Cirro should be careful with his words. Trump might just say he will own Somaliland.

You should know by now he never criticizes Lafta Gareen, anyone else is a game. For him he is infallible, cajiib.

Well I have never liked the idea of giving territory to Ethiopians they have a track record of claiming things that aren’t theirs . The other issue I have with the deal is with the galla becoming more fierce and more belligerents even their beggars in hargeisa are talking with so much kibir I never really endorsed the idea just entertained the benefit of the doubt since I trust bixii to the nation right but I don’t trust abiye and the gallas one bit the fact and the disrespect is that they even go to Ankara and talk about it with Somalia is a disrespectful to Somaliland . All in all somaliland should just help Somalia with this issue and stop the whole thing . And negotiations with Somalia and somaliland should begin imediatly I think we have shown good will with this but they should then stop stalling and. Agree with a 5 year plan to come with a solution for our conflict . Now they don’t have to sell any more of their resources with military treaties with foreign countries it’s a win win

Hawd is usually included in the Waqooyi political sphere even though it is geographically situated in the West, but then again, you would have known that had you been a bona fide native. By the way, it is "Waqooyi => origin 'Waaq hooy [Waaq's lair], pre-Islam idol' ", and not "Woqooyi". It follows the same naming convention as the days of the week, and months of the Gregorian calendar. Again, aan kuu ducaynee maandhow, afka & dhulka noo daa!

Early results for the 3 remaining districts in Nugaal. Garowe: 33 Kaah 12 SinCad 5 Horseed 6 Mideeye 2 RunCad 2 Shaqaale 2 Ifiye 2 Mustaqbal 2 Dangorayo: 27 Kaah 9 SinCad 6 Horseed 5 Mideeye 3 RunCad 2 Shaqaale 1 Ifiye 1 Godobjiiraan: 21 Kaah 7 SinCad 2 Horseed 6 Mideeye 5 RunCad 0 Shaqaale 0 Ifiye 1

Hassan ma xishoodo maantana sheekada ina geeele ayuu la yimid. Allow na astur yesterday he was bending for the Kenyans today for the Djiboutians

Kooxda 'Anaa Carab' Soomaali maryooleey will not like sawirkaan dadka wada diir madoow soo saaraayo.

Aan ooyee irida ii xira waaye sheekada. Wax kale aan sheegno ma leh. It seems since Abiy Axmed landed Xamar, Lafta seems to be emboldened - in the last three days: On Sunday, he met the Xabashi embassy caretaker in Baydhabo; yesterday it was this dabaaldega that is insult to all of us and today he met ciidamada Xabashada tababaraaye ciidamo KG. Last week baarlamaanka KG suddenly selected xildhibaan Fiqi as a speaker, while not resigning his dowladda dhexe xildhibaan seat. Fiqi was and is very close to Lafta. Lafta is planning to hold a selection sometime between after Ciidda and before Kowda Luulyo.

Xaaji, Don't confuse HSM and his minions for Southerners. HSM is no better than Biixi, in fact, he's worse!

Waa dad gardarro qaawan wada. If they chose conflict over peace, so be it.

Hong Kong was a nation state with complete laws before China acquired it and promising it will respect its local laws, including currency. Just tell us what country's region prints its own local currency? Name a single country.

It's the same currency. I don't think there's devolution in central banking and money matters in the UK. Politics, a bit, yes, but economically it's all one. Example comes to mind is the euro, all the same but different pictures and look for each country.

Weird how no one focuses cooperation and development. Building the peace in your immediate vicinity should be a priority. Facilitating business between regions for shared prosperity. Southern Somalia is highly unlikely to know the idea of peace, let alone prosperity anytime soon. Focus on peace and development. These politicians are dimwits who have no ability to lead, so they go to distraction technique which works without a fail is inter tribal hatred. Time for peaceful regions to move on..... South Central Somalia can dig its grave deeper with HSM in charge.

Clan federalism was always going to an unworkable arrangement for a Somali state. If the state is to survive, there needs to be a new constitution and new federal states which crisscross and divide clan territories, where everyone regardless of clan affliarion has the right to vote or run for political office.

As long as there is a lack of accountability, no system of government will ever be followed.

I don't expect anything good from Cirro. The guy has been leader of the parliament for 20 years and he has done nothing significant other than punch Baashe Farah the deputy chair. He is surrounded by all the thieves and corrupt wanna be politicians created by the project since 2000. Forget about auditing anything, he is hungry and is surrounded by hungry group. He might negotiate with HSM to gain some financial aid by pretending to be for unity. We all know Biixi was his own man. For bad or worse he made the decisions by himself. You might not believe it, but Biixi stopped the cash bribes to the elders and other hangers on. Somaliland was looted during the 7 years of the Siilaany ALah Ha u Naxariiste. Both Xirsi and Mohamuud Hashi got rich during these years.Now one financed Cirro and the other bought his own party. This going to be the most corrupt we even seen second only to Siilaanyo era. In these parts of the world the later is always worse than the former.

Madobe Vs Madoobe

You have to wait until he makes his first pilgrimage to Adisababa and Abiy soo canaanto.

Sounds good, this one.

1 - Hirshabeelle ayaa ku qoran Hiiraan iyo Shabeellaha Dhexe kala baxsan. Waagaas Hirshabeelle ma jirin. (This is the sole reason, many suspect, the minister of petroleum who published this map. He hails from Hiiraan and supports so-called Hiiraan State.) 2 - Sool iyo Sanaag 'disputed' gobolloka dhaxeeyo Waqooyi Bari iyo Waqooyi Galbeed ku qoran. 3 - Mudug deegaano ka mid ah in muran heysasho ah ka jiro ku qoran 4 - Waqooyi Galbeed ka dhigay deegaan ka madaxbanaan Soomaaliya. Aqri meesha midig hoose.

Axmed Madoobe ilma adeerkiisa ku bahdil isleeyahay Xasan Socdaal. I never give any benefit of doubt to Xasan when many were lenient when he was (s)elected again. He is even worse than my worst version of him I was expecting. He utterly failed, what a glorious missed fursad he wasted from mid 2022, when many were praising him dagaalada loogu adkaaday kuwa afka duuban, though it wasn't his initiative nor his commanding. The generals (Odawaa and Biixi) leading these victorious were from previous administration. After he removed them for no reason other than being from serving previous administration, the failure started immediately.

I am with Xaaji here, they produce very rare smart genius people but majority are xuunsho, very low quality, rats, I believe majority of freedom fighters, good genes, brave, leaders have died out, where more of dumb, subservient are majority now. Massive problem .they will never lift a finger against Ethiopia Look at Hamza, Abdi Ilay, Ahmed Madoobe, Cagjar

I met Che in 2011, 13 years ago in Nayroobi. Very quiet spoken and rational, something not for qabyaaladiste politics.

Iliria, even Trump said he want to be a dictator for one day. Aren't we all tired of the shenanigans of Mogadishu and everywhere else. The Great Darwiish came to Berbera at the end of 19th century " Isagoo baakoorad laad laadinaya" and within few years created the movement that fought the British, we had the first president rule with grace and left with honor, we had Sharmaarke say " We will vote with one hand and fight with other" rather than postpone the election during the war of 1964. Cabirasaaq was the most competent premier, the Kacaan lifted the nation, wrote the Somali language, expanded education by reaching 75% literacy and earning UNESCO award. Despite the evil rebels of Mengistu, " Dawladii Soomaaliyeed waxa ay ahayd Geed weyn oo lawada Hadhsanayey". Even C/laahi Yusuf slept in makeshift house , brought his own guard and managed with less than $ 30 million dollars. Now we get these corrupt and weak men who fly around the world and couldn't achieve anything tangible for their term. They got 40,000 soldiers and 1 billion dollar budget , yet could,'t reach Afgooye. Do you think we will debate with C/laahi Dani and Ina Cabidishakur, and entertain the weak secessionists? No , will will march when we get the gavel in our hand. Any decent Somali could do better and manage these few towns despite Al-shbaab.

Reer Galmudug are not reliable partners. Reer Unuku Leh are.

Dhibka jiro waxee tahay Xasan daacad kama aha la dagaalanka Xabashida iyo qaranimo difaaca. He just want wax Laftagareen iyo maamulkiisa awooda yeeshay burburiyo. He wants degmooyinka Koonfur Galbeed ciidamo Masar geeyo, sida Xuddur, Marka, Baraawe iyo Belidoogle. Reer KG doqomo macnaha wey arkaan waxa socdo. Shaqsi ahaantey waaka soo horjeedaa Xabashi jecleysigaan laakiin Xasan waa munaafaq weynaaday qabiiliste ah and can't stand KG awood leh. Dagaal qaboob kula jiraa, maalin walbana qabiilo kiciyaa. Dagaalo beeleed dhici jirin ayaa ka dhacooyo, ku soo noqboqonaayo labadii sano u dambeysay deegaanada Berdaale, Qoryooleey, Diinsoor iyo Daafeed (Wanlaweyn) suu maamulka iyo dadka iskaga horkeeno.

Cakuye dhallaan! You do not even know how to say the names, eh? It is yours if you could tell me what Jiidali means?

now we have jabuuti offering a free port to Ethiopia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CopBAUUMHlg

They don't want to be distracted while celebrating victory day.

Xaaji, De jure power is a potent tool, one not exercised by the Somali Government against secessionist entities. No persons or organizations can oppose it on flimsy personal relationships.

Reer SSC are concerned Ethiopia would arm and train Sland. They want to permanently remove themselves from Hargeisa influence. They would agree to the deal if that will help their cause. As Garaad Jaamac said, never again. In any case, it's Somalis that will play the price as it's unlikely Ethiopians and Egyptians will confront each directly.

Approach, if wise diplomats and sharp political leaders were in charge of our affairs: a) Lead with the SL deal with FGS acting as the guarantor, and final authority, i) Bring SL into the fold, as the State (FMS), ii) Bring reer Awdal into the negotiations, as stakeholders. b) Tie the case of S Galbeed to the "access to sea" deal, and into the conversation, where Ethiopia shall legally agree S Galbeed being Somali territory. i) You want sea? Give up our occupied land! Check mate. Let Abiy chew on that. Unfortunately, we neither have wise nor intelligent political leaders managing our affairs.

Laascaanood

It's a balancing act where you have to take many things into consideration.

I actually no longer feel anything when it comes to the plight of our people, just numb. Since I was born; it has been nothing but destruction and chaos, all day everyday. I just hope my kids live to see a semblance of normalcy in this cursed maryooley zeitgeist. Allah ha u naxariisto inta socotay, inta dhibaataysanna ha u booga dhayo.

Hassan sheikh is actually the biggest failure at least he should fire his security chief . How could this happen aun to all the civilians masakinta la dilay inti bugtana ilaahay ha caafiyo . Intu qabuuraha ku mashquulsanyahay this happend

interesting though this is not good for the national cohesion of what every Somali state that is being reconstructed how ever out of protocol if she doesn’t favour one president at least she should have kept her opinion to her self I mean that would have been more promising. . Though I would say if she leaves out general afweyne.That would have been not a problem since he was the only dictator compared to all the the other previous presidents . But she also left out the cheese fellow and cabdilahi yusuf who were also interim presidents and were not dictators so singling out them would be viewed as bit of Qabiliste. Hadi qaran la dhisayo there is no room for this behaviour.

Down Muuse shaani

Every Soomaali xaq u leeyahay kursiguu doono u tartamo. Late marxuum Galeyr tried and almost pulled it as a candidate for the speakership in 2012. Most of his voters were Reer Koonfur Galbeed, who wanted isku sharaxaan jagada kale. However waa lagu goobtay by the collusion of xildhibaannada Reer Waqooyiga ka soo hotjeeday Galeyr; Reer Unuga oo iyaga kursiga leeyihiin ismoodo iyo Reer Waqooyi Bari oo Reer Sool u diidanaa kursigaan maadaama jagadee rabeen wiiqeyso.

Your candor here is appreciated.

Secessionist cuqdadooda heerka ee mareyso: Ironically marqaan miiran that they are 'celebrating' maalinta 26ka Juun oo Soomaali u dabaaldageyso.

This is a historic thread, perhaps by far the longest thread here. Where is the legend Alpha Blondy nowadays?

The reasons for unity or separation shouldn't be based on the behaviour of individual politicians. Politicians whether they are good or bad will always come and go, but our society will remain. Today the our people may have precious few capable leaders or honourable politicians, but in the future our situation might be radically different. God is the one who is in control of events, and He can change our situation for the better.

Trump will be the next president of America. Just after the verdict, in just few hours he raised $6 million dollars. This overzealous presecuter had guaranteed his re-election. Besides, unless you had criminal record, no one goes to jail for this kind of victimless crime. It will be either probation or community service. Other crimes like the Georgia recount won't be even litigated until after the election, furthermore, there is a case before the supreme court which is arguing that the president had immunity while in office, and when he called the top election officer in Georgia, he was protecting his interest. Folks, the major issue here is that two 80 years old men are the only people left standing in America and that shows the decline of the country. When the Soviet Union was declining in the eighties, it was ruled by old men who were tired. Brezhnev was old and passed away in 1982 and was replaced by another old man Yuri Andropov, who died 14 months later, and was replaced by another old one who served only one year, until Gorbachev took over and we know the rest of the story. Two years ago, you had these two and another two 80 years olds running the senate and the house, Mitch McConnel and Nancy Pelosi. Go figure. Thre Democrats are corrupt to core and the Republicans are know nothing puppets. The Irishman Mr. Joe Kennedy is going nowhere with Rabbi Smuthley Boteach as his adviser. The last statesman of America was George Bush senior the rest were created by media sound bites. We need Trump. Guys, real change could only come from the right.