This is just in: France recognizes Quebec!!!!!! Jean Charest and French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin sign a declaration. [Duly note the flag at the back, lest you forgot my point.] Another news just in: Mexico recognizes Quebec!!! Unbelievable!!!! Mexico's Economy Minister Fernando Canales Clariond and Quebec Premier Jean Charest. [Ah, do not overlook the flag, baliis.] Breaking news: It is official, Belgium finally recognizes Quebec!!! Jean Charest with Yves Leterme, the Minister-President of the Flemish Community of Belgium. Oh, the mighty US recognizes Quebec!! The world is ending, the world is ending... The Premier with Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff. [The Quebec flag is obscured by Chertoff, lest you missed.] Oh, the impossible. The impossible. European Union does indeed recognize Quebec: Quebec Premier Jean Charest gave a speech on federalism and globalization at the European Parliament. ______________ Haye, masii wadaa? Should I bring official pictorial recognition from Shiinaha? Jabbaan? Barasiil? Ingiriiska? Hallloow, anybody out there gettin' my drift and paying attention? Hallooooooooooooooow[!]

joy******@yahoo.fr From: Mrs Joy ****** Add:43 rue de ***** djibi ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA Good Day, Please, kindly pardon me for any inconvenience this letter may cost you because I know it may come to you as a surprise as we'have no previous correspondence. I got your contact as i was searching for helping hand in your country, this is why I decided to appeal to you directly for assistance because I' have no relations or friends in your country for help I am Mrs. Joy ***** from Ivory Coast. I am a widow being that I lost myhusband a couple of months ago. My husband was a serving director of the Cocoa exporting board until his death . He was assassinated last january by the rebels following the political uprising. Before his death he had a foreign account here in Cote Ivoire up to the tune of $6.5M which he told the bank was for the importation of cocoa processing machine. I want you to do me a favour to receive this funds to a safe account in your country or any safer place as the beneficiary . I have plans to do investment in your country, like real estate and industrial production.This is my reason for writing to you. Please if you are willing to assist me and my only son Frank, indicate your interest in replying soonest. Thanks and best regards. Mrs Joy ****** _______________ Yes, I will help you, Mr Clever. But tell me first, which country do I reside in? You need to figure that out first. Regards, Jinoole _______________ Dear friend Thanks for your mail very well.The most important thing is for you to help me out so that the bank transfers the money to your account in your country then l will come over there and meet you for investment which you will assist me as you know that l do not know any business in your country. So you send your full name and address with your phone and fax numners.On receipt of it l will go to the bank and submit it to them presenting you as the foreign business partner of my late husband so that the bank transfers the money to you. Dear, also on the 10% which I offered you I believe that it is okay for you as you will help and manage any of my investment in your country. I await hear from you. Joy ***** ______________ Yes, sir, understood perfectly. But before I provide my full address, shouldn't it be fair that you do it first? Your complete full name. Your complete address. Your complete phone number. And about that 10%, it isn't exactly much. But tell, since I am not good in math, how much exactly will it be in dollars? Can you crunch the numbers for me, please. Thank you. PS, you hadn't answered my earlier question, which still stands: Which country do I LIVE in? Jinoole ________________ Dear Jinoole Thank you for your mail and your willingness to assist me with the execution of this transaction for our mutual benefit and to liberate me from my present situation here in this country. I received your mail with joy in my heart and praises to God for providing someone like you in this time of need. I pray that this will mark the begining of a good family and business relationship. I am the wife the late Mr. Steve Kouakou, with our only surviving son Franck ***** This where we are living: Postal Address: 01-BP *** Abidjan 01 Home Address Reu 154 ****** **** Telephone: 00225084***** Abidjan Cote D' Ivoire I enjoined you to cooperate with me to get this funds released from the bank and transfered to your bank account then you can deduct your share of it and I collect my own share too and invest it in your country with your help. I will like to use this opportunity to give you more details about my needing your assistance. I choosed you from my hearts after praying believing that you would be like a father and brother to my son. I decided to trust you out of my own personal conviction believing that it is God that choosed you for me. Considering the present political situation here in Ivory Coast I cannot wait any longer, just some few months ago a war broke out here with the rebels fighting the incumbent government and a lot of people lost their lives. I do not want to stay here and loose my lives too, hence my decision to contact you for help. When i just got to this country i went to the bank and Director demand that i come to make an official introduction of your person to the bank as my gaurdian/investor for easy recongntion when you personaly contact them to instruct them on the mode of transfer that you want, he demanded for the following: Your full name, address, telphone and fax numbers, age marital status and nationality. Please send these to me. i will go for the introduction as soon as i have them and get beck to you with the out come of my discussion with the director. Finally sir I am entrusting the life and future of my son into your hands believing that you will not disappoint me. Please here attachment is me and my son pictures,and our address: I hope to hear from you soon, May God bless and be with you and give you the strenght to assist me in this time of need. Greetings to your entire Family. Yours Sincerely Mrs Joy ****** ________________ Thanks. But still you haven't answered another important question: How much the ten percent of that millions you've on your account translate into cash? See, I am not really good in math. Also, you phone number happens to be a cell phone [mobile], I want your real home phone number. Also can you provide me your bank's account number. Anyway, I am going to Africa in the coming months. Perhaps I will give a brief visit to Ivory Coast. Should we meet? What do you think? I also would like to sponsor an African child to my country, perhaps your son might fit that description? What do you think this too? Regards, Jinoole _______________ Dear Jinoole Thank you for your mail and your willingness to assist me with the execution of this transaction for our mutual benefit and to liberate me from my present situation here in this country. I received your mail with joy in my heart and praises to God for providing someone like you in this time of need. I pray that this will mark the begining of a good family and business relationship. I am the wife the late Mr. Steve ******, with our only surviving son Franck ****** This where we are living: Postal Address: 01-BP *** Abidjan 01 Home Address Reu 154 ***** ***** Telephone: 00225084***** Abidjan Cote D' Ivoire I enjoined you to cooperate with me to get this funds released from the bank and transfered to your bank account then you can deduct your share of it and I collect my own share too and invest it in your country with your help. I will like to use this opportunity to give you more details about my needing your assistance. I choosed you from my hearts after praying believing that you would be like a father and brother to my son. I decided to trust you out of my own personal conviction believing that it is God that choosed you for me. Considering the present political situation here in Ivory Coast I cannot wait any longer, just some few months ago a war broke out here with the rebels fighting the incumbent government and a lot of people lost their lives. I do not want to stay here and loose my lives too, hence my decision to contact you for help. When i just got to this country i went to the bank and Director demand that i come to make an official introduction of your person to the bank as my gaurdian/investor for easy recongntion when you personaly contact them to instruct them on the mode of transfer that you want, he demanded for the following: Your full name, address, telphone and fax numbers,age marital status and nationality. Please send these to me. i will go for the introduction as soon as i have them and get beck to you with the out come of my discussion with the director. Finally sir I am entrusting the life and future of my son into your hands believing that you will not disappoint me. Please here attachment is me and my son pictures,and our address: I hope to hear from you soon, May God bless and be with you and give you the strenght to assist me in this time of need. Greetings to your entire Family. Yours Sincerely Mrs Joy ***** _______________ That was the last mail I received. I don't know what to write back. Note, though, the guy didn't even bother to compose a new email, instead pasting his earlier one word by word. Marka it is all yours now to write what you think will be in the next email. A waste of time? Shaqo-la'aan.marax? Well, sometimes madadaalo waa loo baahan yahay.

Munaasabad lagu xusay Maalinta Dhalinyarada Soomaaliyeed (15-ka Maajo) oo ku beegan 63-guuradii ka soo wareegatay aasaaskii ururkii SYL ayaa maanta ka dhacday magaalada Baydhabo. Munsaabadan oo sanad walba Soomaaliya laga xuso ayaa lagu maamuuusay markii dhidibada loo aasay ururkii magaciisa loo soo gaabin jiray SYL (Soomaali Youth League) oo la aasaasay 1943, muddo laga joogo 63 sano sidii dalka Soomaaliya uu noqon lahaa dal ka madax banaan gumaystaha. Munaasabadan lagu xusay Maalinta Dhalinyarada Soomaaliyeed ee maanta ka dhacday Baydhabo ayaa waxaa soo abaabulay Wasaaradda Dhalinyarada iyo Isboortiga ee dawlada federaalka iyo ururka Dhlinyarada Gobolka Baay oo uu Gudoomiye u yahay Cali Sheekh Xuseen "Cali Shiino" Dadwaynihii ka qaybgalay xuska ayaa waxay socod ka soo bilaabeen Hotel Edin ee magaalada Baydhabo waxayna socod ku soo mareen wadooyinka waawayn ee magaalada Baydhabo waxayna isugu soo urureen garoonka kubadda Cagta Baydhabo (Ayuub Stadium) Waxaa dadwaynihii isugu soo baxay garoonka kubadda Cagta Baydhabo la hadlay Wasiirka Dhalinyarada iyo Isboortiga Axmed Cabdullaahi Jaamac Daakir. Wasiirk ayaa sheegay in dhalinyaradu ay laf-dhabar u yihiin ummad kasta asagoo xusay in aasaasayaashii ururkii SYL ay ahaayeen 13 dhallinyaro ah oo u guntaday dhulkooda, wuxuuna dhalinyarada reer Baydhabo uga mahadceliyay sida quruxda badan ee ay uga qaybqaateen xuska Maalinta Dhalinyarada Soomaaliyeed. Aabiyaashii Gobanimadoonka: Yaasiin Xaaji Cismaan Xaaji Maxamad Xuseen Cabdiqaadir Sakhaawadiin Khaliif Huudoow Macallin Max'ed Cismaan Baarbe. Cismaan Geedi Raage Max'ed Faarax Hilowle Dheere Xaaji Dheere Max'ed Xirsi Nuur [siidi] Max'ed Cabdalla Xayeesi Max'd Cali Nuur Cali Xasan Max'ed [Faranaaji] Daahir Xaaji Cismaan [Dhagaweyne]

Cacaacal.qam iyo baliis-baliis.quuq Su'aal : Waxaa maamulkii Cabdiqaasim kuu doortay mar ra'isal wasaare, laakiin waxaa la sheega in aad laguu xumeeyey, Somaliland gudaheedana aan lagaaga yeeleen wixii koonfur lagaaga yeelay, sharaftaadii ayaa meel lagaga dhacay, cabdiqaasim-na wuxuuba kugu tilmaamay nin aan tallada reerkiisu xitaa ka go'in, ma waxaasi oo dhan oo ku gaadhay ayaad leedahay Somaliland weli kuma qanacsani gooni isku taageeda iyo karaamadeeda? Jawaab : haddii uu masayr shacab yahay sidaad sheegayso maxaa beesha caalamku idiin aqoonsan wayday mar hore... Jawaab fiican maxaa la siiye.

Maakhir, the article alludes that they are minority. They certainly aren't, but they are unarmed. Can you believe the guddoomiyaasha of Afgooye, Marka, Baraawe, Awdheegle, Qoryooleey and Daafeed [Wanlaweyn] all hail from one sub-clan, who historically or not has no business in there to be? Plus the guddoomiyaha of the whole gobol? Unfortunately, or fortunately for the occupiers, the native residents of these degmooyin still have the old mentality of peacefulness, that everything, like in gumeysigii Talyaaniga, will be good one day. Nabad waa wax muhiim ah, oo laga maarmin for any human being. Laakiin dadkaas lagu heysto gobolladaas wali waa riyoonoyaan, believing, like gumeysidoonkii, all will be good in the long term. Ma'oga this ain't gumeysi duullaan ku yimid oo shisheeya ah, but a gumeysi dhow oo dhul balaarsiga raadinaayo, marna diin ku ganbanaayo, beerahoodana ka xalaaleystay. They can't even go fishing now; they pay extra "tax" or royalty to fish their Eebbe-given right to fish their own native ocean they ever knew. They now are changing, though, testing Indhamadoowe's brutal rule. They started low-level campaign, bombing his xerooyin at night in many degmooyin, thus he started bandow, a curfew at night most degmooyin. It isn't working, since the last two nights already two different bombs occured in Marka, his strongest base. They also distribute waraaqo loogu digaayo and lagu dacaayadeynaayo his brutal rule. Ha ogaadaan unless sidii Caydiid Junior looga soo saaray dhulkii Arlaadi, in Indhamadoowe meelna u socon unless sidii Caydiid Jr. loo galay ku dhicin -- a forceful removal asaga iyo wixii lamid ah.

Dankis and appreciation, Sincere. I made it and here it is: http://www.petitiononline.com/Jinoole/petition.html Folks, sign it now, you were fearful before your name to appear on SOL, now no more. And foward it to your contacts. Dankis again all. PS, I will feature this topic now.

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: Bro this chap you keep quoting has lost it, if you ask me. If he thinks images of a boy stabbing knife in another man's neck is an excuse that is somehow's gonna win me over, he must be nutts, to put it midly. What a looney! Qabiil caabudid heer waxaad gaartay xataa Islaanimadii, Soomaalinimadii iskaba dhaafee, xataa bini aadenimadii aad lose gareysid. Eebboow ha naga qaadin humanitynimo. Nin tiir lagu xir xiray, oo wiil yar tooreey loo soo dhiibay ku sur suraayo, xataa in aad ku qososhid iska dhaafee, maanta waxee taagan tahay heer aad ku jees jeesteysid. Eebboow, dadka cuqdada ka saar, wadnahooda daahiri, inteeba saas u dhiman iyagoo ganfuur taagaayo iyo Soomaali ka carar iyo naceyb. Aamiin.

Folks, hadee dhab inaga tahay our intention, magaceena aan ku biirino then websiteyada kale aan u gudbino. Aan iska bilaabo. C/salaan Sh Mukhtaar

Wakaalada maxaa-la-sheegay news waxee lee yihiin, though very unreliable and untrusted, she apparently took her life because of difficulties she had at her school in New York. Hadee taas run tahay, it is very unfortunate.

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by HornAfrique: "We need help but instead [the faction leaders] have been feeding us bullets for the last 16 years," she said of Mogadishu's faction leaders. "It is our children they are killing. Their children are in safe countries." Can someone get a list of the warlords participating in this current Muqdisho conflict (whether pro or against the courts)? And also a list of where the families of these cowards live in the diaspora would be great. I don't know waxaa ku sameen lahayd, laakiin just last Sunday in Koronto, a young man by the name of Qanyare Cabdiweli Max'ed Qanyare married in a hall across from the masaajidka Soomaalida. Obviously, a grandson of that notorious warlord. One time or another, this city had plenty of warlords' families, living freely. You name them, from Max'ed Faarax Caydiid the Senior, Cali Mahdi Max'ed, Cabdullaahi Yuusuf Axmed, and now this Qanyare. Cabdi Qeybdiid's brother also lives here. Laakiin waxee kasbadeen aabayashooda ama awoowyaashooda in jiilkooda lagu dambi daro ma u maleynaayi. Magac can't make a person guilty by association.

Been Been Sii Or Dayniile.com Idamaale.com Or Shabeellenews.com Anyway, This Minute has 22 Seconds still on? Mr Ranter, Rick Mercer.

Jen., you've every right to report what's happening in Xamar. Xamar was and, still in a way, is a metropolis that was founded by a civlized people, then settled by all Soomaalis. A lot of us xudunteena ku duugaan, which still makes it our favourite, treasured city, regardless gibberish some express it to be a X clan city, thus wrongly mistaking any negative news from there against certain clans. Xamar yaa naga xigo? Ma kooyto iyo rer gadaal-ka-gaar? When so-called fake surwaalgaab wadaads behave like this, as worse as a declared dagaal-ooge, hadana isla saxan, aakhiro samaan iska sug. When an occupier, a man who is xalaalizing public properties such as Indhamadoowe calls 'jihaad' against his fellow warlords whom obviously doesn't believe he is one of them. In that same speech, he declares henceforth [on that night], he is 'milkiilaha' [owner] of Warshaddii Baastada ee dowlada dhexe. When another fake wadaad such as Korneel Daahir Aweys declares this dagaal is 'xalaal' oo waa laga maarmaan ah, then maxaa la sugaa meesha yaalo? Soomaalida finally are awakened, waana arkeen waxee yihiin wadaad ku sheegaan, just another power-hungry fanctional group, doing their way whatever it takes to achieve, regardless wixii ciyaal, waayeel, haween iyo maato ku geeriyoodo. Aamiin Caamir, as always, is on the point:

Bishaaro, abtina mac sii hee, xaa ugu reebanee macda?

Salaan... Jen., thanks for initiating such an endeavour. I will try to compile a one, though it may rather border ranting than a legitimate petitition. _________________ We the Soomaali people of Diaspora... We the exiled Soomaali people... We the tired, war-weary Soomaali people... We the hopeless, hapless Soomaali citizens... We the powerless Soomaali nationals... We the afflicted, inflicted Soomaali citizens... We the disgruntled, wretched Soomaali nationals... We the mentally anguished Soomaali nationals... We the agonized, demonized Soomaali nationals... We the tormented Soomaali communities inside the country and out... We, a tired, a broken community of us, disenchanted at the state of a nation of ours, a disconnected, disconsolated, discomforted people of us -- we are simply tired of this unending, prolonged clan conflicts, of this tenth-century clan mentality, of this backwardness -- simply, tired, tired, tired of it... We the Soomaali refugees, immigrants, we tahriibs, we who are perishing in Red, Mediterranean Seas; perishing silently at Saxaras of Suudaan, of Masar, of Liibiya, of Yemen, of Sacuudiya; perishing at, too, small seas and border wilderness of Turkey, of Qubrus, of Gareek, of Malta, of Talyaaniga... We the Soomaali refugees in xerooyinka of Daddaab, Iffoow, of xerooyinka at Yemen... We the starved Soomaali people, starved because of famine, because of little knowledge... For the sake of our: Our contaminated, poison-filled ocean... Our environmentaly damages rivers... Our man-made ongoing deforestation, desertification... Our people, sandwiched between to choose consumption of expired medicines imported by merciless, exploitive businesspeople or not having any of these cheap-shot medicines... We Soomaali people considering all calamities above condemn in the strongest, unequivocal possible term this senseless, inexcusable, unwarranted war. We Soomaali brothers and sisters everywhere demand an immediate halt to this senseless bloodshed -- the blood of innocent children, women and men. We simply are a tired community, whose burden can no longer tolerate of this endless fratricidal, inter-clan war recyclements. Really, enough is definitely enough.

Mideeda kale, she could be qoosaarad waynaatay claiming to be 11 (maybe the smuggler told her so.) Allahu yaclam. Qoonsaar aan maqlo shimee igu dambeysay. Dadkiina sheekadeena ama afaaraheena qarxinaayo ogaada waaxda socdaalka ee dalalka reer Galbeedka inay aqrinayaan shabakaddaan, haddii dad badan loo diidana isdhiibitaankooda idinkaa ugu wacdaan doono.

Maxaa ku dhacay xabbad joojintii? It really bleeds my heart, having two waalid there, plus an ayeeyo who joined them recently from Neyroobi, plus a sister and her children. All living three different houses, albeit same degmo of Hodan. The elders refuse to leave Xamar, as my old man did in early '90s, vowing they will die there maalintee tooda soo gisho. Really, walaahi, naxdintii ee naga dhameeyeen. Yaa nagu soo diray inkaarqabiyaashaan. Sidii habar camal ma u habaari karnee.

Source: The Sun. Another tabloid, subscription-seeking trash paper. Weren't it the trashy paper that published donkey-eating Soomaalis. All tabloid papers in UK's disdain for liberal immigration policies are openly known; however, for some incomprehensible reason, this trashy Sun paper has a particular grudge against Soomaalis. 'Possibly,' aha? When did a responsible journalism use that word. Either you try authenticate your source, then cite or never publish anything 'possible, I-think, we-think' opinions. Then it is a tabloid after all.

Shimon Peres asaga waligiis siyaasadda Yahuuda maka retire gareeyo miyaa? Always holding a government office. Ilaa aan maqlay magaciis '92 ilaa hada siyaadda uu ku dhex jiraa, though perceived politically a perennial underachiever. The only Yahuud siyaasi I respect, which is little to begin, is this old man.

Haweeneey ka mid ahayd dadkii saakay ka qaxayay dagaalka ayaa waxa ay ku cataaweysay " Hadii caruur iyo haween la laayo janada lagu galaayo aaqiro waa la wada tagi doonaa ." Haweeneydaasi oo xambaarsaneyd hal cunug dhowr kalena gacmaha ku sidatay ayaa Shabelle mar ay wax ka weydiisay waxa ay ku dagaalamayaan labada dhinac waxa ay tiri "hogaamiyeyaasha dagaalka 15 kii sano waxa ay shaqeeysteen naartii ay gali lahaayeen, laakiin waxaan la yaabanahay wadaadada" ayay intaasi sii raacisay. [shabeellenews.com] Maskiin. Soomaali hadaan wada nahnay naxariistii wax la dhaho naga tagtay. Eebboow qabooji xaaladda. Aamiin.

Salaan... Martiqaad. Sending xawilaad. [Helping a fifth-cousin calling from God-knows where.] Going to maqaayadda, where only one person insists to pay the whole lunch/dinner's set of price. Some even fight, anigaa-bixinaayo iyo maya-aniga-ayaa-bixinaayo. Unbounded walaaltinimo where a person uninhibitedly and unconsciously utters aboowe/abaayo or eedo/adeer to a respective Soomaali person s/he meets. Trusting one another unconditionally, even strangers. Taking a vacation to another city/country, looking forward to stay with cousin you hadn't met in ten years or never met, thus without worrying any single cent going toward to hotels, transportions, etc. Trying to help one another where in distress, regardless if they know one another. Tacsi. Countless people giving you a visit, consoling in the hour of most needed. Going to uninvited aroos, expecting to be treated equally. Kaftanka. Bootada. Fara ka ciyaarka. Madadaaladda. Shactiradda. When they gather, how sheekada always naturally flows, how it always changes, from the latest policy from the prime minister of New Zealand to the best player in German football league, always sharing their two kumi and taano, even if they are ten strangers, new to one another. Feeling a little proud whenever you see any Soomaali wearing dirac, goosgundi, and other hido iyo dhaqanka Intaas ha inoogu joogto.

Af Soomaali muhiimadiis ayaa laga hadlaa, hadana isla qofkii ayaa af shisheeya isticmaalaaya. Af Soomaali waa af udgoon, qani ah waliba, laakiin nasiibdaro dad badan oo isla afkaas u dhashay ayaan jecleen afkooda hodanka ah. Hadaa Soomaalida weydiisay ereyga 'gentleman' maxaa af Soomaali lagu dhahaa, dad yar kaliya ayaa yaqaano. Dadkaas yarna qaarkood si qalad u fasiro, oo lasoo boodaayo 'mudane.' Gentleman sax ahaan waxaa loo fasiraa 'magal,' not confused with 'magan.'

Filthy red-neck province with with lots, lots, lots of sand oil, plus a very right-wing, right-at-home-Ã la-Texas premier. The province only gets interesting when the price of oil rises. Currently, as it did in '70s, its overflown with wealth from that sand oil, thus no tax in provincially. Most Soomaalis who work there are kawaanle and drivers of isjiidka macalarimoodkiis. They make lacag fiican, considering the jobs they do, but faraha iyo dhiiga ayaa istaago the result of cutting hilib baraf ah everyday. Thus, the highest aalkuluusto of dhalinyarada Soomaalida live there, attributing to its harsh cold weather and minimum social life. Sad.

Originally posted by Allamagan: quote: *************PLEASE DON'T USE TRIBAL NAMES ON SOMALIA ONLINE***************** [ May 07, 2006, 11:04: Message edited by: Admin ] Miskiin don't misuse your power, bruv, By Allah, I haven't offended any qabiil.Am I the Admin. now? Eed heerkaas mee gaartay? I could have expected others to accuse me anything, including being the Admin. of this site, but not you, duqa. In brief: I never edited any post in this thread. That is more than abuse of moderatorship, it diminishes my character in person and in life -- not on this cyber world. Waa cadaalad daro, even if mentioning tribal names, I didn't edit lest you accused me of bias and etc, as you already did. MMA, what you are saying is that Gedo is occupied by the SNF? Saaxiib, Gedo Garbahaarey kama koobno. Nor Buuloxaawo. I was referring about Baardheere and Luuq, and midka muranka ka taagneen of Ceelwaaq. As I wrote, qiiqa iyo quuqa meeshaan ka socoto ha dhageysan, but read that UN report, an impartial fact-finding committee qoray who visited Gedo and all its degmooyin. You don't have to believe me or take my word, or anybody. I don't think UN lies, where it has no interest whatsoever. Not only is it about UNka, other non-Soomaali sources documented it too, you can google it. I will give you a brief paragraph from that foresaid report of UNka [i will substitute clans with people's names for simplification's sake]: "In its note on the Gedo region, the UNPOS states that, before civil war broke out in 1990, Bardera was mainly the homeland of various [Arlaadi] clans: [Various reer Arlaadi clans names are listed, including Xaabsade's clan, Shariifka's clan, Shatigaduud's clan, Fowsiyo Max'ed Sheekh's clan, etc.]. There were also [Gabyoow's clan] and [other] clans in Bardera. The Bardera district consists of over 180 villages, mainly inhabited by [Arlaadi] clans. The [siyaad Barre's] clans traditionally, before the 1969 October revolution, formed a minority in Bardera. At that time only one village, Serinly, in the Bardera district was inhabited by [siyaad Barre's] clans. In the 1960s the [Gabyoow's] clan was in the majority in the western part of the town of Bardera, which like Luuq is divided into a western and an eastern part. The eastern part, containing the main section of the town, was at that time inhabited by [Arlaadi] clans, with both [Gabyoow's] and [siyaad Barre's] clans living in the western part. From 1988 to 1990, however, [Gabyoow's clan] members were driven out of Bardera by the [siyaad Barre's] clans and since then most [Gabyoow's clan] members have been living in an area situated between the Saakoow and Jilib districts of the Middle Juba region to the south of Gedo. In recent years a large number of [Arlaadi] clans have returned to the town of Bardera. As both the [Arlaadi] and the [Gabyoob's] clans are weaker than the [siyaad Barre's] clans militarily, however, those two clans have little political influence. Bardera is thus nowadays controlled by the [siyaad Barre's] clans." ___________________ That was only waxaan u sheegaaye. Quuq iyo qaaq meesha ma taalo. Qabyaalad hadee dadka caabuddaan, indhaha ee tirtaa. Then there is that famous xirta based on Baardheere. Ask 'macalimiintaan' qurbaha ku koray, oo living room history inay meeshaan lasoo shirtagaan rabo maanta, who led for centuries xirtii Baardheere until their leader was summarily executed in 1992. About Luuq weyba iska cadahay; it is a town with rich historical sultanate, especially documented by gumeysi doonkii Talyaaniga.

Originally posted by General Duke: I thought this thread was about Jubaland state? What is the point of proving the origins of which clan inhabited which area. As for Gedo the question should e who is the majority in the region know? The majority today matter more than who lived in the area a century or more ago. There is very little demographic information on Somalia. So-called, dreamy Jubbaland talks about the incorporation degmooyin iyo beero xoog lagu heysto. And noo, it isn't about beerooyinka Jubbooyinka. Kuwaas maba la gaarin. It is about the forceful occupation of Baardheere and Luuq, and later Ceelwaaq. No, it isn't about what happened a 'century' ago, it was what happened after the civil war. The majority of Baardheere or Luuq inhabitants and the beeraha dadkaas dabcan jiray xoog baa loogu heystaa, as it is in Shabeellada Hoose or Jubbooyinka. Read that United Nations report with links adigaa arki kartid. I don't think inay a researched and completely finished UN paper been sheegeyso, kuwa qabyaalada la degtayna run sheegayaan. As for who is majority now, no body knows. Still dadkaas xooga loogu heysto beerahooda waa joogaan qaarkood, but can't have their farms back. Some left to other nearby towns. Well, xaqdaro ma soconeyso, as Caydiid, Moorgan, et al., who all occupied Baardheere and other towns nearby, had seen it.

Soomaalida qaarkood waa geeljire, they are nomads. Some of them malaay waaba ka faantamaan, sida ay ugu faantamaan cambuulo, digir, qamadi iyo soor. It is just sad reality, dad ka cararaayo their native food, dad u cararaayo and kuu praise gareynaayo cunto gumeysi iyo dhaqanamo kale laga keenay, sida baasto, sabaayad, bariis, rooti iyo wixii lamid ah. The old governments used to encourage the Soomaali citizens to exploit their national resources, particularly our seas and farms. It was achieving some progress when the civil war started.