Carafaat - No one is against Unuka having Mogadishu, it's the status of capital that is in question because how can Unuka be Unuka yet have that status, I am afraid that is just not logical. So I propose along with others to have the South African system of 3 different capitals based on the branches of government. And then they can remain their Unuka forever, it's their right to be Unuka, I like Unuka, it's all about Unuka, you Unuka me?

Carafaat;878690 wrote: Give up clan federalism and everyone can share every place. That doesn't even make sense, how would that change anything discussed in this thread? I repeat again, Muqdisho has 16 districts, all governed by 1 clan, that is not a capital for all Somalis, and I am afraid your unitary bullcrap wouldn't change that 1 iota! Also may I remind you what happens to people who reclaim their properties....

oba hiloowlow;878587 wrote: somalia please the owners of Mogadishu will always be the majority in xamar and we're against keyga lihii kaadana kula liihi if you cant agree on that move the capital somewhere else. Good call my man, exactly, give the status to another town and we will built that up for all Somalis.

Carafaat;878685 wrote: Godane is the leader of Al Shabaab in Somalia not Hargeysa. Interesting, a self-proclaimed unionist is dividing up Somalia, is Hargeisa not Somalia? No, ok I see. :eek:

oba hiloowlow;878665 wrote: MMA with help of Irrigation ama filter the ocean water though its very expensive, it works sxb i remember Odaygii la dilay Ghadaffi wuxuu abuuray Geedo in the Saxaraha with irrigation dont remember the details now but it worked isla markii roobab ba ka da'ay.. Tan kale dikes mala dhisi karo miyaa preventing fatahaado? No one can afford desalination plants and you shouldn't expect irrigation to change anything since Ethiopia is putting up dams on its rivers, even the small ones like Omo_river, what makes you think Jubba and Shabelle will be spared? These terrorists ruined Somalia.

It will take decades to make up for that, and more droughts are coming..

Maxamed Axmed Caalin M/weynaha Maamulka galmudug oo Maalintii Shalay soo gaaray Mgaalada Gaalkacyo isagoo safaaxada la hadlay ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in uu isagu yahay M/weynaha Sharciga ah ee maamulkaasi Galmudug gaalkacyo uu hada ku sugan yahana uu u tagay in sida uu sheegay in uu Xaliyo Khilaafaad ka dhex taagan maamulka Galmudug. “Galmudug aniga ayaa M/weyne ka ah Cid kale oo sheegan kartaa ma jirto iyadoo aysan doorasho dhicin oo aan la iga guuleysan waxaa la iiga faa.iideystay intii aan ku mashquulsanaa Howlaha Road Mapka iyo intii aan Xanuunka ku maqnaan Marka Dadka Sheeganaya in ay yihiin M/weynaha maamulka Galmudug waa sharci Daro “ayuu yiri Maxamed Axmed Caalin. Caalin ayaa isagoo hadalkiisa sii wata waxaa uu sheegay in uu Diyaar u yahay in uu Doorasho Loogu tartamayo Xilka M/weynaha maamulka uu galo hadii looga guuleystana uu Diyaar u yahay in uu wareejiyo Xilkaasi . Maamulka Galmudug oo ka mid ah Maamulkada ka jira Dalka ee la aqoonsan yahay ayaa waxaa Mudooyinkii Dambe ka dhex taagnaa Khilaafaad iyo is qab qabsi Madaxda Sare ee maamulkaasi ah waxaana Muuqata hada in wali aan Xal laga gaarin Arintaa ay Madaxda maamulka isku hayaan

The difference is in Jubboyinka they will be given their position and included in discussions unlike in Hiiraan, that's my point to Raamsade! They aren't killed and prosecuted in Jubboyinka, and they will be an integral part of Jubbaland/Azania State of Somalia, the second state to fulfil the 2 region criteria thus technically making them the second state!

GaadhHaye;878538 wrote: Be specific in your acknowledgement with words. D o you mean “Madaxtooyada” the old General Morgan residence in Hargeisa where Siilaanyo, the SNM gang lives now? Of course what anybody who has a deep knowledge of Somali culture can glean from the article is that the SNM gang is reinvigorating itself as an offshoot of Alshabaan and Alqaacida after the recognition mission failure. The media has the sound bites, and in video, of your so-called internal minister in which, a couple of weeks ago, he invited the defeated remnants of Alshaab to Hargeisa. Naturally, they have accepted the invitation. I'm coming back - General Freaking Morgan

Raamsade;877792 wrote: As long as the locals are consulted with, those spearheading this Jubbaland entity are actually from the region and the new government in Mogadishu gives Jubbaland its blessings no one will/should be against it. But we know none of that holds true. The locals are side-stepped as evidenced by the 1001 different groups sprining up everywhere all claiming to be "true natives/owners" of Kismaayo. You have foreign government, Kenya, pushing some obscure clan outfits like Ras Kamboni to enforce their Jubbaland agenda against the expressed wishes of the new federal government in Xamar. And finally, just about everyone championing this fictitious entity, Jubbaland, including many here on SOL weren't even born in Jubbooyinka. Why should someone who wasn't born there have more say about the region's future than those who were and live there now? Hey, hey, you say you are from Hiiraan, but in Hiiraan you sideline the same people you want to have an input in Jubbaland/Azania project, and you are creating a state without their input while Ethiopians guard you, what's up with that mate?

^^Hey hey, it's leaves from green tea, not qaat

Sulleiman The Great;878481 wrote: the seccesionist are angry at us because we have been working very hard trying to re-establish the federal republic of somalia.. we cant blame them really they see their dream slowly fading away .... They see puntlanders in their fantasies and nightmares. Why though, what did we ever to secessionists, we love them but just not their secession :eek: I think they should stop thinking about us in every sentence they write.

Sulleiman The Great;878474 wrote: saxib the last time somaliland pres..somaliland time ..and the marfish-times wrote something accurate the sky was yellow...You guys arent half as good and this PR thing as the jubalanders..they know how to make non-existance factor seem plausable...keep waiting for ictifaar saxib. Look at what " SomalilandPress" posted yesterday; Reports from the self-clan (?) regional administration of Puntland in Somalia say plans are underway to deploy 2000 militants from *****ten clan to Kismayo to help the ******i militants, who recently captured the city with the support of ****** men in Kenyan army. Following an emergency cabinet meeting chaired by Puntland President, Abdirahman Mohamed Farole, the administration decided to implement the deployment plans as soon as possible. Farole told the meeting that the *****teh clan interest in Kismayo cannot be protected fully by the ****** militants in Kismayo, so the suitable way will be military involvement. The cabinet has unanimously agreed the military operation in Kismayo , which will be followed by another programme of settling thousands fof *****ten clan members from Boosaaso, Garow, Gaalkacyo and other towns to Kismayo. The *****ten clan is among the clans that claim the ownership pf Jubbaland, despite the fact their number in Kismayo city does not exceed 20 to 30 families. Jubbaland has been in crisis in since 1960, when some Somali leaders launched programs to settle their clan members in the region, and displacing the indigenous people. In 1991 the ***** clan members led by their warlords committed genocide against the indigenous people that killed thousands of people and displaced many of them. Source: Wagoshanews http://somalilandpress.com/somalia-puntland-to-send-*****ten-militants-to-kismayo-35807

walaalkis;878473 wrote: First they have to cross puntland lol , if they lucky . They would be wounded in car accident or war between sub clans going at each other . Capitalizing on Saado Cali's accident, I see. Given the anarchic hell-hole you are from I'd keep quiet about clan warfare.

Sulleiman The Great;878469 wrote: are you serious ...somaliland sites like those were the ones that posted about fake new of AY grave being vandelized, these people have no shame and to think they can even take part of punland water is laughable...have you seen "somalilands" navy ..wallahi it one single boat...last time they tried to capture lasqoraay everbody know the shame that followed..they fled with their tails between their legs...give it that propaganda is only good at the local marfish. Not just vandalized, that his bones were stolen, and as usual this obsession continues, I mean what do you expect from people who digging for fossils and ill with victim mentality? And now this, notice it's mostly the qaldaans who are posting fake news about Puntland, the obsession should stop.

Every degmo in Mogadishu is governed by 1 clan, even the mayor position, so no, it is not a capital for all Somalis, unlike Mogadishu, federal states do not purport to be for all Somalis but for all the indigenous clans. So shove your innuendos people.

It's overwhelmingly Hutu. looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Xaaji is right, and they are all in support of the Jubbaland State which will join Galmudug and Puntland States in becoming the 3rd Republic in the Federal Republic of Somalia, this will ensure a smoother end to this horrible civil war which has been going on for over 2 decades.

Current cabinet Minister of Foreign Affairs Minister of Defence Minister of Planning & International Co-operation Minister of Justice & Religious Issues Minister of Interior Affairs & National Security Minister of Finance & Treasury Minister of Women & Family Affairs Minister of Agriculture & Livestock Minister of Health Minister of Information, Posts & Telecommunication Minister of Employment, Youth & Sports Minister of Fisheries Minister of Transport & Ports Minister of Federal Constitution & Reconciliation Minister of General Affairs, Housing & Reconstruction Minister of Water,Minerals & Energy Minister of Education & Culture Minister of Trade & Industry 12 is good as in 1960. These should be state ministers Federal Constitution & Reconciliation International Coorporation Planning General Affairs Merge Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries

So funny hahahahahaha, they censured Wanla-weyn, looooooooooooooooooooooooooool, Somalilanders everywhere must be dying of laughter

Sure, why not.

People who are denying the indigenous population of Jubboyinka their right to live in peace and prosperity and allow Somalia to join the community of nations and take its rightful state as a regional power which we could have become a long time ago.

I don't know, they sure know how to treat you well, why not give the same hospitality to the naysayers down under?

Addis Ababa: (pp)- Wafi ka socday Ururka Raaskaanbooni ayaa maanta magaalada Addis Ababa kula kulmay Madaxweynaha deegaanka Soomaalida Mudane Cabdi Maxamuud Cumar, iyagoo ka wada hadlay Xaalada deegaanka Jubbaland & isbedeladii ka dhacay guddaha magaalada Kismaayo iyo shirarka ka socda magaalada Nairobi ee ay soo abaabushay IGAD, kaas oo maamul loogu samayn doono deegaanada Jubbooyinka. '

Che -Guevara;877836 wrote: ^You know saying something over and over again doesn't change a thing-get grip. The sad thing is you could actually have made good argument if it wasn't for your obsession with Puntland and how it you want it to implode. Exactly is to obsessed with Puntland, we don't even know him, who is he? WHO ARE YOU CARAFAAT?!