burahadeer;843682 wrote:

Aadan Jugle;843680 wrote: independence or nationhood??? watch your use of terms, independence was 1960 June 26, nationahood may 18 1991 You are right 26 June is the day Somaliland gained independence we can call 18 may nationhood or the re-independenceday of Somaliland or the day the union was dissolved.

Burahadeer its just talks you don't have to take it to serious Somaliland made it clear that their hard earned independence is not negotiable the question we have to ask our selves, is it possible for Somaliland and Somalia to have relations maybe if they start talking now maybe in the future. Keep in mind Somalia is a bit insecure to be left behind that's all its not like they will be landlocked or lose fertile land. Burahadeer in Africa Somaliland and Somalia talks should be the most easiest if its done in a proper way. In Africa we had Ethiopia and Eritrea case Ethiopia ended up being landlocked we had Sudan and South sudan in 2005 they agreed to have a referendum on independence. In 2011 they gained their independence sudan losing all its oil fields.What will Somalia lose nothing much they still have enough land they still have a long sea coast they still have fertile land and other natural resources matter infact its smart to support Somalilands recognition,Somalia can be the richest country in Africa. So buarahdeer its good to talk because peaceful coexistence between the two countries is something good for both countries.

burahadeer;843665 wrote: both sides are arming themselves as they aware nothing coming out of these talks...so stay tuned. Its a long process the international community told Somaliland to talk to Somalia it doesn't mean they will agree but it shows that Somaliland is showing good will its a formality and ofcourse that the koonfurians are unreasonable when it comes to dialogue. Even if talks fail Somaliland can say they tried their best but it didn't work out, its a path Somaliland never walked talking to Somalia. But lets hope they agree on something that is beneficial to Somaliland.

Dear Aaaliyaah i don't think the Mighty garaad clan can be occupied by qad chewing mafrishles. Dadku wa dad is jecel adeero khatumo na walala heshiinaya ha u baqan

A_Khadar;843605 wrote: Awoowe Tan iyada ah ee Somaliland waad nagu wareerisee, bal define somaliland.. Are you talking about the clan you belong to or the colonized somaliland by British? If it's later one, common sense is before jumping to that high, let those who live their agree on this.. Hadii kale dee be specific and talk about the ONE that needs to be a NATION.. Awoowe i am talking about the people of Somaliland not about English colonizers Awdal Borama Hargeysa Togdheer burco Gabiley Berbera Ceerigaabo Sanaag Sool Caynabo Laascaanoood

Carafaat;843594 wrote: My guess would be just before or just august. Oke so in august we shall see if there is new Somali nationalism.

^^ Carafaat when?

Somaliland Keen On Independence At London Conference 20 JUNE 2012 London — Officials from Somaliland and the southern Somali government met in London to discuss the future of Somalia and Somaliland, Garowe Online reports. Officials from the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) of Somalia and the breakaway region of Somaliland began talks in an undisclosed location in London. The Somaliland Somalia meeting was an issue agreed on at the London conference earlier this year. According to the final communiqué from the London conference held in February, this conference was organized to open up talks between the two governments to clarify their future relations. For twenty odd years, Somaliland's stance has been to gain independence from Somalia. Despite talks between the two governments Somaliland officials maintain that they are seeking independence. Speaking to the Somaliland media in Hargeisa Foreign Minister Dr. Mohamed Abdullahi Omar assured that Somaliland would not renounce its bid for independence. "We should maintain our dignity as an independent nation, deserving of international respect. Our sovereignty is non-negotiable," Dr Omar said. The issue of independence will likely cause an interesting debate over whether or not the TFG is willing to recognize Somaliland as sovereign nation. The TFG have kept an open mind approach to the conference but political analysts say the lack of a solid position on Somaliland's independence, could result in a failed conference. Somaliland pulled out of the talks last month when TFG President, Sharif Sheikh Ahmed appointed two ministers from Puntland state to attend the conference. After protest from the Somaliland government the Puntland ministers did not attend the conference in London. Somaliland and Puntland have hotly contested regions in northern Somalia which both lay claim to. http://allafrica.com/stories/201206201205.html

War Deg Deg ah: Shirkii London wararkiisii ugu dambeeyey xog rasmi ah Posted by Pi on June 20th, 2012 London (Pi) Shirkii maanta London uga bilowdey Dowlada KMG ah iyo Maamulka Soomaaliland ayaa xogta soo baxaysa sheegeysaa in Dowlada Ingiriiska oo ah Dowlad aad ugu xeel dheer wadahadalada siyaasadeed iyo dariiqada loo maro ay ku guuleysatay inay dhinacyada Soomaalida ku qanciso ajandayaal sahlan oo wadada u xaaraya inuu bilowdo isfahan, is aaminid iyo wada shaqayn dhexmarta dhinacyada Soomaalida oo kala qoqobnaa mudo ka badan 21 sano. Ajandayaasha maanta lasoo hordhigay labada dhinac ayaa ahaa kuwii looga hadlay shirkii London ee 23 feebaraayo, kuwasoo ay kamid ahaayeen Amaanka, Dhaqaalaha, ladagaalanka Burcad badeedka, ka hortaga Xagjirnimada, ilaalinta Xuquuqul insaanka iyo Ku dhaqanka habka Maamul wanaaga. Waxaa shirka maanta laga ilaaliyey waxkasta oo abuuri kara xasaasiyad, sida dib u midow iyo kala go’id labadaba. La soco wixii kasoo kordha shirka, adoo kala soconaya Puntlandi.com Puntlandi.com London

Saxiixeyaasha Roadmapka oo Nairobi shir uga socdo Magaala madaxda dalka Kenya ee Nairobi waxaa maanta ka furmay shir ay isugu yimaadeen saxiixeyaashii qorshaha Roadmapka ee Soomaaliya. Shirkan oo loo badinayo inuu noqon doono kan ugu danbeeya ee ay saxiixeyaashu yeeshaan kahor xiligan kala guurka ayaa waxaa la iskula soo qaaday arimo dhowr ah. Qodobadii maanta lagu gorfeeyeyna waxaa kamid ahaa in lasoo dhiso gudigii farsamada ee ka shaqeyn lahaa xulista golaha ansixinta Dastuurka iyo Baarlamaanka cusub. Sidoo kale waxaa layskula soo qaaday in la sameeyo guddi ka shaqeeya xalinta khilaafaad yary yar oo soo kala dhex galay odayaasha dhaqanka ee magaalada Muqdisho uu shirku uga socdo. Qodobada kale ee ay saxiixeyaashu maanta shirkoodu ku gorfeeyeen waxaa kamid ahaa sidii loo dar dar gelin lahaa howlaha socda maadaama xiliga Roadmapka ay mudo 60 maalmood ahi ka harsan yihiin. Si kastaba ha ahaatee asbuuca soo socda ayaa lagu wadaa inay si rasmi ah u bilowdaan howlaha la xiriira soo xulista golaha ansixinta Dastuurka cusub ee Soomaaliay. Horseed Media

^^ Not really he is doing an amazing job so good so far:D

^^ Siilaanyo wants to go down in history as the best President Somaliland ever had.

Gudoomiyaha Xisbiga Kulmiye Oo Fursad Ku Sheegay Wada Hadalka Somaliland iyo Somalia June 20th, 2012 Hargeysa (CNN)- Gudoomiyaha xisbiga talada haya ee Kulmiye Md Muuse Biixi Cabdi ayaa maanta ka hadalay dareenkiisa la xidhiidha wada hadalada Somaliland iyo Somalia. Muuse Biixi Cabdi oo ka hadlaayey munaasibad lagu soo dhawaynaayo murashax u tartami doono doorashooyinka golaha deegaanka xisbiga Kulmiye dhexdiisa ayaa si weyn uga hadlay arrimaha wada hadalka Somaliland iyo Somalia. Gudoomiyaah Kulmiye ayaa sheegay in wada hadalku maanta ka duwan yahay sidii kii 1960-kii, isaga oo hoosta ka xariiqay in waagaas Somaliland Somalia oo dawlada ka raadisay midaw, maanta’se sida uu sheegay la kala yahay labada dawladood. Muuse Biixi oo arrintaas ka hadlayaana waxa uu yidhi:- “Waxaan maanta umada u sheegayaa in aanu Somalia kala nahay sidii markii gumaystihii ingiriisku naga kacay, iyagan Talyaanigu ka kacay, sidaas daraadeed wax iskaga kaayo jiraana ma jiraan maanta” Mar uu ka hadlaayey shirka ka dhacaya maanta Londonwaxa uu yidhi:- “Shirka lagu qabanaayo dalka Ingiriisku waxa uu horseed u yahay qorshe ay beesha caalamku ku rabto inay ku kala saaraan Somaliland iyo Somalia”

faarah22;843527 wrote: you're funny, seems you have swallowed their falsehoods hook, line and sinker. status quo is firmly as it was 1990. Somalidu wa isku af laakin isma fahmaan thats why the international community is mediating:D

Che -Guevara;843525 wrote: We share SOL Yes and sanbuso

Carafaat;843517 wrote: Wishfull thinking. We share air, we share water, we share people, we share land, we share businesses, we share jaad, we share Al Shabaab, we share the problems of piracy, we share a country. That's how it is. How do we share air and water or land or country We share border a language maybe trade in the future And security is important for both countries.

Wadani;843516 wrote: The international community is not gonna recognize Somaliland, so 're-union' is inevitable. Somaliland politicians need to tell the shacab the truth in order to brace them for the coming reality. Its like saying Palestine will never get a seat at the UN so they might just give up their quest for statehood every one has to fight for his place in this world. We have seen it several times in Africa nations fighting for their place in the world and all over the world the people of Somaliland made their choice Somaliland republic is what they want and no one can take their sovereignty away and their hard earned Independency.

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Somaliland talks set to start in secret UK location Leaders from Somalia and Somaliland are due to start the first ever formal discussions on the future of the self-proclaimed Somaliland republic. It broke away in 1991 and wants to be a separate country - but it has not been internationally recognised. Mogadishu wants the northern territory to be part of a single Somali state. Since declaring independence, Somaliland has enjoyed relative peace in contrast to the rest of Somalia, which has been plagued by conflict. Timing of talks The talks are to be held over Wednesday and Thursday in a secret location near London. Britain, Norway and the European Union have said they want the two sides to negotiate a settlement. Somaliland agreed to enter into the talks during a February meeting in London, when 40 global leaders met to tackle piracy, terrorism and political instability in Somalia. But its administration says its priority is to remain separate from the rest of Somalia - and wants Mogadishu to recognise its independence. Analysts have questioned the timing of the talks - the mandate of Somalia's transitional government expires in August when it is due to hand over to an elected president. Somaliland unilaterally declared independence 21 years ago after the overthrow of Somali military dictator Siad Barre. It is relatively stable and holds regular elections, which have seen peaceful transfers of power. Source the BBC

Muxu yidhi Ileey qeyndhinka wax lugu qeybsada Ethiopia:D

Shirkii wada xaajoodkan Somaliland iyo Somalia oo ka furmay Chevering House June 20th, 2012 LONDON (Somaliland.Org)- shirkii wada hadalka Somaliland iyo Somalia ee ay marti-gelisay dawladda Ingiriisku ayaa maanta ka furmay Chevering House oo ku yaala duleedka Magaaladda London.Shirkan oo socon doona muddo laba maalmood ah, waxa la sheegay inay ka qeyb galeen Wasiirka Arrimaha dibadda Britain William Hugue iyo dublamaasiyiin ka socda dalalka reer galbeedka iyo daneeyeyaasha mandaqadda Geeska Afrika. Waxa shirkan ka qeyb galaya toban xubnood oo ka kala socday Somaliland iyo dawladda wakhtigeedu gabaabsiga yahay ee Somalia. Ergadda Somaliland waxa hoggaaminaya Wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, waxaana xubno ka ah Guddoomiye Ku xigeenka koowaad ee Wakiiladda Md. Baashe Maxamed Faarax, Guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaridka ah ee UCID Eng. Faysal Cali Waraabe, Wasiirka Madaxtooyadda Md. Xirsi Cali Xaaji Xasan iyo Wasiirka shaqadda iyo arrimaha bulshadda Md. Maxamuud Axmed Garaad. Somalia waxa uga matelaya Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha iyo amniga Cabdisalam Macalin Maxamed Mohamed, waxaana xunbo ka ah Wasiirka waxbarashadda Axmed Caydiid Ibraahim, Safiirka Somalia u fadhiya Jabuuti Cabdi Xuseen Guul-wade iyo laba xildhibaan oo ka tirsan baarlamaanka dalkaasi oo kala ah Xuseen Xasan iyo Maxamed Xasan Aadan. Weftiga Somaliland waxay shirka la tagayaan qaraar cad oo ka turjumaya maslaxadda madax-banaanidda Somaliland, iyagoo xalayba u gudbiyay Wasiirka Arrimaha dibadda Britain, kaasi oo ay ugu bal-balaadhiyeen rajada ay ka qabaan midho ka soo baxa shirkan iyo mowqifkooda ku wajahan gooni isu taaga iyo madax-banaanidda Somaliland oo ay tilmaameen inaanay wax gor-gortan ah ka galayn. Ergadan Somalia iyaga qudhoodu waxay miiska la soo fadhiisanayaan inay ku doodaan in midnimadda Somalia ay muqadas tahay. taasi oo haddii ay dhacdo suul-daari doonta shirka oo ku dhammaan doona natiijo la’aan. Illaa imika ma jiro war ka soo baxay dawladda Britain iyo labada dhinac ee wada hadalku u furmay ee Somaliland iyo Somalia. Shirkani wuxuu ka dhashay go’aamadii ka soo baxay shirweynihii dawladda Ingiriisku u qabatay xasilinta Somalia bishii Feberwari ee sanadkan oo qodobaddii laga soo saaray ay ku jirtay inay Somaliland iyo Somalia ka wada hadlaan mustaqbalkooda. Wada hadalkani waa kii u horeeyay ee Somaliland ay ku hor fadhiisato 21-kii sanadood ee ay Somaliland jirtay dalka qalalaasuhu hadheeyay ee Soomaaliya.

Carafaat Sh sharif and Siilaanyo agreed to this 3 weeks ago and the next talks will be between the two Presidents Siilaanyo and Sharif in the UAE. Muqdisho iyo hargeysaan islaha walaaleeh labada meelood eh:D

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