Somalia;857999 wrote: Wallahi it's from the article Here is the picture http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/holiday-somalia-turns-nightmare-part-2 I don't make fun of rape, my previous comment was supposed to be a sarcastic gesture against people who think it is. Good to know that.

Somalia;857997 wrote: Her wedding. Don't make fun of a serious situation, it is not a joke.

People should be told that according to Islam forcing a girl into a "marriage" renders such a marriage void and without any legal foundations. Their will be no marriage between the girl and the man she is forced to go with. Indeed it would be much better for the girl to have an out of marriage sexual relationship with a boyfriend of her choice as such a relationship would not involve rape and emotional torture.

Every tyrant in the South has his support base. No warlord can end up in the parliament or in Villa Somalia without material and moral support from his clan. So for the people of Somalia(Italiano) to change their fortune and build a better country for their children, they will have to stop supporting the wrong guys. Or better still, if Somalia is to completely change for the better, let the D-block, the H-block, and the R-block give up power for at least the next three decades and let the Banadiris and other minorities in the South make up the entire parliament and government. If these three major blocks stay away from politics, all the warlords and the thieves will immediately cease to have any public role and the nation will prosper without them.

Somalia;857458 wrote: Waryaa read between the lines, he is surprised by how much they kissed his white butt. What you call kissing a foreign visitor's butt, the civilised world calls it hospitality. And that is exactly why the Canadian tourist had written at length to distinguish the people of Somaliland from those with the infamous reputations. The people of Somaliland in general and those in Hargeisa in particular are great ambassadors for Islam and the Somali race and should be congratulated not snared at.

A_Khadar;857100 wrote: ^ Adiga Xanuun Galeydh ladhahaa kugu dhacay... You have no idea the feeling of Buhodle people after they found these reports and images: Xaglo is lost man and people are aware of his motivates and the agenda of successionists. Disturbing images People slaughtered by SNM militia in Sool-Joogto and didn't burry..Their remains were found after they vacated. You never miss a chance for a cheap propaganda. However, you do a very bad job of it. If you want to tell a lie tell a convincing one not a simple one like this.

Its so hard to protect the Somali image now a days when we have hyena eaters, suicide bombers, pirates, and similar barbaric groups all shamelessly calling themselves Somali. Well done Hargeisa and keep up the good work.

Bryan Karcha is a 22 year old Canadian backpacker currently in Hargeisa where he arrived on a short exploration trip on 14th August. By: Bryn Karcha HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) - Somaliland is far from the first nation I've traveled to. What struck me most, more than the pyramids of Egypt, the beaches of Cuba, the cathedrals of Europe or the Fjords of Norway was the most important wonder of any nation; it's people. I crossed the border from Ethiopia suffering from a guarded wariness common to most backpackers. Fear of being scammed, cheated, or worse are normal worries that come with any new country, particularly one where you know little of the language or culture. My fears were put to ease almost immediately by the warm greeting I received at the customs office at Wajale town as they stamped my passport and welcomed me to Somaliland. My next challenge was to get a ride to Hargeisa without spending a small fortune. I've found it's been a common custom for most countries' taxi drivers to charge outrageous prices at borders and airports, taking advantage of new travelers' ignorance. I was quickly shown to a waiting taxi and had the door held for me, the driver even did up my seatbelt! Every country I had been to before had charged me at least $25 USD for a short trip to an expensive hotel. My ride to Hargeisa cost me a modest $7 USD. No fuss. No haggling. What happened next far surpassed my wildest expectations. There's a saying in my country, Canada, that "there is no such thing as a free meal." Backpackers know this all too well. Many times, an offer of anything free results in a scam, where you are later accosted for money or a return gift. With this is mind, I was incredibly skeptical and guarded when, while stopped to put air in the tires along the way, a man gave me a free bottle of water, welcoming me to the country. I was amazed, and a little suspicious. Every time I had been given anything free before, it was followed shortly by demands for money. It slowly dawned on me as we drove away that this was a genuine gesture, something I had rarely experienced in my travels. It was far from the last. A short time later we pulled over again. Everyone climbed out of the car, and the women sitting in the back seat prepared to breakfast by laying out a delicious meal of biscuits, watermelon and sambusas. I had only eaten a few slices of old pizza some ten hours earlier, and had yet to buy any food, so all I could do was look on hungrily. To my surprise, one of the women motioned me over, and began to hand me what was to be the best meal I had eaten since landing in Ethiopia two weeks before. This was the first time I had experienced Ramadan in a Muslim country, and the hospitality amazed me. The woman smiled and pushed more biscuits at me, making sure I ate well before we set off again. I spent the rest of the ride marveling at the beautiful lightning storms over the desert plains, though the challenge of finding a hotel for the night was always on my mind. In most countries I had been to, finding a good place to sleep for the night is nearly impossible for a good price. Many drivers will take you to a terrible hotel that belongs to a friend, and then charge you an inflated price. While we were dropping off some of the passengers from the trip, my driver asked where I was staying. I still hadn't found a place to rest my head, and he seemed very concerned. He eventually took me to the Oriental Hotel. In Addis Ababa, I had paid as much as $50 USD for rooms without hot water, clean sheets, or even electricity. I was worried when I stepped into the clean and well decorated interior of the Oriental that there was no way I could afford it on my meager budget. When I asked at the front counter if they had any cheap rooms, the man at the desk apologetically said that all they had were doubles, and that would be $15 USD. Fifteen dollars is a good deal for a bed in a room full of travelers in most of the countries I had been to. Getting my own room, not to mention bathroom, TV and wireless internet amazed me. It even came with an excellent breakfast of scrambled eggs, bread and coffee. I woke up well-rested, and after enjoying a good meal and a long-elusive hot shower, I set out to explore. I steeled myself for the normal onslaught of beggars, scams and other dangers that tourists in a foreign country deal with. I was surprised when everywhere I went; people waved, asked me how I was doing, and welcomed me to Hargeisa and Somaliland. I didn't experience the ever-present pickpockets and panhandlers I had in Ethiopia, and everyone was happy to give me directions when I was lost; which was most of the time. Hargeisa was far from what I had expected. In Canada, not many people know of Somaliland. They tend to associate it with Somalia, and it brings only images of war and famine. The city I was exploring was the complete opposite: vibrant, safe and thriving. I spent the morning exploring before returning to the hotel during the hotter parts of the day. I'm still getting used to the heat. I decided to wander about again once the rain had cooled the city, and was once again surprised. I turned down a side street and was greeted by Shafie Jama, a Canadian Somalilander. It was great to have a fellow countryman to talk with, and I spent the next couple hours sipping coffee, talking politics, learning about the new nation around me, and enjoying another fantastic meal for which my charitable hosts once again refused to take money for. The only regret I can claim about visiting Somaliland was how brief my trip is. With only a few days until my flight leaves, I have to return to Addis Ababa almost as soon as I arrived. I can guarantee that I will be back though, as I have never experienced a people so kind or a place that defied my expectations so much. I hope that more travelers put Somaliland on their travel lists, and that the world takes notice of this hidden oasis in the Horn of Africa. Above all it offered what so many cities, towns and countries before it had failed to deliver; a home for those far from theirs. http://www.somalilandsun.com/index.php/in-depth/history/1280-somaliland-no-fuss-no-haggling

Maaddeey;857096 wrote: If you are a muslim, you have to be a terrorist, full stop!. Terrorising the enemy of Allah, that is a verse from the quran, I know that much from the Deen, yaa sheikh/a. Did I hear you say predator?, wait for my next post!. Opophis, sorry magacaaga ma karee!, I don't post every thing about the enemy, trend aan ku socdaa, lakin waad cusubtahayoo mindhaa dib baad ka garan doontaa!. Ps. Qof baa diyaaradaha dhacay post'gareeyey 2 beri ka hortaa, hal comment-na kama bixn, taas maxay kuu sheegeysaa?. And the enemies of Allah are? Starving Somalis I am guessing? You and you ilk need psychiatric counselling. You are suffering from deeply imbedded issues.

The Wagosha community should be given their full political rights.

What a fiasco!! Who is this tyrant holding the post of the Director General of the MoE? Is he even qualified to be in the government?

Yusuf M Hasan HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) – The Abaarso Tech Institute has apologized to Somaliland students who were to sit for an entry examination. The apologies were extended by Abaarso Tech's Co-Founder & Managing Director Mr. Jonathan Starr during an interview with Somalilandsun in Hargeisa where he informed that the failure to conduct entry examinations for 280 students in Burao was occasioned by unethical procedures undertaken by the ministry of education-MOE. The youthful American philanthropist who said that the institute is pursuing avenues to ensure that the 280 interested students who were from as far as Erigavo town in Sanaag region sit for entry exams also decried the handling of the incident by the Ministry of education. Said he, "We are very embarrassed by the actions of police officers who acting on MOE orders utilized brutal force to disrupt entry examinations in Burao" On the 6th August 2012 Burao police disrupted entry exams after they stormed the hall where the 280 students from Togdheer, Sahil, Sool and Sanaag regions who had successfully fulfilled all Abaarso tech had assembly to sit the exams. The police say their action came after information from the ministry of Education to the effect that the entry examinations were illegal as the Abaarso Tech-AT management had not cleared the issue with the MOE. According to the AT managing director this accusation is absurd as the MOE had provided its approval following a letter of request from AT, said he, "We have an official approval letter from the MOE duly signed and stamped by the Director General on 15th April" The MOE letter of approval which was availed Somalilandsun states, following a request from Abaarso Tech Trustees and Management, the MOE has allowed the AT to conduct entry exams for prospective students before final year exams are computed. Follow this link to view the official letter follow this link http://abaarsotech.org/ The AT management which claims that Ministry of Education is accusing it of attacking the government of Somaliland wants the MOE to accept it has blundered thus apologize to the institute, the 280 students and parents. Suspicious manner its activities were legal ""why should the education minister accuse the AT of breaking rules while documentary evidence prove that the AT acted legal" Said Mr. Starr While documentary evidence provided by Mr. Jonathan Starr detailing the whole saga (see below) proves that the AT acted with official acquiescence they also indicate that different departments and offices in the Ministry of Education are not working in Harmony. With matters deteriorating at a fast pace the AT management is considering shifting its never ending flow of dollars to another country where education officials act ethically and respect agreements. Since inception three years ago the Ultra-Modern Abaarso Tech situated in Abaarso in Gabile region has managed to not only provide quality technical education but secured American and South African university scholarships to Somaliland students, a feat that hasn't happened in Somaliland for decades. Though the Abaarso Tech desires to continue providing its education related development support to Somalilanders there are very many needy children in other parts of the world thus strategizes to shift camp if the Ministry of education does not stop ongoing negative campaigns. According Mr. Jonathan Starr the AT Co-founder and Managing director, reasons behind the MOE's anti Abaarso Tech activities are related to his refusal to loan an extra $100,000 on top of earlier one of $171,626 whose refund date is already in default. The AT managing Director believes that the MOE should not persecute needy Somaliland students in its quest to punish him personally. Said he, "I have contributed hundreds of thousands in US dollars to Abaarso tech from my personal coffers and willing to contribute more but The following outlines the events leading up to and through the AT Entry examination in Burao. 1) On April 15th the DG of Education signs and stamps a letter Approving AT to give its entry examinations anytime it wants. Proof: This document is attached. 2) On April 20th the DG goes back on this agreement in an email to Jonathan Starr. However, Jonathan Starr responds to the DG that any Official change to the DG's letter should be made in writing. The DG Responds "of course I will do that in writing for you." Proof: This email correspondence is attached. 3) This official letter new letter "in writing for" AT was never sent to AT. Proof: The MOE is not even claiming a new letter was sent. There is no question that AT never received a new letter. 4) While no new letter was sent replacing the DG's initial approval, Abaarso Tech wanted to do everything properly so it sent Harry Lee, Nura Gureh and Hassan Jama to meet with the Minister of Education. The Minister explained to these 3 respected individuals that the head of the examination board, Daud, had objected to the agreement but if Daud would now agree, then the Minister would be fine again approving The agreement. Harry, Nura and Hassan then went to Daud and Daud Agreed to let the examinations happen whenever AT wanted so long as Any student accepted who later was found to fail the national exam Would then be removed from AT. AT fully accepted this arrangement. Proof: Testimony of Harry Lee, Nura Gureh, and Hassan Jama. 5) Harry brought a new letter for the Minister to sign so as to Reinforce the old letter. After time went by without response, Harry Followed up with the DG who told Harry "the letter has accidently been Lost." Harry and other AT staff brought 2 more letters to the DG over The following weeks only to twice more have the DG declare that "the Letter has accidently been lost." Proof: Testimony of Harry Lee and Lindsay Moore. 6) Three days before the entry examination, AT student Suleikha Mohamed Hashi reports that her mother, Amran Ali, saw Daud and Daud Told her that he knows we are giving the exam in Burao and he has the List of students who took the 8th grade exit exam ready so that AT can Check that the students were 8th graders after the entry examination Is complete. This clearly shows that Daud was accepting the Examination. Proof: Testimony of Amran Ali and Suleikha Mohamed Hashi. 7) With the original letter in hand, the DG clearly saying that the Minister planned to sign a new positive letter, oral approval from the Minister and head of the examination board in front of 2 respected Somalis, and continued clear approval from Daud, AT went to Burao to Give the entry examination thinking it had the full MOE support. 8) On examination day, the Minister of Education called Burao to block The examination. This left 280 registered students sitting in the hot Sun for hours while fasting. Later these students were chased away by armed guards. The leaders of Burao then met with the DG of Education but the DG snuck out of the meeting without telling them he was leaving and drove back to Hargeisa. The Minister of Education then declared that AT was giving an illegal exam and that AT was trying to start a riot. This is despite AT not being aware of a single Burao student or resident taking a single violent action. That night police came to hotels to look for AT's staff in Burao. The next day police deported AT's staff back to Hargeisa. Proof: Testimony of AT staff plus countless Burao students, hotel owners and officials. Conclusion: First the Ministry's unethically interfered with the examination after giving AT every reason to believe it was approved. Far worse, the MOE put AT staff at risk and greatly insulted them with their ungrounded claim that AT was inciting a riot. This lie puts AT's foreign staff in physical danger from police and others who might believe the lie. Sadly, this is just the latest in a long series of events in which the Ministry of Education has broken all ethical standards to damage AT in favor of special interests. Even more shocking, the MOE has done this while requesting Jonathan Starr to fund yet another $100,000 of his personal money to support AT. It seems that the Ministry of Education believes that AT staff will continue to put considerable time and money into Somaliland no matter how the Ministry behaves. The Ministry is very wrong about this and the Burao examination was the last straw that we were willing to take. There are many needy children around the world and AT has proven that it can be extremely effective in educating them. In fact, in just 3 years AT has been able to get American and South African scholarships for its students, a feat that hasn't happened in Somaliland for decades. AT would have been happy to work to make Abaarso Tech the best school in Africa, however, since Somaliland's Ministry of Education has proven its desire to unethically attack AT, we will simply move to a more friendly country. Abaarso Tech Management

Alle ha u naxariisto marxuunta dimatay. But why do Somalis clap at inappropriate times and speeches like this? Were the people in the video clapping because someone died in the sea?

There are two other genuine groups too. 1. Qurbodoon- those who desperate want to leave their homeland and, 2. Qurboqalbi- or those who never left the Somali peninsula but have the mentality and culture of the Diaspora .

I know prime minister Abdi Wali is a decent guy, but your obsession with Puntland personalities is tantamount to idolatry. It amounts to clan worship and is a bad thing in this Holy month of Ramadan. For a change, why don’t you be impartial and also support the many other non MJ unsung heroes and heroines working had to restore peace and order in the failed country?

Fasting is just the latest of a long list of Islamic rituals proven by science. Few years ago it was also proven by medical scientists that male circumcision is an effective method of controlling the spread of HIV.

AsadSL;855152 wrote: He's a British-Somalilander. He was Born in Gebiley region of Somaliland. Just because he lived in England for a longtime doesn't mean he's no longer from Somaliland No matter where his tribe hails from, he is a British-Somali and is seen and referred to as such by everyone. I am not denying him his roots but the fact is he left Africa as a child, grew up in London, has a non-Somali family, and surely has no plans to ever return to the Horn. Also he represents Great Britain on the world stage and his success is Britain's success in the medal table not Somaliland's. So Mr Assad, on what basis are you associating this man's Olympic glory with Somaliland? Because of his tribe? If anyone should take pride in Mo Farah's success, it should be all the Somalis in the UK .i.e, the British-Somalis.

Taleexi;855011 wrote: AUN. Others like him may meet the same faith. So you support this kind of cold blooded murder? May Allah's mercy be on the dead man's soul. This sort of terrorism will surely not be allowed to continue in Somaliland and the people of Sool will bring to justice the cowards behind this ugly crime. I suggest your lot come up with something different next time, may be a little more civilised tactics to win Sool's support.

Nudawn;854395 wrote: I'll support the seperation of somaliland from Somalia, a nation with no sustainable water supply, arible soil for crops and no known natural resources. We'll just slap tarriffs on good imported from somaliland. Boom there goes your biggest market to trade with. A quick look at Somaliland's current trading partners, its agricultural sector, the many contracts it signed with foreign mining companies, its proven vast aquifers, or just its overall economy will help you write a more intelligible comment next time.

Carafaat;854360 wrote: by DISSIDENT NATION on AUGUST 4, 2012 in POLITICS with NO COMMENTS In 2005 the separatist Sudanese People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) and the ruling National Islamic Front (NIF) of Sudan came together to end the Second Sudanese Civil War that had ravaged the country for a generation. In the Naivasha Agreement brokered in Kenya, President Omar Al-Bashir offered the SPLM an independence referendum following a six-year period of cooperation and ceasefire. In 2011, South Sudan voted for independence from the Khartoum regime and went its separate way. Now, Somaliland may be getting a similar deal with its mother nation of Somalia. Since the birth of the federalist movement in Somalia and the reintroduction of Somaliland to national politics there has been great fanfare about the fate of Somaliland within the context of regional politics. Earlier this year in the United Arab Emirates, a leader of Somaliland met with his Mogadishu-based counterpart for the first time in twenty years. A nation in waiting Somaliland has maintained its political status quo through a rigid program of indoctrination based on forthcoming independence. It has allowed the political establishment to stay in place and for peace to prevail amid minor disagreements. But a generation of repeated promises of independence from Somali are starting to fall on deaf ears, and the Somaliland public is tired of the long wait. With pressure building on its current leader Ahmed Mahamud Silanyo, an ex-rebel and planning minister during the regime of Siad Barre, the Somaliland leadership is increasingly changing its tactics to achieve the evasive independence its people have been promised. President Silanyo’s task is no different than any of his predecessors; to bring out the recognition of Somaliland by the international community. Working with Somalia The people of Somaliland believe their worst mistake as a state was the union with Somalia during independence in 1960. The commonly-held belief in Somaliland has always been that it is the people of southern Somalia holding their independence goals back. However, it is Somaliland’s own political misguidance that is keeping it in the current status quo. While South Sudan seized the opportunity for an independence referendum from the Khartoum regime, as did Eritrea from the Addis Ababa regime in Ethiopia, Somaliland has turned its back on Mogadishu, depriving itself of real independence. In years previous, Somaliland’s leaders were forced to sit under the banner of Somalia to get an international audience, and this was viewed as a form of public humiliation by the region’s leaders, and no less for its people. The stigma of being seen alongside a broken Somalia was the driving force behind Somaliland’s fruitless twenty-year isolation, during which only peace was established. Somaliland’s isolation has taken its toll on the state far beyond the political arena. Even the administrations in Mogadishu and Puntland were able to garner wider outside support and investment during the war than democratic Somaliland. The referendum In breaking from the failed methods of years past, Somaliland is now fully engaged with the regime in Mogadishu. And behind closed doors there is a great political game ongoing to resolve the status of Somaliland. In exchange for relinquishing claims to the entirety of the former borders of British Somaliland, whose historic territorial extent is the basis of modern Somaliland, the regime in Mogadishu will offer an independence referendum. This was a demand from the traditional elders of Eastern Somaliland, who have given support to Somalia’s current president Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and are currently parked in Mogadishu with key figures in tow. The referendum will last for a period of five years according to insiders in the Somali capital. Whereas in Sudan, the SPLM leader Salva Kiir was given the position of vice president, there will be no vice president from Somaliland. Instead, the referendum will be be based on political capitals. For a period of five years, the Somali capital will be switched to a different city, but whether symbolic or political we don’t know for sure yet. Three cities will share the rotation; the first is the current seat of power Mogadishu, the second is the Somaliland capital Hargeisa, and the third will be a city from Puntland so as to not alienate other Somali stakeholders. It’s unclear if Puntland will choose its current capital Garowe or its commercial capital Bosaso to represent it in the rotation. In year one the capital will be Mogadishu, in year two Hargeisa, in year three Bosaso, in year four Mogadishu again, and in year five it will end in Hargeisa for the symbolic referendum vote. During the fifth year Somaliland will have the spotlight of the nation shining on its capital for the momentous occasion.. When the new Somali constitution left out the status of the Somali capital, it wasn’t a mistake. For good reason the clause on Somalia’s political seat was deliberately left out of the constitution. The decision on a new capital will be left up to Somalia’s member states, and the extent of Somalia’s decentralization program allows all parties, even Somaliland, to voice their concerns and decide their own fate, alongside the central government and not under it. DissidentNation.com Yet another garbage written somewhere in the web.

Its so embarrassing to hear all the ridiculous talk that Mo Farah is a "Somaliland athlete". What the hell are people thinking about? He clearly represents Britain, waves it flag, and his medals go to that country. So where does Somaliland feature in his sports life? Its like China claiming the win of an ethnic Chinese who competes for the United States. Get over it people he is a British-Somali and not a Somalilander. Somalilanders should not bask in the glory of other nations but should support their own home grown athletes who might one day represent Somaliland on the world stage.

They are from prosperous nations so they don't need to be Somali. They have already got good lives in their countries so don't need to look for "rights" in black Africa.

Seeing all this water and greenery makes the pain of knowing Somali children and mothers are needlessly dying of hunger and thirst in the south even more unbearable. Forget about the potential of the Somali coast that continues to generate billions of US dollars for foreign trawlers every year, these farmlands can easily feed populations several times greater than the few millions inhabiting the south. Sultan Timocadde was right indeed when he said "Soomaali caqligii doonbuu karraacay".

The Khatumite revisionists might turn the terror raids of defeated early 20th century bandits into a romantic fable, but they will not be allowed to lie about a well documented European modern history.

The money spent on just one trip of Sheikh Dalxiis can stop the abuse of a lot of these unfortunate children.