checkmate Posted October 27, 2004 ^^isn't this gentleman great or what...always taking things up a notch....waaaaw pravo pravo my dear indungu asxantu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuujiye Posted October 28, 2004 punishing the woman while looking the other way for the man....what type of islam are they following X..they following The words of Allah..........If you wanna say something justice, but your femenist attitude a side..What you wrote their has femenism all over it sis and becarefull because you are playing with fire. If the woman admits that she slept with a man while being marriad to another man, she should be stoned. WhY because Allah said it...And if the man was marriad, he should be stoned to death too. but the man was not marriad and their for he gets caned 80 times.. OG girl I agree with you sis you spoke well..But keep onething in mind sis, is better to be punished here in this world than the next world. But if the girl cept her mouth shut and didn't admited the crime, she shouldn't be punished because like you said allah is qafurul rahiim, and he might forgive her..But since she admitted, is better for her to be punished...But I agree 100% on your theary of how sharica should excist with educating the people first. If you commit ZINA, is better to keep it to your self and never talk about and ask for for giveness and never do it again. Why because allah is qafurul rahiim... Where is Brother NUUR when you need him.. wareer badanaa!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted October 28, 2004 I cant say I am surprised. Those Islamic kangaroo courts seem to dish out death faster than Malakul mawd himself. Yikes! Originally posted by Garab Tuujiye: X..they following The words of Allah..........If you wanna say something justice, but your femenist attitude a side..What you wrote their has femenism all over it sis and becarefull because you are playing with fire. If the woman admits that she slept with a man while being marriad to another man, she should be stoned. WhY because Allah said it...And if the man was marriad, he should be stoned to death too. but the man was not marriad and their for he gets caned 80 times.. Just wondering where it says the girl was married? LoL @ feminism....handy label aint it? NGONGE, Da Original Gorilla, eh? Chest-beating suits you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 28, 2004 ^^^First of all, welcome back. Hope all is well in your corner of the world. Secondly, hang in there, dear. Less than four hours to go now. Hang in there. PS The “Malakul mawd†comparison is a tad heavy and might look slightly tasteless. (Edit please and then edit this message too). Don’t worry; nobody is here this time a day. I’m still waiting for answers to my questions, people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OG_Girl Posted October 28, 2004 I am here old man . Exactly 9 minutes then we break the fatoor.. all yummy foods front of me. :cool: . Tuujiye, Islam gave the people benifit of doubt. This happened Prophet's time. Woman came to him asking him the punishment.. he told her to go and have the baby.. after few months she came back wityh little baby, he let her go again saying " go and feed the kid till he can eat by himself" means at age 2 or 3 ? she came back with bread on his hand saying see he can eat himself , can you now punish me!!? See? Prophet was giving her chance after chance to just make tobah and go other places and start her life, my Prof, saying he wouldn't send any one after her to ask punishment if she just not come!! But she insisted cause she had Iman and wanted Allah to forgive her and go to Janah . Prophet already after punishment said "she is in Jannah" I will let you use your little African brain and get the moral of the story by your self, I can't feed you with my knowledge for free every time you open your mouth . PS: now left 3 minutes from Athan Maghrip Salam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted October 28, 2004 Google it, man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 28, 2004 Why bother with google when I have various knowledgeable members to summarise it for me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Femme - Posted October 28, 2004 Im still waiting for the answers to my questions, people You can wait till the fat lady sings...and let me tell you the fat lady has been on a pretty vigorous diet these days P.S. Raami eh? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz LOOOOOOOOOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 28, 2004 It seems it’s not just me who did some changes recently, eh FF? Still, do you like my new name? Think x-quzit will like it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Femme - Posted October 28, 2004 Do thine eyes deceive me? Is raami getting annoyed :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: P.S. I hope you dont take it personally. Im feeling bored these days...wanting to ruffle some feathers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x_quizit Posted October 28, 2004 "X..they following The words of Allah..........If you wanna say something justice, but your femenist attitude a side..What you wrote their has femenism all over it sis and becarefull because you are playing with fire." Garab, always using feminism to downplay ur feeble mind huh? u wanna address my comments, address them w/o pointing fingers kiddo...anyways, one cannot be a faulty muslim yet dishing out islamic rules...meaning...the ppl condemning this woman who admitted she had fornicated BUT did not consumate her marriage, meaning she didn't commit adultery but a lesser charge of zina..punishable by up to 100 lashes..he's not even getting that but carrying on with his life defiling young ladies....what pissed me off was that the man denied ever being with her therefore getting off scot free while she's left to deal with accusations...now..what kind of islam is that? not very islamic, therefore this court has just lost its direction and purpose, because they choose to apply it where they want...and all too often women take the fall...now do u get it? u don't? tell it to the judge... p.s.Ng, what have u done? this name doesnt suit u at all....i picture a sensitive gorilla rather than the fierce chest-thumping one u wanted to portray earlier.. Peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted October 28, 2004 Raami... Too weak to edit anything. Tasteless it will have to remain. Isn't the last hour b4 iftar always the worst? The clock just refuses to move! :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Serenity- Posted October 28, 2004 ^^ Ur telling me!! And the buses and tube really take the piss ^^ Annoying isnt it? Raami, I think this nick suits u better. NGONGE just reminded me of a man in the jungles of africa with cracked lips and a dusty body....hmmm....maybe I'm gettin that from ur avator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted October 28, 2004 can i say something.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sayfulaah-almasluul Posted October 29, 2004 I must say i only ocassionaly visti this sections of the forum, and everytime i do visit i come across with interesting topics,this is not exceptional. BACK to the topic in hand. the idea that everyone under tree can implement the islamic rules is totally groundless and fualty,everysection of islam is like a system a whole system where by if one part of that system is missing the rest of the system can'work.the islamic crimial system is fundementally tied to a existance of islamic state that can thoroughly investigate.( the khilaf is not conditions as long as the country fully implement islamic laws) the islamic state which can conduct such rules must have the following characteristics: (a) must be justice and therefore have the full the support of it people, (b)must have suffiencet resources to conduct thorough investigations © must have the full authority to implement it rulings without any obstructions. and the case of crime investigations mus have both women and men department who is: 1-well trained specialised police officer that can conduct thorough interviews with suspected persons of commiting adultry or fornicatiosn. 2-established criminal courts 3-exuasting all the means of safing that person before coming to court in the addith just mentioned by og_gil there the prophet told the women to go and feed the child why? in other hadith a man come to prophet( s.a.w.s) and told that i commited a fornications prophet suggested you may look at her, the man said no yarasulalah i did it, the prophet again suggested you may just kissed her, the man insisted that he did it and then the prophet ordered to be stoned, when the sahabs start stoning him he ran away but they do not stop stoning him till to death when they come back they told the prophet that the man tried to run away, look carefully what prophet said,he told them you should have left him alone..why? can anyone see why prophet said that...? that is islam the mercifull islam. on other hand there must be preventions measure in place to prevent such a sinfull act occuring ..so what do we need to do as prevention barriers: 1- educate the young men women 2- make it for them to get married and some arab and muslim coutries it very hard for man or women to get maaried becuase of financial barriers.mahar and other finaancial requirement should be affordable, 3- goverment should financilly help those who can afffort it anyway. 4- ( this might be controversila) allowing mutah..this will reduce the zina -unlawfull sex- becuase both girls and boys can lawfull and with eyewatch of sharia law have mutah and in that way wil be safe for live and from sins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
