Aaliyyah;791142 wrote: ^ if by event you mean the somali conference in london. He will receive the invitation soon enough. Unlike, your warlord silanyo who was forced to attend it. your warlord has no say whatsoever in anything. How sad is that..if I was you I would cry a river...oh wait you are still living the delusions that Somaliland will get a recognition LOL Adaa cirka roob ku og... anyways, I dont need trolls in my thread. Either write something constructive and make sense..or just to stop writing. salaam i think begged is the word your looking for and after the British met his requirements why not .

Raamsade;791143 wrote: Old news. Somalia was already partitioned along clan lines, autonomous administrations, secessionist enclaves, Alshabaab, Ahlu-Sunah wal Jameeca, Galmudug, Ximan iyo Xeeb, Dooxada Shabeelle, TFG, Kenya controlled regions, Ethiopia controlled regions, pirates controlled regions, etc. So lets not pretend there is anything to divy up. I have no doubt that nothing but positives will emerge from this conference. Somalia will finally be brought in from the cold after decade plus of isolation and neglect. The world abandoned Somalia in the aftermath of Black Hawk Down fiasco and that didn't help Somalis one iota. In fact, Somalia became safe haven for international fugitives, criminals and terrrorists like Osama bin Laden and Ayman Al-Zwahiri who oddly enough never took their dear Jihad to their native lands of Saudi Arabia and Egypt respectively... but somehow they found willing recipients in Somalia because as you may know Somalia is inhabited by the dumbest people in all of human history. Isolation did Somalia no good. I welcome the re-engagement of the world for a change. And it shouldn't bother us the Brits may have their own ulterior motive for organizing this conference because Somalia's interests and that of Brits mirror each other. The Brits and the world by extension want pirate free Indian Ocean and Red Sea, so do we? The Brits want the defeat of terrorists in Somalia so that their own Muslim population don't go to Somalia to get terrorism training coming back years later to the UK with devastating effect, so do we. The world wants some semblance of law and order in Somalia oversee by semi-competent administration, so do we. you have high hopes for a conference that will last for 5 hours hahaha..

Freedom;791124 wrote: Pirate land prez haha

Taleexi;791049 wrote: I prefer being free or die trying saaxiib. You are brainwashed kid and we all know who massacred by whom. Let the count begins! Though wishes remain only to be wishes. A fact, some areas of Khatumo are under your sphere of influence but stay tuned Khaatumo is deliberation mode of removing the shackles of occupation from itself on. That's what I love about u guys predictably suicidal and that's just the response I was hoping for. Good luck to you guys then an eye for an eye it is then. :-)

Taleexi;791031 wrote: Khatumo wants to live in peace with "SL". If Somalilanders want so. firstly the " " aint going to get you anywhere because unlike khatumo Somaliland exists in reality on the ground, and proof of this is that its flag flies over your villages. The issue here is as i said i unpaid debt in human lives and property damage. If you want peace, peace is yours sincerely, welcome to erigabo and every other city in Somaliland as equal citizens as before: and to the peace terms of 1991 forget all the blood and lost lives and start a fresh. Khatumo on the other hand: is a declaration of an end to the 1991 peace accords. Now i couldn't care less of khatumo do what you like with your village, but pay me the blood money and damage to property in billions of dollars that we cancelled in respect to the Somaliland peace accord of 1991. its ethier you except the peace accords, you pay me, or an eye for an eye until we reach 70,000 of you dead and an equal amount of property destroyed. Khatumo and i want peace saxib ma soconayo runtana wa taa. pay me, except the peace or die. :cool:

New military escalation in Somalia risks harming civilians and undermining efforts to recover from famine, Oxfam said, as the AU military force (AMISOM) and the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) launched a major new offensive in an area where 400,000 people are living in densely populated camps. Oxfam partners report thousands of civilians have already fled the area, known as the Afgooye Corridor, and reported more heavy fighting and displacement throughout Thursday night. Oxfam called on all parties to the conflict in Somalia to avoid use of excessive and indiscriminate force, respect international humanitarian law, and minimise the fallout of any military action on civilians. The Afgooye Corridor was among the regions of Somalia affected by famine and has only recently begun to show signs of recovery. "People in Afgooye have been among the worst affected by the famine and are still extremely vulnerable. The last thing they need now is an increase in fighting that places them in the crossfire, forces them to flee their homes again and cuts them off from aid and livelihoods," said Senait Gebregziabher, the head of Oxfam's Somalia programme. An Oxfam partner said: "We passed thousands of people fleeing the fighting on foot. We have never seen such a massive influx of people on the move at one time. People are reporting deaths and damage to property as a result of the clashes and endless shelling. They are heading now to safer locations in Mogadishu. Another said: "I've seen hundreds of trucks, cars and donkey carts packed with mattresses and other household utensils. Some neighbourhoods are completely empty." With key discussions on the future of AMISOM taking place next week at the UN Security Council and the London Conference on Somalia, Oxfam said the AU force, Somalia National Security Forces, allied groups, and their donors, have an obligation to ensure that every effort is made to minimise harm to civilians. Plans to set up a civilian casualties unit for AMISOM to track, report on, and respond to casualties must be urgently implemented. Donor countries supporting AMISOM should ensure all troops receive sufficient training in International Humanitarian Law (IHL) from qualified civilian staff, and establish an independent mechanism set up to monitor IHL compliance by all parties to the conflict. "Somalia is an incredibly challenging context, but troops must avoid any actions likely to cause civilian casualties or displacement. If the world is serious about keeping Somali civilians safe, then monitoring civilian casualties and ensuring troops and government forces are thoroughly trained in international humanitarian law must be urgently incorporated into the next AMISOM mandate," said Gebregziabher.

A huge international conference is being organised in London on Somalia, but it does not have the support of the citizens. It will fail because what the 'international community' has failed to learn over the years is that Somalis are fiercely independent people. In the first two decades of the 20th century, the Somali warrior-poet Seyyid Mohammed Abdulle Hassan (nicknamed the 'Mad Mullah' by the British) fought against European forces that were trying to assert their influence in Somalia. His attempts were ultimately unsuccessful, but Hassan remains a source of inspiration among Somalis even today. Foreign intervention and occupation have always been violently resisted in Somalia, as demonstrated by the 'Black Hawk Down' incident that led to the evacuation of US forces from Somalia in the early 1990s, to the recent retreat of Ethiopian forces when they tried to assert their authority in Mogadishu after the fall of the Islamic Courts Union. Some argue that the quagmire in Somalia is the result of too much - not too little - foreign interference, be it in the form of military invasions, humanitarian aid and even the extreme form of Islam (Salafism) imported from Saudi Arabia by Al Shabaab. Abubakar Arman, the Somali Special Envoy to the United States, calls these agents of foreign intervention 'Ghost-lords' - 'a loose association of paradoxical powers of the Good, Bad and Ugly' who control every aspect of Somali life, from politics to the economy to religion. Even when the intervention appears to be for the good of Somalia - such as providing aid during a famine - failure by outsiders to understand the fiercely independent character of Somalis contributes to more conflict and misunderstanding, as pointed out by BBC journalist Mary Harper in her new book 'Getting Somalia Wrong?' That is why a conference set to take place in London next week is viewed with suspicion by so many Somalis. Hosted by the British government, the conference aims to 'deliver a new international approach to Somalia' by bringing together over 40 countries and multilateral organisations that will decide how Somalia is to be governed once the term of the Transitional Federal Government expires in August this year. Amongst the proposals for the way forward are the establishment of a supreme authority and a Joint Financial Management Board (comprising mainly donor countries) that will manage and coordinate how donor and domestic funds and resources are to be used (essentially, doing the work of a finance ministry) and increased funding for African Union force, Amisom, and Somali security forces. An even more absurd proposal has been submitted by the Government of Italy, which has suggested the establishment of a joint United Nations/African Union international administration comprising a core group of key 'stakeholders', such as the United States, the European Union and the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development, IGAD. Many Somalis are understandably disgusted by these proposals because they view them as yet another attempt to 'colonise' Somalia. Abdirizak Mohamed, the editor of Hiraan Online, says that he was particularly dumbfounded by the Italian submission at it proposes an international administration to be named as caretaker for Somalia from August 2012 to December 2013. The Italian proposal is equivalent to the Paul Bremen-led authority imposed by the United States in Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Although the Somali Transitional Federal Government has been invited to the conference, it lacks the legitimacy and authority to make decisions on an equal footing with the other so-called 'stakeholders'. While the conference purports to address security concerns, particularly piracy and terrorism, the ultimate intention of the conference, according to many Somali analysts, could be to undermine Somalia's sovereignty and subject the Somali people to new form of colonialism - including by 'proxy states' such as Kenya and Ethiopia, which are sending high-level delegations to the conference. The sense of humiliation that many Somalis feel about the conference is best described by Arman, who in an op-ed article in Eurasia Review writes: 'At this dreadful moment in its history - when the obituary of a nation on life-support is being written - political correctness is a luxury that Somalis cannot afford.' He proposes that Somalia adopt a new paradigm and engage with less intrusive partners (probably a reference to Turkey, which has been active in delivering humanitarian aid and reconstruction in Somalia). Many Somali academics and analysts have also called for home-grown solutions to the Somali crisis. What the British government and its allies must realise is that their top-down, Eurocentric approach in Somalia may look good on paper, but will most likely face fierce resistance on the ground. Rasna Warah is a columnist with the Daily Nation newspaper in Kenya.

Somalia's Islamists to intensify bombing campaign At least one police officer was wounded in the heavy blast Friday Somalia's Al-Qaeda-allied Shebab rebels warned Saturday they were stepping up a bombing campaign in the war-torn capital Mogadishu, a day after a car bomb at a police station wounded two. Shebab spokesman Sheikh Abdulaziz Abu Musab said the extremist Islamist fighters had prepared a string of suicide bombers in their battle to topple the weak Western-backed government and the African Union troops who guard it. "The explosion which hit at the police headquarters on Friday was the beginning of a series of suicide and bombing attacks that mujahedeen fighters plan to carry out in Mogadishu in the coming days," Abu Musab told reporters. Police said Saturday they had found another car laden with explosives close to the same station, near the busy central K4 roundabout. Two people were wounded in the heavy blast on Friday, when explosives packed into a car seized by the police were detonated, destroying part of the police compound's perimeter wall, police said. A man had been arrested in connection with Thursday's blast, information ministry official Abdullahi Bile Noor said, condemning the "godless Al-Qaeda enemy" for the attack. The attack was the latest in a string of blasts including roadside bombs and grenade explosions that have rocked Mogadishu in the past six months since the hardline Shebab left fixed positions and switched to guerrilla attacks. "We will continue bombing... We call on civilians to stay away from those areas where the enemy is based," Abu Musab said, adding that government officials and African Union troops were considered targets. Police official Mohamed Abdi said security had been tightened in the anarchic city. "Police are on high alert to stop any attempt by Al-Qaeda to harm civilians. ... We have intelligence the enemy is planning to carry out desperate attacks in Mogadishu," Abdi told AFP. Last week a suicide bomber killed at least 15 people at a cafe near the presidential palace, the deadliest blast in Mogadishu since October, when a truck packed with explosives killed at least 82 people. Somalia has been without an effective central government since 1991, and the government in Mogadishu is propped up by a 10,000-strong AU force from Uganda, Burundi and Djibouti. Shebab insurgents control large parts of central and southern Somalia, but are facing increasing pressure from regional armies, including Kenyan troops in the south and Ethiopia's army in the south and west. The United Nations says Somalia is suffering one of the world's worst humanitarian crises. Thousands of Somalis are fleeing into Mogadishu after AU-backed government soldiers this week launched renewed attacks against holdout Shehab positions on the outskirts of the capital.

I thought we concluded this fairy tale: lets rewind a little. As i said in 1991 Much of Somaliland was raised to the ground and 70 thousand people were dead all of them from one group within Somaliland and killed because of their lineage. In 1991 Somalilands tribes signed the peace accords of which both Cali Khalif Galayd was present and the saladin of buhoodle and Las canod. The peace accords were adopted and the hostilities were ended. No one took revenge we agreed to let bygones be bygones and move on in peace. now, the people of buhoodle have in their words brought an end to the peace accords. Frankly speaking thats a matter for them. but we still have unfinished business. The end of the Somaliland peace accords means. We return to the status qou of 1991. So this leaves the people of buhoodle 3 options. 1. You pay the blood money for all killed the UN states its around 70,000 and damages to property estimated to be in the billions. 2. You re-join the Somaliland peace accord, and we forget the past and continue. giving proper representation at both the local and national level, access to the stable Somaliland shilling, security and the benefits as stated such as the water projects of las canod, free education for children and full access to all Somaliland cities. 3. We kill 70,000 people and destroy the same amount of property to call it even, in other words an eye for an eye. no more no less. I as a Somalilander would be content with all three. im sure most Somalilanders would be as well.

General Duke;791019 wrote: ^^^I say so adeer, and I am smiling cause the Unionist cause is victorious.. If your unionist ideology is sincere unite Galkacyo a city divided by a green line separated between three authorities and clans, but if i am correct and your claim of unionism is bullsh**t keep preaching but we both know you and your people dont care about unity, you hide behind the claim of unity for two reason one in a hopeless attempt to stop Somaliland from becoming what God intended that it be the superpower of this region. and secondly because your little desert villages are uninhabitable and you dream of Mugdisho. Even Faroole said today. I want to live in Mugdisho hahaah..but the reality is you cant stop Somaliland neither will you be ever allowed back into Mugdisho in peace as a people. Life is sweeeeeeet..:cool:

General Duke;791017 wrote: It seems that you are again fooling yourself. I am not bothered right now. Since the Somalia meeting you are just a mere province.. if you say so little dukey...

General Duke;791015 wrote: You mean and order, that forced you to change your very laws of secession..lol If you say so dukey: we both know Somaliland will never go back on Independence even if we have to wage another war into the very heart of your little village. hahaha so keep dreaming, it seems you and your people have perfected the art of day dreaming.

Hey the British gave us an offer we couldn't refuse. Publicity in front of 40 heads of state, a speech by the president explaining Somaliland's case and aims and a separate status from Somalia to help win the argument towards your soon to be trusteeship status . It would have been ****** not to take it.

General Duke;791010 wrote: Oodweyne if we are going into a trusteeship as you say, you are part of the 18 original regions and your leadership is now part of the process. Thus we are all heading in the same direction. Its just if you read the final communique it would be more clearer for you. The Republic of Somalia is back.. more delusion If it helps you sleep at night then think so but we both know Somaliland aint part of any process other then its own interests. But things are about to get alot more interesting as of 6-7 months. :cool: And its binding on those who sign it. lol..hence why they sign it einstein. haha..pathetic

Oodweyne;791002 wrote: :D Fiction and delusion at it's best. In other words, if someone believe there is some sort of a 18 regions of the then Somali Republic, which ceased to exist back in 1991 , are still in operation in the Somali peninsula, in the present day; then, I fear, no amount of "reality" on the ground could persuade some one of that folly. But, then, again, it's nice to write fiction of one sort or another for one's political agenda; but, to make it work in the ground, is whole different ball game together, indeed.. And they call Somaliland delusional even though it controls from Djibouti to Las canod. While they dream of a non-existent 18 region Somalia. Dukey keep dreaming, lets see you take this so called constitution to the so called 18 regions of Somalia for a vote as is the case with every state. no chance, therefore its more fantasy then reality.

Somalia;790944 wrote: Silly secessionist. You have no idea what's happening do you? The new government will function without Al-Shabaab controlled areas with AMISOM and TFG expanding out slowly. Meaning Hiiraan and upwards to Puntland will be part of the TFG and Mogadishu as well. This will be implemented at the London Conference. Silly secessionist, tricks are for kids. dream on dreamer...:cool: I just listened to the galmudug "president" he said this whole process is bull*tt :cool: hahahah. furthermore the entire conference in london has to do primarily with humanitarian, piracy and terrorism. The entire conference will last for 5 hours. It wont help you ethier. The reality is a long drawn out stalemate period of existence. Amison wont stay there forever, niether will kenya or Ethiopia. Alshabab have the man power, time and can wait it out as you see they still fighting inside mugdisho. But your right Somalia will make history....as the only country in the 21st century to be put back under trusteeship or colonialism. enjoy...

Somalia;790940 wrote: You know full well that this agreement will be used in the London Conference and will be the new constitution after the transition. I'm sorry if your secessionist Somalidiid region didn't participate. so you think a constitution holds any weight without 1/3 of the country not participating it just shows you how deluded these pirates are. This piece of paper you call a constitution was decided in a small pink room the size of a bed room over basto and plastic chairs. Furthermore for any constitution to become law it has to be put to the people. Do you sincerely believe that a referendum can be achieved within Somalia before or even after the August period...Stop chasing pipe dreams. :cool: we both know this is just another road to no where of which Somalia has seen many.

^^^ Che if only your Ethiopian Brethren can do that to xabashi soldiers ha .. dont have the ba**s to do it im assuming. :cool:

I found it funny, the shooter has obviously excelled in single shots, aiming but still lacks in re-loading and taking out multiple targets one after the other. but all in all...I enjoyed it.

Mario B;790743 wrote: I'm glad you've agree with me. :cool: If you say so

kingofkings;790737 wrote: buhoodle does not need anyone assistance to deal with your enclave, on more serious note, lie does not equal to mastery of the art of politic. But, if your proud of lies, okay. Look at it this way, if it any broke don't fix it. Im sorry let me take out my Stu**d dictionary to attempt to understand what you wrote.

kingofkings;790738 wrote: i was about to same the same thing about you. oh well, you beat me to it. enjoy until August. if you say so

Mario B;790740 wrote: Well, those were mafrish talks:cool: and there was no KS.... this time around we are changing the reality on the ground, starting from Buuhoodle, the healthier the South gets, your propaganda to the international communities will be replied with dismissive smirk, you will be told where to go [Mogadishu]. Talking about putting the Cart before the donkey.:rolleyes: if you say so..

Mario B;790735 wrote: Are you still dissing the Quran Teacher? Somaliland....is just an enclave in Somalia. And talking about Flags, every village in Somalia has one. :rolleyes: but guess which is flying in the building that matters.? Correct.:cool: enjoy your last 6-7 months of existence.

Mario B;790726 wrote: ^^ I say dream on, Somaliland is Somalialand. The land belong to us and you're not going decide our fate. I also couldn't give funk what status your enclave towns ended up being....your lil project has hit the buffer that is KS. and this is the beginning of the END.:cool: i been hearing the same thing for the past 20 years my friend and still my flag flys high..it aint coming down anytime soon. Somaliland only gets more powerful year after year. enjoy your Saado Cali concerts and life in exile :cool: