I see your quite the cultural critic, we should consider you for the house cultural critic and connaisseur, but how is your expertise beyond music, such as forms of other cultural forms, e.g. dance, poetry, literature. P.S. I have been voted the house ‘Niikotologist’ a few years back, so that spot is taken.

Makes much sense, and eventually they might perhaps once It’s clear Mogadishu politicians are focussed on South-Central Somalia and has no need in new States or unity for that matter, but only wants them waving the blue flag during 1 Luulyo. When can we expect to hear from Maakhir, it’s quite silent from those corners.

I am sure she lived and worked in Bosasso, but she rised and became famous in the Diaspora. We are talking about homegrown and federalist enabled talents in the likes of Maryan Mursal, Ahmed Naaji aun, Omer Dhuule. Would they be able today to rise and become huge talents in the clan based federalism of today. My take is, they would not. Not saying federalism is wrong, but it wouldn’t enable talents and excellence, specially from disenfranchised communities. Prove me wrong, Mr.Ilyria.

Miss Laki rised and became well known while in the Diaspora and not while she was in Somalia, same for Didi Naaji. So I won’t count these, talking about home grown(federalist enabled) talent and not Diaspora residing YouTubers rising through online likes and clicks.

Don’t know them and neither can judge their talents . Will let our resident urban cultural critic and Beesani spokesman (MMA) be the judge.

Let’s see, I haven’t seen any talents from Beesani community in Somalia rising up since Federalism.

That’s what you get when Business people leading the people and running the country. Not sure if the Unuka guys in Xamar and Deni are different though, maybe they have less hubris.

Have a safe trip home, and have a good rest there. FYI, both XX and Baaloxoofto left SL a long time ago and have no hopes for the country, their game is nowadays to score online points against Dblock during work breaks and defend Heego politics from other envisions enemies. And neither is planning to retire in SL, or has hope in that place but want to keep hope for tolka winning alive and who can blame them. So everyone looses at the end, even Duriyada, nevertheless we should keep hope for the Somali people alive, as our fate is intertwined and interdependent irrelevant whatever wars and structures have been adopted. Keep that in mind young fella.

I met in Dubai back in 2012, when had to leave his new home in Yemen due to another war. Don’t know where he went after that. He seemed distraught, a true Wadani with the heart at the right place, always kept hope in Somalia and Somalis. May Allah forgive him and have mercy on him.

Above all no Caqli and Rational thinking, that cup goes to Sool indeed.

Sool and Muuse did, no denying that. But where one is celebrating to have achieved their goal (Sool), another is calling for more divisions and making even more enemies (Jeegaan/Heego). So the cup for deconstructing SL has to go to Heego/Jeegaan, sorry Sool but other team is not finished yet.

May Allah have mercy on him P.S. @Ilyria, as this is still the political section, I have to ask the obvious. Do u think federalism will be able to produce or enable artist, politicians, sportsman, writers and excellent in individuals like Ahmed Naaji aun, from the Xamari, Banadiri, Barawe, Mushungulis and other reer Beesani communities?

Under Siilanyo it was all about broader Habro community, now your saying it’s every Habro for themselves, next year it’s every Abokor, Muse and Ismail for himself. Let the clanisation continue, see where one hits bottom.

HA has 3 governors while Harti has one, Grx has 20+ MPs while Harti doesn’t even have 4 or 5, let’s be frank here.

Galbeedi, was that really a request from Habro’s? Second this whole assertion that one can be independent from eachother while hosting national infrastructure is a grave mistake, we have seen how that turned out in Mogadishu with decades of infighting and internal instability beyond the scope of a sub-clan to resolve, why do u think Somalilanders can have their cake and eat it to?

And what might that be?

Many folks don’t, and many folks do oppose this war and atrocities committed by SL from the start, even opposed and spoke out against the SL conduct in Sool long before the January uprising. But clearly it’s not always reflected in the waves of social media and neither side of the spectrum has an interest in these voices to be heard. https://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/246915-siyasiintii-iyo-odayaashi-beesha-sl-oo-tageersan-ssc-kasoo-horjeeda-huunada/

The worst thing is that fragmentation is not only political, but has great socio-economic impact. It’s hardly impossible to trade, transport goods and people from one region to another with each local and regional entity erecting road blocks, making trade and mobility over land almost impossible.

The worst thing is that fragmentation is not only political, but has great socio-economic impact. It’s hardly impossible to trade, transport goods and people from one region to another with each local and regional entity erecting road blocks, making trade and mobility over land almost impossible.

The Somali region is full of local conflicts, all are complicated, many have been simmering, some frozen and then you have the real open wounds such as Elafweyn, that have past the point of being able to cool it down and don’t need much to re-ignite it. And all have one thing in common, that they can’t be solved on their own or as a stand alone conflict, without addressing the wider underlying common and shared principles and social contract of, (urban/rural) communal/ individual rights, responsibilities, relationships, ownership of commons (land, resources, power). And this needs to be addressed on the level of the broader social contract that goes beyond individual localities, regions and clans, and can be only addressed on the broader level of Somali social contract.

Back to memory lane. Unfortunately things didn’t go as hoped and wished back then, but it’s never to late as 12 years later, one has another chance to start over and do things differently.

I don’t know the agenda and scope of this Conference, but think it would be interest of the wider region if the conference would lead to outcome that calla for and develops a roadmap for a ‘Grand Regional Peace and Reconciliation Conference’ that is a genuine, inclusive, bottom-up dialogue initiative addressing the most pressing issue that Somalia’s face today, the structural and unaddressed local grievances and disputes over resources, governance and shared ownership of commons. This conference comes also at the occasion of memorialising the Borama peace conference of 1993, that has brought exactly 30 years ago the peace in the Somaliland region, and brought about the foundations for the bottom-up state building, self governance that many have reaped from, and has been followed and emulated across the wider region And perhaps this conference of the Awdal folks could memorialise and commonwealth that significant historic step, by starting and taking the lead for a positive trend and counter-intuitive thinking and going against the current dominant rationele of narrow, short sighted and reactive thinking and directions, by taking lead and re-initiating, reviving and renewing the proven approach to address and solve issues through a broad inclusive, bottom-up dialogue and reconciliation to resolve in the context of todays issues and disputes in governance, political deadlocks and local clan conflicts over resources, governance and inclusive ownership. And that way cementing, updating and strengthening what is left of the Somali Social Contract. The Awdal Clan has played a historic important and commendable role in the peace, state building and self governance of many Somali’s, and could do so again in taking lead for this role. And perhaps this could have different trajectories; a) a regional trajectory, and b) an intra and cross regional trajectory. Secondly, think it would also make sense to concretise the agenda and long wishes aims of the Awdal community to take forward the economic development through developing a roadmap, Regional Development Board and Taskforce of Technical Experts to develop the Zeila-Borama-Ethiopia Corridor Business Case and Investment strategy for the Port, Road and Infrastructure development. And furthermore develop a wider Regional Economic strategy by proposing comprehensive action plans to develop a number of key sectors for the region (mining&natural resources, cross border trade with Yemen/Djibouti/Ethiopia, Agriculture and Tourism). Just some intuitive thoughts on the upcoming Awdal Conference.

Not sure why ‘Unuka’ has a Minister in Jubbaland, while many of the clans who have significant populations in that region are not represented or underrepresented in Jubbalands Parliament and Cabinet. Second, is it my perception or are some of these States following the examples of Somaliland, Expelling Somali people to other regions, while they are not even ‘secessionist’?

On your first point, SOL is not the only place where conversations take place, as I actually started this conversation with SL politicians back in 2012 during the first Taleex Conference, that I saw as a positive and welcome development for the ‘North’ (if you are okey with that term), that a unified Khaatuma platform and voice would be an opportunity to start a genuine dialogue between Somaliland and Khaatuma. And think that some in Siilanyo circles shared this sentiment back then, and back in 2016 I wrote and appealed to many different actors to support the talks with AUN Ali Khaliif Galeydh’s, and again in 2017/2018 for Somaliland to honour the agreement with Khaatuma and start its implementation, unfortunately without much success. Second point, irrelevant if it takes months, years, decades or even a century, there will come a time or period that those who live in close territorial proximity, have shared or inter-connected interest, will need to come together and agree on how to manage their commons. Wether this is SSC and Somaliland, Somaliland and Somalia, Puntland, Makhir or Galgaduud. Nobody is going anywhere, the people will not move and neither will the land suddenly move, only thing what will change over time is people’s views, perceptions, attitudes, emotions and thus relations. So never say never.

Where is Xiriirland?