Thinks have changed forever. [/QB] Oh yes, things have changed alright, and it is back to sixties, and the coming the third Reich.....LoL In fairness, Yusuf did win fair and square. Suldaanka....People should worried about Ina Yusuf, his past and his future intentions. Having said that I think the articles in Hoybonet, and Dayniile seems to be written by bunch of bitter people.

So is Somalitalk.com, and I had problems at times with few others.

Well there are a lot of us not happy with how things turn out, but I believe we should put our differences aside, and support the new goverment so we could restore the Somali state which would hopefully provide peace, security, and our dignity as nation.

Smith-I Guess we wait and see-It is now confirmed Yusuf is the new president. There was an electric outage, but now the ballots are counted n Yeey made it.

What happened to the anti-Yusuf alliance. :confused: :confused: If yeey is elected. It would be interesting to see how he will be recieved in mogadisho if even he can go there at all.

Lets hope good new beginning for the Somali Republic. I think they might go into round three. Smith..Ing Cadow sounds good, but we need someone who would stand upto Yusuf.

Horn-I guess the most hated warlord is to be legitimized as the next president of the Somalia..Indeed patience pays off....now 64 million dollars question is will yeey be good for Somalia, and will everybody accepted the results?.

I guess the mad man from the Punt made it-May God help us. What da hell happened to Cadow?

Qacbaro...I think you are right, I should be on my way now.

Divorce party...LoooL...Damn this is sounds like an episode from Sex and the City....Somalis get to stop immitating. P.S Glasseyegal...Your story seems little too good, a couple breaking mutually, and no kids in three years, how convienent :confused: The prefect breakup :cool:

Nice site, I hope they will continue improving the city infrastructure. Atleast one thing I like is the city emblem "Pair of Ladies Breast Mountains" or Naaso Hablood.

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Originally posted by OG_Girl: The guy is not here to defend him self:o : Well he has himself to blame for that!

Originally posted by HornAfrique: If that was the case then the late Siad Barre would be my biggest role model :rolleyes: Next time cut the petty remarks, it isn't very funny. Maybe he is, who knows....LoL All kidding aside, all Iam saying is that lets not be hypocrites. Any Somali supporting any warlord is no better than any other Somali who is supporting some other warlord. N I gotta say I have seen your fair share of cheerleading. Smith-Walaal Don't confuse Yeey's arrogance and voilent tendencies as show of strenght. One can't solve everything with violence.We obviously need a leader who is strong, but we also need a man who listen to the masses, and is in tune with the people's desires. I just don't think Yusuf is that man.

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: Name :Otali Most likely to say: Satan is Puntlander. [/b] LoooooooooooooooL.....Dats so true. heck, if Otali was in Bosaso, or another Pland town, he would probably say that he saw satan hovering over in the sky just like Gen Boyklin said that he saw satan over the Xamar sky.

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: I hate this cleaner than clean argumnts that seems to come up all te time. [/QB] Smith....I agree with you on this statement, and I don't think Cadow, Qasim, Aideed, Caato, Suudi, Riyaale and so forth are any holier than Yeey. And Yeey had no part in waqooyi wars in 80s, mogadisho, or the bay/bakool genocide where hundred thounsad Somalis perished. However I must disagree with you about Yeey and his reign. This is hungry psychotic man who in his pursuit for power has done nothing good for Pland or for Somalia. If anything , everytime this man decides to do something, those that pay the price are usually Planders themselves. We have his long history to prove this, from Ciro coup, SSDF, to the recent internal Pland wars. What good can come out of supporting this man, lets stop supporting murderers, and start supporting those that will put people's interest first, and their's second. P.S I sincerely believe Pland exist not cuz Yeey is running it but cuz people there desire peace, and will defend peace if it is attacked by anyone.

I hope things go well for the nomads in Sanaag, and others in the drought stricken areas.

Originally posted by Xarago: ^ dadka ha iga dhex bixiin..but then again, isnt talking about the causes part of the process to reconcile? [/QB] Xarago....Do you think they really care the causes of the conflict, and even they talk about the causes, this will just stir up more problems. Think about it, if we (all Somalis in the horn) care about the causes of the internal Somali wars, our problems would have been solved long ago. We just live through, and don't ask why?. P.S Dadka kaama dhax bixii nayee, it is just that your bashing is sane and healthy. Thats rare in here

SmithnWestern...Well bro, you seem very subdued, but atleast you try to be graceful in defeat. if there is very thing that we could learn from fiasco, it is that we should not be cheerleaders for tyrannts whether be Yeey, the butcher of Hargaysa, or even Hiraale whom HornA labeled as being rightious :confused: .Could that cuz he is from Gedo/Caabudwaaq...lol What I simply want is to pin point the culprit who is responsible for the killing of hundreds in Juba. You cant all of a sudden turn around and say 'well it was worth the try all is forgiven' at the expense of innocent lives. Wasn't all forgiven in Sland, afterall Riyaale is the president there.Besides, if any Somali is to be hold accountable, then all must be held accountable, and that would mean everyone in Nairobi will be tried for one crime or another. Xarago....Somalis of all regions always play the qabiil card in victory or defeat. Well don't push Smith over the wall since everyone is in reconciling mood. Though this might be hard for you since it is clear that you particularly enjoy bashing planders, and their unfortunate so called leaders.

Originally posted by LIQAYE: Brother Che, I had not realised that mogadishu was obsessed with Yusuf, indeed using your litmus test of SOL posts the only people who seem to have been bewitched beyond reason by Yusuf are the puntlanders. Thats true for some Planders but for not all, and using the same litmus tests of SOL posts, Iam sure everyday you see Non-Pladers jumping their guns at any reference to Yeey in any post, and at the same time defending the at like C/Qasim, Cadow, Biraale, Sudi, and so forth. Now, this makes wonder what logic do people use to critise one criminal and in the same sentence come the defence of another. There are many myth's that have been created and fostered by the long years of war from the raison d'etre of both puntland and somaliland, to the histories that diffrent people adhere to all over somalia. Myths or no myths, the reason Pland or Sland (tribal enclaves)exist is simply cuz Mogadisho couldn't get its act together. This conviniently hides the fact that these political marauders where never representative of the aspirations of the southern somalis That might be so, but don't the people in the south have a voice, and desire some normalcy like their northern brethens, a normacly which I might add is not perfect, but yet better than total choas. To ascribe some other pervesity to southern somalis, will only mean that somalis will go there own seperate ways, an undertaking no one wants, but a conclusion that will be drawn if Yusuf attempts to rule multi-cultural, multi-clan somalia like mono-clan puntland Iam not ascribing any perversity to my brothers, but Iam stating sad fact . They must demand peace and seek some sort of normalcy, and way to regaining some sense of the lost Somali State. Yusuf will try to run Somalia like monoclan,Lets hope never gets that chance. Otali.....Plz ha ii faani nin some Sayid Barre lackey....Get me someone who had nothing with the past regime, and I will support fully.

Ayoub-Standard/textbook Somali...Hhhmmmmmmmm well, who is to stay thats the standard/textbook Somali. It is all matter of opinion. For all we know people in Baydhabo could be speaking the standard Somali.

You can't regulate behavior, but educating about the dangers of STDs including the HIV virus will go a long way to curb the spread. N I doubt this would reduce the divorce rate, we will just have more unhappy couples trapped in a meaningless marriages.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: So in essence what you should ask Che Guevera is: Not why Muqdisho is obsessed with Abdulahi Yusuf, but why is Abdulahi Yusuf obsessed with Muqdisho. :cool: Do you really have to ask this question...LoL Well here is simple answer, he wants to run the place with iron fist just the last guy before him.He wants to be the boss of all Somalis. Now, as for your inquiry about where Iam from, well my family are from Beledweyne and have left Puntland almost 80 years ago, but I guess what matters to Somalis is Qabiil...So Yeah Iam from the Qabiil that occopies Pland, and I make no secret of that fact. It is just that unlike some people I don't wear my Qabiil name as badge of honor, and I certainly don't have the need to mention my qabiil in order engage in debate. There are no prerequisites here to debating. So, now that I have answered your question, and satisfied your curiousity about my qabiil origins, can answer my questions , or perhaps you wanna ask another one or start guessing my sub-clan. We have established Yeey is power hungry pyschopath, the question is what do the boys in Mogadisho want. What do they do other than opposing Yeey everytime there is Somali conference. Xoogsade...I couldn't agree more bro. If I had my way all Sayidists would be out whether they were military or civilian. These men all have tyrannical tendencies.

Ok people, I don't usually start topics here, but I felt had to start...Two things kept repeating themselves in these threads, one being the issue of Somaliland, and the second being Yeey.Lets put the former issue aside, and lets disect the latter. Yeey in my opinion is psychotic man who would do anything to get what he wants, and history proves this looking back everything he had done. The man would kill his own brother if that would ensure the Somali presidency. We know what he is ,what he wants and frankly he neither denies or make no apologies for anything. Now the question is what does rest of Somalia wants and how does fit into Yeey's world. Starting up north, Somaliland has established itself as functioning democracy who feels its past grievances could only be addressed by outright independence from Somalia. Their goals are clear. How does Yeey fit into Sland issue, Well the Sool/Sanaag issue is Sland's main concern, and Yeey is right in the middle of it. As for Puntland, the establishment of this region wants unified federal Somalia where they can play an important role, and not take the back seat. They also want to considilate their lands, and resources so that their influence is ensured. They also would love to see one of their own to run the country even it means Yeey. They tolerate Yeey mainly becuase they value peace and stability, but also many believe that he is the right to put down any threats from the south or the north. In their mind, this man is both ruthless and decisive, and this makes the right to lead in this period of uncertainty. Now what do Mogadisho, and the rest of the south want, and how Yeey fits into that world. The reality is no one knows what they want, but we do know their shared disdain towards Yeey. Their only goal is to keep Yeey from becoming the president.Now that might be legitimate concern, but what else do they want for people in the south and larger Somali community.What are their goals and aspirations for Somalia. The warlords in mogadisho controlled the city for 14 long years in which they were not able to establish any viable local authority. They couldn't even agree on whether the airport and seaport should be opened. All they did is kill, abuse, and exploit the people , I dare say even more than Barre and Yeey. One thing is clear and this is also my sincere, there will not be peaceful and unified Somalia as long as Mogadisho is unstable and divided. Now one wonders, can the warlords in mogadisho unify the city, or will they continue obsessing about Yeey, a man literally many many miles away from Mogadisho ( the center of any future Somali goverment).

Well, Yeah, I would sit next to a disabled, they are very interesting bunch. Schools and employers here in the States are required to accomodate disabled people. IT IS THE LAW. Those with physical or mild mental retardation can function fine in society, and therefore should have access to everything. Those whoever with severe mental retardation unfortunately either stay with their parents or are institutionilized.