WHY IN GODS NAME ARE WE EVEN THINKING OF SUPPORTING WAR CRIMINALS IN SOMALIA You need to understand why some individuals support such criminals and why others don't speak out against them!! It is very difficult to encourage people to speak out against some warlords when we approach them with language that appears to be hostile to them or worse when some here support their own warlord bassed on pure clanish reasons. That what Jumatatu said clearly " my defence for the warlords of Mogadishu will stand as long as we have stooges in here who tend to give Yeey the status of 'Mother Teresa'" So here he is defending his warlords bassed " you do same"!. That is the situation most of the people here!If you want to help people to criticize one or another criminal , we need to see bothsides , NOT only we are allowed to criticise one warlord while we turn blind eyes on another whatever reason behind!.I think any idea of spreading "Anti warlords" will be rejected or ignored by many here! Honestly, I would say Honesty is the key here!. What I see here is not discussion forum but every one wants to spread and sell what they blindly believe! If you got different point of views you either a hater or trible minded!. The other thing they want to group you "with or against"... Just wondering can some one critize one situation with "some one" and agree an another situation OR you have to hate or to support?!!!! Do we have to criticize individuals or activities? Salam

May he rest in peace. He is not the first one and wont be the last one, hope Chechnians will carry on fighting Russian invaders. These people have right to get their freedom and I don't know why Russian don't want to give it to them! Salam

^^As my grandpa said when I asked him about Yusuf, his answer was " Wa askary, learned only how to kill, destroy not to defend or build a country...and Somali people deserve not less than one who kills them.. what a bad choice"!!! Salam

I think here the moral is that how some some people or even some scholers could be hypocricy " claim things themselves wouldn't do it".. what came to my mind was The Aayah Al-karemah which means " why you say what you wouldn't do it...." Knowing what right is or proper beheavers and doing the right thing are two defferent stories! Salam

^^LooooooooooL@She did not tell me her real name anyway Good one,thanks for sharing with us. Salam

^^ , maybe uncle going to his grave ..lol Salam

Sorry, but what is so important about UN? Isn't UN itself who devided our land into 5 parties and still wants to force us on their own solution of our situation without considering our will ?!! When my people stop crying like babies for others' help whatever they call their older brother, their long lost mom,best friend, or whatever names they invated to call others for beggging them!! Salam

^^That is it!! "But" only if there is differences between Yalahow and A/Y! Or Juma and A/Y supporters here(without naming them) Bothsides love blindly their holly clan that they don't see the reality! Salam

شكرا الأخ متكلم علي المشاركه. أعجبت بهذه الأبيات الله Ùوق الخلق Ùيها وحده والناس تحت لوائها أكÙاء والدين يسر والخلاÙØ© بيعة والأمر شورى والحقوق قضاء ماشاءالله مع الصوت ام كلثوم! لا يعلي عليه السلام

Welcome Mo_the_Somali! Salam

:cool: @MsWord Salam

^^^ True Hayam! For others, Let us stop the sweet talk and self promation here and get real. If you are 5'3 or 5'4..etc, you got no choice but to find a taller guy or you sound a dwarf couple with draft kids"..lol Salam

Msword, as an Arab( by culture and by blood) I can asure you that we got nothing incommon with Iranian other than Islam! Some other cultures even mistake between Somalis and Ethiopians or even Sudanese and I think that is your case. I remember one of my class mate our Science teacher asked her " are u from Sudan? and the girl replied " No I am from Somalia" . The teacher said with her egyption accent " they are all same"!! Note Sudan is next door to Egypt and once where one country Sudan and egypt! Just like I argue you that your culture and Ethiopian are same Any ways , I think I can understand where you comming from, You judging us from outside of our culture and also from stander of where you live ( west). I agree that Arab( Muslim ones) need to practise Islam rather than mixing with some cultures ( this case is most in Khaliij and Jordan) and stop imitating western cultures ( In egypt and lebonese and other part of Arab world)! PS:We are not only different by race but language, culture..etc..just like Indian muslims or Afganistans . But if you are still insist we are "same" then I think I have to stick with my brothers and sisters in Persian Gulf , I mean Arabian Gulf I have no choices do I? Salam

^^You either confused or you just talking for sake of talking!...Eastern cultures included Indian culture, Asians( Japanesse, Chiness...etc)Even included Somali culture!. Can you quote me where I even talked about prophet (ASW) or even Islam culture , islam teaching? Man, go argue some where else , you trying to drag us to pointless arguements. Salam

Ameen for the prayers. Where is the acount # so people can send donation? Jazaka Allah Khair Sky African. Salam

Ms Word, what I'm seeing is a lack of understanding between yourself and Supuu. Your responses are parallel, I don't see how you two went this far without understanding each other Mr Horn , you just read my mind MsWord, If your comments about Arabs just from this artical, I would make you feel better by telling you that Iran isn't Arab country or even Arab cultured they are persian , If you call Iranian person an Arab is just you calling Somali person an Ethiopian! Hope you understand my point. The Rendezvous, what are you talking about man! you are confusing me :confused: The girl is not talking about Islam, she is talking about " eastern culture"... you need to wear your glasses dear Salam

she was a chaste woman. Since she never been married so the law treats her as a chaste! The other point, to be honest, If I was her lawyer's position I wouldn't take her case cause it's hard to convince the judge that she's been raped in " his place"!. Don't judge this particualar case in western point of view. No way girl in our society go man's place and expect to not happen to her any thing cause respectful muslim man wouldn't ask a girl to come to his place!So in this case just going to his place that proves she agreed to have Adultrey with him. Dont know if the same ruling can be applied to men If you never married( I mean officially in the court or shar'an, even thought you are not a virgin the rule applies as a virgin)Whatever you are a male or femele.The law treats you as a chaste no one can say to you otherwise or argue since that needs 4 witness' to prove you otherwise , so no one will risk and put them selves into troubles..lol<---I am talking legally! The one who has defamed his name should pay the price. Agreed! Salam

...........Eastern women particularly Arabs have "Men are you Masters and You're inferrior" mentality that has been drummed in to them since childhood and a mentality that is hard to break for it dates back to before Prophet Maxamed S.C.W. and it still exists .... this is a styreotyping!! Let me back to the topic,any women can claim a guy raped her! In Iran or most of middleastern countries , any one is accused of rape, even if he is proven innocent will be discluded from the community and labelled for rest of his life. So, should there be way to protect men too.Also if court proven guilty he would face death plenty...So where is injustice here! before you just accuse our justice system you should know, the judge is humanbeen, he can't just use his emotions like most of you using it here.Isn't that easy you think of it. The bottom line is; The rape crimes should be proven!We can't just take her words. I worked the whole semester ( around four months , part of my gradution requerment) in the family court, believe me not all women whom claiming being a victims are innocent! Like there is an evil men there is an Evil women too. There is also a lot of guys being rapped, can you imagine a grown up man comming to court saying three huge women rapped him!!! Well happened front of me but guess what ? The judge told him to get lost and he's been charged for wasting " court's preciuos time" !! Just look other possibilities that men could be victims too. Not our system favoured men all the time. Salam

Originally posted by nuune: classique, that is so recist, u r attacking me, WHY LoooooL. nuune they still calling you nunne? Dammit , imagine a grewn up man, 6'5 and they call him nuune and he replies " Yes ". Salam

Mr Duke, that is all what you could say dear? But the guy was drunk and I saw him with my two eyes falling from the stairs...lol. They need to change him, He got a bad reputation . Also no Kuwaiti officials met him leave alone our FM Sheikh Sabaah! Salam :cool:

The link doesn't work! Salam

^^Eeeeewwwwww thanks God! I am not there. Dammit you scared me for minute. try harder next time My uncle is in the pictures . Salam

^^ That was his name huh? I have been to the welcoming party on Wednesday night in "Kaifan theatre" to welcome our so called Foreign Minister and the new Somali Government in general! Wallahi that night was funny! It was Wednesday night as I said and we invited some Kuwaiti officials too, but our beloved Minster embarrassed us so badly to say nothing. The dude was drunk he couldn't even talk that night let alone give a speech!! I think he was worse than Boris Yelsten, remember him!? What is more, I don't even think he met any high Kuwaiti officials let alone Kuwaiti FM. PS : Duke I understand you are trying so hard to show that this uncle of yours government is working but the reality is some thing else Salam

It's not like she gonna rape you! Just tell her how you feel about homesexualty. If she start to convince you simply tell her " back off" and I think she will respect you as you respected her choice of being a Lesbian!. Salam

انا لله وانااليه الراجعون. سلام