcail, maybe one day :rolleyes:

Had you there Otali Maybe Adeer Yusuf Inda Cade and the drug cartle could help out with the famine relief in those places. What wonders Mohamed Farah Aydeed did for the people of South Mudug and Galgaduud, how many hospitals, businesses he built for them.

Look Morgan if in Kenya or in Zaire, matters not for the people of Kimsayu will get back their homes soon insha Allah.

Caqil, Thanks for your response, Brother there is already two states in Somalia.. Puntland and Somaliland, with minor issue of SOOL and SANAG, each has its capital, parliment and formal structure. Now I agree totally with the Midland, central state..Capital either Jowhar or Bledweyne. Southern Mudug, Galgaduud, Hiiraan, Middle Shabbele etc. Banadir with the Capitla Mogadishu should have special status. The south is where the dilema lies, should there be a Southwestern state as the RRA envisaged or should there be two states? 1)Puntland State 2}Somaliland state 3)Central/Midland State 4)Southern state- one or two states ....Banadir and Bajuni Island special status. This is the best formula, each state will have good population size, natural assets, economic centres.

A Juba federal state of Somalia, which will be made up of Gedo, Lower & Middle Juba. Capital Kismayu. Power sharing like this, the President will be from Gedo.... The Vice President will be from Afmadow- THIS CAN BE ROTATED The other post of the executive will go to other clans of the region and not to the above mentioned two. A cabinet of say no more than 6. A parliment of 40, 10 from every state. A reserved 10 for minority clans [those without guns] The Mayour of Kimsayu will be from, Morgans clan. .................

Horn, the article is not what Smith said, its what Morgan said. You know I am not Morgan and I did not writte the article. You also know I want peace in Gedo, Puntland and every Somali inhabited land, and the world. You also might have understood by now that I cant stand for oppresion, if Puntland attacked Baraxley then I am no longer a supporter. For me the Morgan Kimsayu issue is one of people reclaiming the right to love in their twon with dignity, if Morgans troops call for the killing or for dehumanising members of any clan in Kismayu, then I will not support Morgan. Horn, you know I dont hate your sub-clan as I know you dont hate my sub-clan.

I would rather have "Puntlanders", Og's, Bravanes, Markites, Muqdishoans, Cabudwaqians, Hargeisawis, and all other Somalis living side by side peace in Kismayo and all of Somalia then continue in this clan hatred thats raging everywhere. Nuff said, Horn

Fannaan u dhashay dalka Ingiriiska oo booqasho ku joogey Puntland oo maanta ka dhoofay Boosaaso Boosaaso - 23.September.2004 Wafdigan oo kakoobnaa lix qof oo dhammaantood u dhashay dalka Ingiriiska uuna horkacayay fanaanka weyn ee caanka ah ee reer Britain, Bob Goldef oo booqanayey Pundtland muddo 5 cisho ah ayaa saaka ka dhoofay garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalada Boosaaso. Wafdigan ayaa waxay Puntland u yimaaddeen u kuur gelidda xaaladda abaareed ee ka jirta deegaanka, meelihii ay booqdeenna marka laga reebo magaalada Boosaaso oo xarun u ahayd waxaa ka mid ahaa, magaalada Laas Qoray iyo tuulada Laag. Intii ay booqashadooda ku jireen wafdigani ayaa waxaa meelihii ay mareen ee ay idha indheeyeen waxaa ka mid ahayd, Dekedda magaalada Boosaaso, Xeryaha qaxootiga, sida Tuula ****** iyo Tuula Ajuuraan, iyo meelo kale. Sidoo kale waxay wafdigani booqdeen magaalada xeebta ah ee Laas Qoray, iyadoo ay booqashadooda ku weheliyeen, mas’uuliyiin ka tirsan maamul goboleedka Puntland oo ay ka mid ahaayeen, guddoomiye kuxigeenka 2-aad ee gobolka Bari, Khalar Ismaaciil Buncun iyo taliyaha qaybta booliiska gobolka Bari, Col. Caydiid Axmed Nuur oo isagu u xil saarnaa dhinaca nabadgelyada waxaana ay sheegeen in halkaasi si diirran loogu soo dhoweeyey. Wafdigan ajnebiga ah oo uu hor kacayey fannaanka caanka ah ee Bob Goldof ayaa intii uusan ka dhoofin garoonka Boosaaso, sagaalkii subanimo ee saaka, waxaa hadal uu saxaafadda ugu tala galay ku sheegay in maamul gobolkeedka Puntland uu yahay maamul dhab ah oo kala dambayn iyo is tixgelin leh. Mar fannaanku uu ka hadlayey xagga nabadgelyada ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in Puntland ay nabadgelyadeedu ay sugan tahay gobollada Soomaaliyana ay kaga horrayso dhinaca amaanka, isaga oo intaasi ku daray in xitaa ay Puntland mudan tahay in maal gashi lagu sameeyo. Ugu dambayntii wafdigan ayaa waxaa sii sagootiyey mas’uuliyiin ka tirsan maamulka Puntland. Heesaaga caanka ah ee Bob Goldof, oo ahaa hoggaamiyihii kooxda Green Right ee Ireland, toddobaatameeyadii iyo siddeetameeyadii ayaa isaga iyo horin ka tirsan Wariyayaal ka socda BBC-da qaybteeda TV-ga ayaa waxay booqasho ku yimaadeen Magaaladan Boosaaso. C/risaaq Cismaan Bulqaas SBC Bosaaso.

So, if WD made a reer Gaalkacyo joke, would you be offended? Yes and if he made a joke about any other place without being provoked.

Bob Geldof ".... Puntland waa dhul nabadeed aad baan ugu faraxsanahay in aan soo booqdo markale..." Bosaso :- Waxaa maanta ka ambabaxay magaalada Boosaaso wafdi uu hogaaminayo Fanaanka caanka ah ee Bob Geldof oo maalmihii lasoo dhaafay socdaal ku marayey goobo kamid ah gobalada Puntland. Bob Geldof ayaa saaka ka dhoofay Airporka Bander Qasim ee magaalada Boosaaso asagoo markaa intuusan bixin warxasaafadeed uu soo saaray ku sheegay in uu u mahadnaqayo shacabka Puntland sida diiran ay ugu soo dhaweeyeen deegaankooda. Bob Geldof oo sheegay inuu booqday intuu joogay deegaano kamid ah Puntland si ay u indho indheeyaan xaalada Abaaraha ka jira deegaanka iyo sida wax looga qaban karo. Wafdigan ayaa sidoo kale booqasho ku maray xarumaha dhaqaalaha sida Dekkada Magaalada Boosaaso iyo waliba safar ay ku tageen magaalada Laas Qorey iyo xeryaha Qaxootiga ee nawaaxiga magaalada Boosaaso. Bob Geldof ayaa si weyn ugu riyaaqay sida uu sheegay nabada ka jirta deegaanka Puntland oo uu ku sheegay dhul nabad ah oo si weyn ugu faraxsan yahay inuu markale soo booqdo. Bob Geldof ayaa horey u soo booqday deegaanka Puntland sanadihii Sagaashameeyaha asagoo markaa ku tilmaamay in deegaankani weli ka muuqdo kala danbeyn iyo xasilooni oo uu sheegay mid dhiiri galineysa inta rabta in Soomaaliya ay noqoto dhul horumara. Wafdigan ayaa horey safar ugu tagay gobolo kamid ah Dalka Itoobiya gaar ahaan dhulka Soomaalida degto iyo Oromada oo si weyn u saameeyeen abaaro dabo dheer oo looga baqayo in ay Geeska Afrika qarka u saarto macaluul baahda. Bob Geldof ayaa kamid ah dadka sida weyn ugu ololeeya mucaawinada la siiyo wadamada faqriga ah ee ka jiraan abaaraha wuxuuna horey ugu mid ahaa dadkii dhisay gurmadkii loo fidiyey shacabkii ku dhibaateysnaa dalka Itoobiya sanadihii Sideetameeyaha wakhtigii ay abaaraha xun ku dhufteen dalkaasi, gurmaadkaasi oo noqday mid caan ah ayaa la oron jiray [ Aid For Afrika iyo Life AID]. Bob Geldof ayey safarkiisa ku wehliyeen Suxufiyiin iyo filim qaadayaal ka socda Talefishinka dalka Ingiriiska ee BBCda. Maaha safarkii ugu horeeyey ee uu Bob Geldof ku yimaado magaalada Bosaaso, asagoo horey sanadkii 1993gii uu safar noocaan oo kale ah ku yimid Bosaso. Xassan Ciise HorseedNet.com Bosaso, Puntland

You are confusing Abdulahi Yusuf without "Puntland" again, a grave mistake I daresay. No its you who confuses the leader with the state. I cant go over this again, Abdullahi is our leader, we chose him, we will get rid off him. He is running for the Presidency of Somalia. If you have a problem with him its your business, just dont tell me what I am confusing, he is the sole leader of Puntland. Like it or not

US deports Yusuf Islam over claims that he supports terrorist groups By Maxine Frith Social Affairs Correspondent 23 September 2004 Yusuf Islam, the former pop singer known as Cat Stevens, was deported from the United States yesterday after immigration officials said he was on a terrorism list. Mr Islam, a Muslim convert, was on a flight to Washington when the FBI ordered the plane to divert to Maine, 600 miles away, on the grounds that he was a security threat. Mr Islam, 56, and his 21-year-old daughter were marched off the plane by FBI agents. Within hours, he was deported to Britain. A spokesman for the US Department of Homeland Security said Mr Islam was on the "watch list" because of his "known associations and financial support to organisations believed to be aiding terrorism". Officials said intelligence reports suggested he had given money to Hamas. The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) reacted angrily to the singer's deportation and warned that it could wreck the "bridge building" between the West and the Islamic world. Muhammad Abdul Bari, deputy secretary general of the MCB and a friend of Mr Islam, said: "Yusuf is known as one of the most moderate and reasonable Muslims who does a lot of work for charity and campaigns for peace. I cannot imagine how he came to be on such a list. This is a slap in the face for the bridge building between the communities which we have all been working for." Mr Islam became a Muslim in 1976. He has condemned the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks and campaigned against the war in Iraq. In 2000, he was deported from Israel after the authorities there claimed he had donated money to Hamas, allegations that he vehemently denied. Mr Islam's name is believed to have been added to the US list only recently, and friends say he was not aware that he was regarded as a security threat. He had visited the US in May with no problems, and had been allowed to board the United Airlines London to Washington flight on Tuesday by British immigration officials. His status on the list was only discovered after the flight had left Heathrow with 280 passengers on board, including members of the rock band Marillion. As the Boeing 747 neared its destination, passengers were told the flight was being diverted to Bangor, Maine, because of bad weather. Marillion's singer, Steve Hogarth, said: "After about 10 minutes, the captain made another announcement saying it was in fact an FBI security alert. I then met a security guard who said the two people escorted off were Cat Stevens and his daughter. I was stunned. He is a pacifist and a great songwriter." Mr Islam's daughter was allowed to remain, and the plane continued to Dulles airport, while he was sent back to Britain. A Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "The reasons for his detention and return are obviously a matter for the US and not for us." Mr Islam was born Steven Demetre Georgiou to a Greek Cypriot father and Swedish mother. He found fame in the 1970s with hits such as "Morning Has Broken" and "Wild World", and underwent his religious conversion after he nearly drowned while swimming off the Malibu coast in 1976. After the World Trade Centre attacks, he issued a statement saying: "No right-thinking follower of Islam could possibly condone such an action. The Koran equates the murder of one innocent person with the murder of the whole of humanity." 23 September 2004 16:34

Rather we pray that a Somali government which will curb this madness is established. Amin..

If this and that city means tribe for you, sorry to say but for me the lands of all Somalis is my birth right. Some may not like it, but this is the view that i hold to. My dear dont contradict yourself, you labeled us with Galkacyu making fun of the place. It was not a funny joke, really it wasent.

Gen Moorgan oo sheegay inuu Toddobaadyadda soo socda ka sifayn Doono Maleeshiyooyinka Isbahaysiga Dooxadda Jubba Gobaladda Jubbo Posted to the web 23-09-2004 Gen Maxamed Siciid Moorgan ayaa sheegay inuu haatan qarka u saaran yahay inuu Isbahaysiga Dooxadda Jubba ka sifeeyo Dhamaan deegaanadda Gobaladda Jubboyinka ee ay xooga ku haysteen. Moorgan oo Qadka Isgaarsiinta Sattelite-ka ah kula hadlay Warbaahinta Gudaha Somalia ayaa sheegay inuu Guulo waawayn ka gaaray Dagaalkii uu kula jiray Isba haysiga Dooxadda Jubba oo iyaga weerar ahaa. Wuxuuna sheegay inuu ka qabsaday Tikniko Dagaal iyo Saraakiil Sar Sare oo uu ka gaabsaday inuu Magacyadooda shaaciyo. Mar la waydiiyay Moorgan halka uu haatan joogo waxa uu sheegay inuu joogo meel Kismaayo u jirta 60 Kiiloo Mitir. Laakiin waxa uu diiday inuu sheego Goobta uu jooga Magaceeda iyo Jihadda ay Kismaayo ka jirto intaba. Wuxuuna ku gaabsaday Waa Sir Ciidan mana ahan inaan idiin sheego halka aan joogo. Moorgan waxa uu ballan qaaday in Toddobaadyadda soo socda uu la wareegi doono gabi ahaanba gacan ku haynta Gobaladda Jubbooyinka. Wuxuuna sheegay inuu haata nba isagu Maamulo inta badan Gobaladda Jubbooyinka. Moorgan waxa uu ku celiyay Eedayntiisii ahayd inay Isbahaysiga Dooxadda Jubba ay ka garab dagaalamayaan Maleeshiyooyin Al-Itixaad ah oo sida uu sheegay ay kala hogaaminayaan Xasan Daahir Aways iyo Yuusuf Indhacade. Wuxuuna Sheegay in Labadaasi Nin ay Xubno ka yihiin Al-Qaacidda. Cabdi Casiis M. Guuleed “Afrika†Somaali.com - Muqdisho

The saddest part about it all is that automatically the two of you make assumptions about a person because they disagree with you. It was you and Liqiye that where insulting Galkacyu, thats sad ebacuse it was youw ho brought a city into the argument. So while me and WD are proud to be from Galkacyu, you hide your place of origin, while you insult ours :mad:

Well yeah, that was obvious LOL, Rahima, I am proud to be from Galkacyu my dear, obviously you hail from some where much better like Hobyo or Gurcail

Rahima, why the attention on Puntland? Its starting to make sense to me that people here, like yourself Otali and Xarago dont really hate C/Y but hate Puntland itself. The proof is in the JUBA, youd defend the actions of the MOORIYAAN in Dhoobley and keep attacking Morgan, you seem to be cheering Somaliland on against the people of LAS ANO, in this case I understand Xarago, after all she is a Somaliland supporter. The issue of Jama Ali, he is one of our leaders, he tried to beat ina Yey, he lost, however I belive there is a place for him in Puntland's future. However right now, A/Y is the leader of the state.

Liqiye, why thank you, you got me right I am a Puntland supporter, the real leader of which is A/Yusuf, oh I am also from Galkacyu, nuff said

Wallahi this is scary..! wadh hedhe ya aqbarteyda ku siiyay, mise you have access to my info in SOL, are you the owner? Cajiib..!..... I might be

the 'Marfishes' around London. And if you want to plant a story go and see him in Equatore in Harlesden,London, and pay his bill. LOL, its true Mr Ruunkinet is one funny dude

O.G girl, background a student, from the occupied territories of Somalia, she is fair to the point but seems lost on who to support. Pro-Somaliland, pro-Puntland, pro every land Xaragoo, an old lady tough as nails, could be described as a soft Somalilander, years of experience as civil servant for Siyad Barre has given her an intricate understanding of southern Somali politics. Horn-Afrik, a nationalist, loves unity, hates being a junior member of the JVA support club, sincere in his wish to see a unitary government, a closet Puntland supporter covers this up with being anti-Yusuf. Otali, straight to the point, believes Aydeed was the man who ruled the earth, that Yuusf Inda Cade is saint, and that his clan are super-men, emotional, irrational and loves being the senior member in the JVA support club. Rahima. A nationalist, like Horn, a bit defensive but good, views herself to be a non partisan centrist, religious, however can be outspoken when she feels there is a group monopoly to an argument. WD. The man, top dog, part of the liberation front of Kismayu, battle hardened, takes no prisoners, a good ally.

Just wondering how they will give ID? Will they give every somali or you have to be from certain clan? I think you have to live there and be a resident and then apply