Marax, search yourself.

Great news, runtii. Both my sister and brother-in-law are administrators there. I was there in 2003, when they were building one large campus located outskirts of Xamar. This corridor was only darbi iyo shub taag taagan when I visited on that day. It was also where we were, showing this American guy around, when the guards of constructed building and the guardian staff who came with us collided, with tensions and heated arguments immediately apparent. It was a daymare on that day. How easily some gun-toting maryooleey like to have a little action with no reason. They have no respect to those who hired them and are still supposedly their employers.

Ama habar yar oo tobon jira ah oo naasku dhagaxoobay.... Kaaba shaxaari dheh. Waxaaba u qaatay inuu habaryar ka hadlaaye, laakiin 'habar yar' uu ka wadaa, wali shaxaari weynaaday. Intuu ku arkay gantaalo shiid eh? Eeboow noo naxariiso.

Bizarro, welkam to this forum. A question for you, though: How did you discover this forum? Did you google your own words, which then led you to this forum? I've seen guys holding hands heterosexually. But sleeping in the same bed? :eek: :eek: hmmm Suldaanka, qaxii duruufaad badan ayuu keenay. Waxaas waxaa kamid ahaa hal joodari laba qof share gareeyo, even sadex qof, oo gees gees loo seexan jiray (meaning shafka hore ayaa joodariga saaranee, lugahaana banaanka). Ask reer Otaango, LoL. Anyway, I remember one night in Neyroobi that there were nine guys and three minimum-sized joodari. Si walba waala yeelay, qof ayaa faqad noqonaaye. Finally the three mattresses waala isku dhajiye and each of us had space so scarce that we felt sleeping that night might feel like dad meyd eh; no body had a space uu isku gadiyo. The funny thing was markii la isku wada faraashay, no body could sleep, markaasna sheeko ayaa la galay waagana ku barye, kii kacay markaasna laga faa'ideystay.

1) Somaliland 2) Puntland 3) Central ( Hiiraan, Galgaduud, Sh/dhexe and South Mudug) 4) South West( Bay, Bakool, Sh/hoose) 5) South (Gedo, J/dhexe iyo J/Hoose) 6) Banaadir ( 16 degmo) Intii gobol dhis lagu dag dagin waxaa ka horeyso waa in horta la helaa nabad, dowlad shaqeyso (not mid sadex qeyb u kala go'day) iyo gobolada la sheegaayo dadkeeda in lala soo shiraa. Teeda kalena af Soomaali baa ku hadalnaa, Soomaali baa nahnay. Gobolada waa inay magac Soomaali lahaadaan. Mida sadexaadka sidooda ha loo daayo, gobol walba sideeda ha isku maamusho, oo sidooda "federal" haku ahaadaan. Hadii wax la badalaayana lagu adkeystay, ha lagu soo celiyo sidii Kacaanka kahor gobolada ahaan jireen, oo kala ahaa: Mudug (whole Mudug iyo Galgaduud) Banaadir (Shabeellada Hoose iyo Banaadir) Jubbada Sare (Baay, Gedo, Bakool and parts of Jubbada Dhexe) Jubbada Hoose (parts of Jubbada Dhexe and Jubbada Hoose) Hiiraan Waqooyi Galbeed (Awdal iyo Waqooyi Galbeed) Waqooyi Bari (Togdheer, Sanaag iyo Sool) Bari (oo magac qabiil wadatay, consisting Bari iyo Nugaal)

Eebe ha u naxariisto, aamiin.

Salaan... We need to catch, if more is not possible, one fish at a time. We had Cabdi Qeybdiid fish in prison. Cabdullaahi Yuusuf could one day too be in that court, who knows. When a warlord fish is caught, we all should relish. Personally, I neither know Cabdi Qeybdiid nor Cabdillaahi Yuusuf, but they are warlords. Warlords by nature and definition are murderous thugs, egotist psychopaths. We all agreed they are, and those few who don't, then we can't ration with them. Catch one, it is good. Catch them together, it is great. Either way, we shouldn't excuse one's accused crime because others are walking free. This isn't a Soomaali court that can handle all others at once. The Swedish court had one fish in their country and they caught. No need to make a sorry but excuse. Many of us witnessed the injustices against others whose only crime was being from a different clan feather. I was in Xamar in 1991 when the worst atrocities were committed. I don't know what happened in other cities, but honestly what happened in Xamar in that year was animalistic actions. One night, one of my sister's close friends brother from their student days in Lafoole was forcibly taken from his home. A lot of their neighbours heard the hapless beseeching, the yelling and shouting from his sisters and mother who knew what was going to happen the moment he walks of their door with that blood-hungry militia. The beseeching didn't help, and the next day his body was discovered as a display on a famous park. To make it worse, the next day, one of the guys who killed him wore the very shirt the victim was wearing that night before in front of the victim's home, proudly displaying the victim's shirt as a trophy. Not a soul uttered a word. He wore that shirt the whole week. I never forget that qiso, because seeing my sister's friend's anguish and pain. Public displaying of killed bodies wasn't an isolated event. It used to happen on weekends (habeenka khamiista iyo maalinta jimcada) occasionally, mostly put on famous barxadaha, especially at Tarbuunka, which reminds me another tragic episode I really wish never to witnessed. One Friday this ciyaal xaafad kid heard rumours bodies were at display at Tarbuunka. He tried hard to go with him, and we relunctly agreed. I wish I didn't. The first body I saw was a Soomaali sister, Oh, Lord. As a young boy who never before seen a dead body, let alone a murdered one, I instantly got sick, and upon seeing the next body, whose head was open 180 degrees, brain out, was enough. I run back to home, heavily perspiring. I was sick on that night and the next day. Whenever I hear qabyaalad, I can see those innocent people, whose crime was only their qabiil. And nothing else. I narrate these episodes because we need to humanize what those warlords and their militia--or those citizens whose clanish hatred overcome the spirit and good sense of their humanity--committed. We need to, or else we will never learn. One fish warlord at a time.

Originally posted by Alpha-Geeljire: :rolleyes: Maxaa kaa yaabiye, abaayo?

Originally posted by Naku Penda Piya: You all got jokes walee. What's with those people who take the "Close your gaps. Feet to feet, shoulder to shoulder" Hadith all literally. I'm trying to concentrate in prayer when all of a sudden the lady next to me starts playing footsies with me. I try edging my self away from her but she keeps tangling with my pinky toe, What the crap? Making sure it doesn't get any room to breath! Walaahi waxaan ka hadlaaye waaye. However, I didn't expect our sisters experienced similarly. These overstepping started--as much of other foreign practices like surwaalgaabnimo, jilbaab, and rumeyga masaajidka lala dhexwato right before the salaad--after the civil war. I pray at two masaajido mostly, one run by Soomaali and the other Guyanese from Central America. I sensed many Soomaalis go to this Guyanese masaajid simply because of avoiding rigidity associated at the Soomaali masaajid. I am for all lugaha la isku dhajiyo, but aw Surwaalgaab takes it more than literally, if you had seen some brothers. They overstep you, making you completely unconfortable, forcing you to think about your aching toes than the salaad. Imagine a tarawiix or salaatul leyl adoo ku jirtid koo kugu taagnaado the whole rakaca, and if you try to move a bit, he won't understand and keep inching you as well. Sometimes it seems their whole salaad consists checking and re-checking what is going on those toes, and I guess few pay attention quraanka la aqrinaayo. My shoes were stolen, or lost last week, I now keep them in a plastic bag, inside my purse. Lesson best learned after having to walk two blocks bare feet in the rain. :mad: Gucci ayee ahayeen yaah. Maskiin. Masaajid gucci ma lagala tago, hadii lagu dhihinba xaaraan waaye. Next time watar baruufkaa qaado To be honest The God-Fearing Wadaado are amazing Grace and they have a good impact for betterment to the society in general. Unlike Pseudo-Generals, and their subordinates who destroy, rape, pillage,scorn and torch the earth. Don't we also saw the Pseudo-Politians outselling and outgunning each other, and finally enter the Pseudo-Intelletcuals wanna sell our last Xayaa and Xishood,and dismiss the Diin and reduce it to nothing else but an old arab traditions and women-Opressing rituals. I think you don't read the news lately. I've had my share of my surwaalgaab. The latest I read from wararka dalka ka imaanaayo mentioned not the "pseudo-politicians" or "pseudo-intellectuals" bothering others, but your very dear surwaalgaab group under the cloak of Maxkamada Islaamka stealing and abusing an unarmed people's savings in Xamar. That was the latest news from the other day. Anyway, I don't judge a person because how long an inch his trouser is or how millimeter a man's gar is. No, I don't look at these superfluous qualities, but I differentiate how that person's actions, habits and behaviours are, regardless if the person is wadaad or waranle as long as that person is good-natured. See reer surwaalgaab u soo fara baxeen diintii waxee ka dhigeen rigid, not how flexible and tolerate it used to be in the old days, before the war. Now you can't go to Soomaalida masaajidkooda (that is where surwaalgaab congregate) unless you have gar or your surwaal is gaabni enough or some would give you some look that I personally think borders 'dirty look.' Mabda'ooda waxee noqotay our way or the highway (under the 'sunna' seef and 'bidca' scaremongering). Our fathers practiced diinteena sharafta leh ee Islaamka a thousand years before they came, and we will, Eebe haduu idmo, practice that way, mise seeftooda hala boodaan mise ha qeyliyaan regardless.

Waxaa la yaabay markee Dowladii C/qaasin jirtay, waxaan oo dad oo dowlad jeceyl Soomaalinimo eh intee jireen? Ma jiifeen? Ha ogaadaan sidee Dowladaas Carte ugu soo horjeedeen, there are others with same shirt ugu soo horjeedo dowladaan C/llaahi Yuusuf: Clanish mentality. Jug jug meeshaada joog, indeed. Intaa saan ku jirnana adduunka waa naga tagay, meel aa gaareyno ayaa iska yar.

Originally posted by Alpha-Geeljire: The difference between the inhabitants of Mogadishu to baidoa (southern Somalis) and the descendents of THE GREAT who roam from garbahaarey-galkacyo-goldgob-lascanod-lasqorey is that the descendents of THE GREAT have something call "daqaan" and have the mental capability to know the difference between right and wrong, while the others are barbaric, inhumane, cannibal-like, savages. This is proving by the actions eachone took during dagaalki sakooye. Laakiin intaa "the difference between cannibals, barbaric and the GREAT" people of yours soo baran, af Soomaaligaa gaja gaja soo badal. "Dhaqan" iyo "dagaaladdii" waaye, mise amaaba dhaqan celis u baahan tahay.

Baliis, baliis, baliis, for the Looooof of Eebe, Reer Surwaalgaab, don't overstep on my toes, especially faryareeyda hoose. It hurts. Keep your cago loosely side by side on my cag, but not overstepping. Dankis. Mahadsanid.

Salaan... The brief Cabdi Qeybdiid detention remarkably taught us and forced all of us to see the intended barriers and obstacles that lie ahead. It taught us whether or if the possibility of ultimate and definitive solution to the ongoing Soomaali civil war is ever attainable. It taught us, as it emerged, regardless the severity of atrocities committed by certain questionable individuals, to a certain fringe, qabiil always comes first, from both the detractors and supporters. Detractors rejoice the simple arrest of an individual regardless the evidence against that particular person because simply the person belongs the perceived adversary qabiil. Likewise, the supporters buoy up and defend the person simply he belongs their clan. In Qeybdiid’s case, what emerges was both surprise and disappointing at the same time. On this particular forum, three groups became apparent. The euphoric from the cheering in an ultimate exultation and gloating on hearing the arrest of one of their apparent enemy clan's most prominent. The supporters unbelievable overreaction, from questioning a third well-regarded independent country's jurisdiction to the legality of such an international arrest to what the accused has done to warrant such an arrest, and if he did, he was simply defending his turf in an entangled civil war. And the third group who did not defend the accused but nonetheless muttered quietly if indeed he is accused and is a war criminal, why this particular individual now? Why not others? Why such and such are freely walking, and all of this, this man is arraigned to scapegoat others. If the official half million or so who perished and are still perishing in this endless Soomaali civil conflict ever wanted to see the light of ever seeing the perpetrators who committed those unspeakable crimes against humanity ever brought to justice, this brief saga tells us we have yet to mature and unshackle from the ugly, deep pysch of negative tribal mentality of allegiance. The innocents will eventually have their day in court, be it a Divine Court or not, and regardless how the backers and disparagers seem to defend or jubilate against accused criminals.

The epitome of Soomaali man's culture. A perfect koofiyad Barawaani on the top. A nice, old-style camaamad (not the red ones those everything-Sacuudi-worshipping surwaalgaab wear) on shoulder, not on the head. A great, fashionable hoosgundi. A nice home-made jambal. That will be in my utopic retirement day, down in a Soomaali city or town, peacefully enjoying the scenic views with a koob of shaah, contemplating about the old dreary, gloomy and chilly days in a city then known of Koronto. One of these days, Eebe haduu idmo.

Meeshaan waala isku waabsanooyaa.

Caaqil, sarcasticnimo ayee iga ahayd. Shariifka inuu ahayn qabqable waala og yahay. Cabdi Qeybdiid godkiis ayaa biyo ugu galay. I don't think he was arrested without a sound evidence, and I don't think he would be freed shortly. Now, aw qabqableyaal would really study the laws the European countries they are going to visit have regarding dambiyadee galeen. If only Dubeey, Neyroobi, London iyo magoolooyinka kale ee ugu ordaan caafimaadkooda iyo check-up-kooda waxaas ma jiri lahaa meel ee ugu bixi lahayeen ma jiri lahayn the four-walled fiefdoms they rule oo boring ku qaban lahaa.

War nimanyahoow maa aflagaadada la iska dhaafo. War nimanyahoow saan hala isku dhaama, saan si ma'aha.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: or we will consider that as a war of tribe against another. Which tribe does government of Iswiidhan belong to? Oh, let me assume, siding with reer Yacyac against reer Yaxyax?

One down, 99 to go. Shariifkana inee ku daraan qadaan qadiska ayaa fiicneed.

Awguuriyo, Barwaaqo. NB, bring the old Barwaaqo back, baliis.

Originally posted by Naku Penda Piya: What's the big fuss here? It's called doing business, nothing personal. Did we not have jaasuus back home? How are the ones here different from those back in the days? Not trying to publicize anything, but there's an enormous demand for translators. I know couple of people who translate intercepted telephone conversations - Dirty work, but the pay is grreatttt I tell ya! Actually, a while ago a family member was telling me Virginia waa laga kala cararay, especially Fairfax County. A big lady basaas was in their midst, who was paid per commission. So, she reported all the innuendos and rumours. Hebel waa dambiili state kale kasoo galay dambi oo fugitive eh. Hebel baa shab usoo dhacdo hadana taksi ka shaqeeyo. Heblaayo nin ninkeeda ahayn bee isboonsar u dirtay. Hebel filled been income tax return. Meeshii waa laga kala cararaaye. Naagtaas geesisanaa.

Salaan... Diggin' up three-and-half year old topic, Eebe u baahnoow, shaqo la'aan maa ku heyso?

Salaan... That figure above is from the United Nation's projected study on Soomaali women birth fertility, from 2000. The report, as it was wrote, predicted correctly. The figure, 7.25, regards the average children Soomaali women have in their lifetime, most of them in Soomaaliya we assume, the second highest. There are other current reports as well, and all give Soomaaliya on second or third spot, some giving the figure to eight children per woman. No wonder with all these diseases, starvation, war, drought, poverty, expired medicines sold at markets, lack of clean water and other calamities, neverthelees, we are still a nation that grows, the nation as recently as 2002 being rated having the highest birth rate. That perception of most Soomaali fathers aiming to have a full 'football team' family might have been correct after all. If I take a closer look at my own family background: My own mother had 10 children. My eedo, from the other bah, had 12 children. My habaryar has 12 as well. A brother and a sister both have eight apiece, and continuing; another sister with seven and counting. Seven or eight, it seems, is the aimed number nowadays.

This topic is about Yuusuf Indhacadde and his drug trade. Did I see anywhere in that Qaramada Midoobey report talking about Cabdiqaasin Salaad Xasan. Folks, we need to stick to topic at hand. C/qaasin faraha ka qaada, because some of you seem paranoid, if not obsessed, of him, mentioning in any chance you have that he is behind all the bad things that happen in the intricate politics of south. Judging from your posts, C/qaasin seems as though he has all the strings behind the scenes the mess the south is in. One time it was C/qaasin who broke power of RRA, siding with Xaabsade; it was him who tried to equally cause discord in Buntlaand by siding with Jaamac Cali Jaamac; another time he is attributed to be Hiiraale's boss, now behind Indhacadde's actions. You guys are giving him too much soft power, indeed. He may have nominated Indhacadde to be a "governor" of Shabeellada Hoose, laakiin dowladiis see u dhamaatay faraha uu kala baxay, as it seems. C/qaasin can be blamed in many things, but, but, but at least sounded and acted like a statesman, never was a stooge of Sanaawi. What can we say about C/llaahi Yuusuf's character in this respect?

Caamir, please edit your post from clan names. Dankis I didn't ignore yours; I didn't see it. Anyway, I leave this topic as it is: Anybody has a right to believe anything, including claiming to be European, err Carab. PS, Axmed Gureey soldiers consisted many Muslims, including Soomaalis. I never questioned that. Not only the Soomaali clans you quoted above were restricted in that respect. As far as evidence goes, it was in this jihaad wars the word Soomaali was first heard or recorded.