When we united with them they laughed, when they took all the ministries and positions and even our reserves in currency they laughed over their jalato's ( ma ma mia) When they had africa's second largest army and they hired south african mercanies to bomb hargaisa they laughed. When we formed the SNM they laughed, when we destroyed their entire army in the north they cried, when we armed the rebelion of south somalia and removed their uncle siad barre through the barrel of a gun to leave somalia they cried, when the massacres they intended were afflicted upon them in the south they cried, when Somaliland declared its independence they cried, when somaliland continuesly embrasses them they cry, THE DAY SOMALILAND ATTAINS INTERNATONAL RECOGNTIION THEY WILL COMMIT SUICIDE.

Listen people: hate all you want in reality, we all know that Somalia has no government and will never have a unified structure of governance. kenya and ethiopia simply use it as a means to generate funds from the world. so all in all...Somaliland regardless of what is said will continue its march towards development and will reach its goal regardless of time. so all in all...keep talking, because like they say talk is cheap and its plentiful.

Listen people: hate all you want in reality, we all know that Somalia has no government and will never have a unified structure of governance. kenya and ethiopia simply use it as a means to generate funds from the world. so all in all...Somaliland regardless of what is said will continue its march towards development and will reach its goal regardless of time. so all in all...keep talking, because like they say talk is cheap and its plentiful.

Xaaji Xunjuf;793751 wrote: ofcourse the unity of Somalia is a must look what division did in Somalia Ethio kenyan ugandans burundian troops all entered Somalia. Without Somaliland no unified Somali state can exist. so in reality Somaliland holds the keys to a unified Somali state? TFG is unelected, when an elected government comes from Somalia then the elected government of Somaliland should hold talks, not about unity about terms of disolving the union, sharing the debt, military and bilateral relations. :cool: Somaliland is gone even if it takes another 1000 years.

Jiiroow Bakaal;793752 wrote: Suaasha waa Siilaanyo ma hadley mise waa loo diidey? looooooooooool i think you need to etheir get your eyes checked out or learn how to read, seeing all the oo's you are using i think a bit of both is required.

xabasha waa xabashi xaji...they invaded before and left, they have invaded and will leave again. Ethiopia is not now or ever interested in peace in Somalia believe me. So for the moment we just play the game as they are playing...but we all know garowe accord is nothing and means nothing to the people of somalia. as we read from mugdisho and the south.

the day he is elected by the people of Djibouti is the day he can provide credible "opinion" to other..at the moment he is nothing more then a dictator, unelected who lives off of french military aid. The guy needs alshabab to continue the american military base operations in Djibouti. :cool: i.e. ka daab maha..hahaha:D

good point these somalians actually think Ethiopia and kenya care about stability in somalia.

From the office of the president of Seychelles: http://www.statehouse.gov.sc/index.php/2011-07-15-09-16-47/news-archive/910-seychelles-and-somaliland-taking-steps-towards-prisoner-transfers Seychelles And Somaliland Taking Steps Towards Prisoner Transfers February 23 2012 -- Seychelles President James Michel and President Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo of the Republic of Somaliland have discussed, in a meeting in London today, the transfer of convicted Somali pirates currently in prison in Seychelles, to Somaliland to service their sentences. The meeting was attended by the British Minister for Africa, Henry Bellingham, Seychelles Minister Home Affairs, Environment, Transport and Energy, Joel Morgan, Seychelles Minister for Foreign Affairs ,Jean-Paul Adam, and the British High Commissioner to Seychelles, Matthew Forbes, the Somaliland Minister for Foreign Affairs, Dr Mohamed Andillahi Omar, as well as the UNODC Counter-Piracy Programme Coordinator Alan Cole. The two leaders signed a joint statement to recognize their joint concern about the serious impact piracy has on the region and on international security, and agreed that it is vital to ensure pirates are brought to justice. President Silanyo confirmed that both the Council of Ministers and Somaliland Parliament had now approved and passed the piracy and prisoner transfer legislation to allow the transfer of convicted pirates. “This commitment between the Seychelles and Somaliland represents an important step forward in the development of a sustainable regional justice mechanism, that will see suspected pirates apprehended by naval forces at sea, prosecuted by regional states, and if convicted, imprisoned in the region,” said the statement from the two leaders. President Michel and President Silanyo have also committed to securing the first transfer of 19 convicted pirates from Seychelles to Somaliland by the end of March 2012, in accordance with a Memorandum of Understanding agreed between the Republic of Somaliland and the Government of Seychelles, and based on Somaliland’s prison capacity in dealing with pirate transfers. “ Somaliland is an important partner in the fight against piracy as it remains a pirate-free area of stability. We commend the Somaliland government for achieving this stability and for its efforts to share the burden of incarcerating the pirates,” said President Michel following the meeting.

ill be honoust, i have no hope for anything in Somalia. There are to many waring interests, fringe groups etc and tribes all fighting against one another all distrusting others..for a stable state to be built it must be built on the backs of educated people, Somalia as a state in my view needs to start from scratch. new flag, new peace agreement that involves everyone, it has to except the reality that Somaliland and Somalia were two seperate countries that united and have now left and work on salvaging whats left of the other half. Its that or the current state of affairs.

Saalax;793776 wrote: If there was one united Somalia there wouldn't be a need for a dialogue between Somaliland and TFG(Somalia government). somalidan konfurta saxib, ma ka dab ba mise biyohooda aya wax ku jira...:cool:

Nuxurka Khudbaddii Madaxweynaha Somaliland ka jeediyay Shirkii London February 23rd, 2012 Comments Off Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Wasaaradda Arrimaha dibadda Somaliland ayaa qoraal ay soo saartay kaga hadashay qodobadii uu gelinkii dambe ee maanta ka jeediyay madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) shirweynihii London caawa fiidkii lagu soo gabo-gabeeyay. Sidaasi waxa lagu sheegay qoraal ka soo baxay wasaaradda khaarajiga oo ku qornaa af Ingriiisi oo u dhignaan sidan:- “Somaliland benefited from attending the London Conference in the following ways: • President Silanyo was treated no differently from the head of a state of a recognized country. He held bilateral meetings with the Foreign Secretary, William Hague, and the Development Minister, Andrew Mitchell on the eve of the Conference, 22 February 2012. • At the conference, which was chaired by Prime Minister David Cameron, he also sat shoulder to shoulder with leaders from other countries in the conference. Several delegates made positive references to Somaliland in their speeches to the conference. • President Silanyo had the opportunity to place on record before world leaders the desire of the Somaliland people to be recognized as an independent state. He called for “an international discussion about the future of Somaliland, launching a process leading to recognition of our state”, adding that “we are convinced that an internationally recognized Somaliland will be even better placed to contribute to a stable and peaceful Somalia.” • The Somaliland President and Foreign Minister Omar had the opportunity to have bilateral meetings in the margins with the Foreign Ministers of Turkey, Denmark, Netherlands and Switzerland. Dr Omar also met US Assistant Secretary of State for Africa, Johnnie Carson. • At a ceremony on 22 February, President Silanyo launched the Somaliland Development Corporation which will help attract foreign direct investment to Somaliland. • Also on 22 February, and despite pouring rain in central London, the Somaliland Diaspora turned out in force for a rally in support of international recognition for Somaliland. In the presence of President Silanyo, the organizers handed in a letter to No 10 Downing St about international recognition for Somaliland.

Xaaji Xunjuf;793767 wrote: Salax the question is where will Somaliland leaders and the leaders of Somalia discuss affairs and possibly restore relations. But its good that the international community supports it. Its in the interest that Somaliland and Somalia talk about common goals and mutual interest in the near future.The question is what kind of authority will Somalia have after august lets hope for the best inshallah. This one sentence highlights that Somaliland is itself different, therefore as a seperate authority if the TFG fails of which it almost definately will unless some miracle takes place within the next 6-7 months. No viable authority will be born after, as the processes of anything new are not clear or mutually excepted not to mention alshabab and the global lack of funds in regards to assisting and paying for AU troops the mandate will eventually fall apart as well in time. Ethiopia will withdraw and kenya as they did before. so all in all...it looks like a dominated southern somalia by alshabab will emerge as of the next few years and eventually they will retake land taken by Ethiopians and Kenyans under the gize of "somali troops". This is why the world is so scared. however, we all know that the next few years will determine everything. So good luck to all. Somaliland needs to take the money re-inforce its army and security. and prepare for anything that comes from the south be it alshabab or otherwise. :cool:

With or without recognition Somaliland will exist. 20 years of development, whatever happens to Somalia is a matter for somalia..:cool: unfortunately seeing the last 20 years im not so optimisitic. :cool:

saxib..ask yourself why they call themselves punt land...hahaha...they use an english word land to describe themselves even though they have no history within the british empire or even of english language, puntland walahi waa iska somaliland wanabe...there entire existence is based on coping Somaliland. thats it. If somaliland says it will wipe its As** puntland will follow suit and say the same thing. The land of punt as recorded by the queen of egypt Hashepsuit was no where near bosaso or garowe, it was between zeilla and erigavo a.k.a. the Onsi trees of erigavo. i.e. Somaliland. talk about infringement, fake history, copy cat, lakin dont worry as the saying goes, whats not built on sterdy feet tend to collapes and inshallah this pirate criminal enterprise will be its own demise. :cool: as is proving the case thus far. to bring this demise closer to hand i would perfer war but they to scared to attack as they keep running back into Garowe every time. :cool:

A_Khadar;793680 wrote: NG, did Siilanyo speak in the conference? Or hs president, Sh. Sharif, spoke on behalf of all Somalis? If that it's the later one, as Xiin said, there is no any further explaination needed. Everything is clearer than a day light. Somalia is one and has only one President and one PM. Dont let the pirates confuse you, Silanyo spoke on behalf of Somaliland, Sheriff spoke on behalf of Somalia. Somalida been badana haha

Carafaat;793679 wrote: Agree. Somaliland should assist And support Somalia. This is not the time for talk about recongnition, first there has to be a goverment for Somalia. And Somaliland will support till then. Somaliland will only support Somalia if there is a mutually recognised and signed agreement: between both parties that is mutually binding that after an interm period a full referendum for somaliland independence take place within Somaliland, as was the case, in south sudan, kosovo and east timor. Without this..im afraid i just dont trust Somalia. :cool:

dude i was just reading it... http://radiohadhwanaag.net/Press%20Release%20-%20Somaliland%20-%2023%20February.pdf thats the statement from the Somaliland foreign ministry... From the looks of it, Great Speech... key points, the pre-1991 borders have forever changed, furthermore Somaliland is older then Somalia we two equal states, the international community should start a dialouge on the future of Somaliland...Good move. publicity and funds successfully attained. Mission Complete...We will never stop MOFO's even if it takes another 1000 years, we will get stronger year after year till we get recognition.

Somalia;793535 wrote: This is fake news. "Galgalanews" lol. Why are you so obsessed with spreading fake news about Puntland? Care to answer that Mr? You don't seem like this on the other site.. seems real enough to me considering its not the first time...hahah :cool:

Xaaji Xunjuf;793629 wrote: ^^ Somalida qaar ba aminsan in dawladaha Yurub ay dawlad u dhisayso, war Somali uun ba dawlad dhisan karta calaamku they can support you only but thats about it. xaaajiyow...its been 20 years now saxib save your breath dadkan waa iska finished unfortunately.

Somalia;793422 wrote: It's funny, the moves of a desperate man. its a failed state...yet he is the president of a success story, yet he is the desperate man...just another tale from the paralel universe of the pirate realm.

Somalia. Thats what they said about the peoples republic of china and today they are at its gate begging..international relations is a funny business my pirate friend. all you have to know is with or without recognition, Somaliland will stand for another 1000 years. and somalia as a unified country can never be put together without the approval of Somaliland...dont cry to hard. :cool:

Caano_Geel;793525 wrote:

20 years later they still telling you the problem of somalia is for somali's i.e. shove it. hahahah:cool:

In all honousty i think a person who honoustly believes that a 5 hour conference can magically bring about peace is the real retard. but being a pirate im use to many retards hailing from that region. but thats why its so easy taking you down everytime. :cool: