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Rahima the worst of the warlords are well know, it is those that prevented the capital of pacifying itself, it is those that prevented for 16 years a affective central government emerging all have been eaten up by Mogadishu, where's Cali Mahdi, Aydid and Abdiqassim's?

 

It is the only place where daily killngs in their tens and hundreds were a regular occurance.

 

It is the only place that did not have a functioning local administration.

 

It is the only place that did have multiple illegal roadblocks set up by thugs.

 

It was the only place, that have 14 different rulers i.e warlords that government different districts.

 

It was the only place where people were offered if they booked a hotel room a private militia that is going to escort them from the airport.

 

Simply Mogadishu was a jungle where the gun ruled and and different thugs were reporting to different warlords.

 

No order, No administration, No single ruler, No regulations.

 

Compare that and the warlords that represented the south and Mogadishu to Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmad.

 

1. He was released from an ethiopian prison by the Tigreys in 91.

 

2. He came to Puntland and was made the head of the SSDF's emergency wing.

 

3. In 92, when Somalia erupted into civil war, the Itihad group was entrusted with taking care of Bosaso port.

 

4. Hassan Dahir Aweys as a refugee started a revolutions and arrested Abdullahi Yusuf and other elders with no apprent warning.

 

5. The army that was send to fight in the civil war had to be re-called and Abdullahi Yusuf was saved by Sheikh Abdulqadir Gacmey from the murderous hand of Aweys, who wanted to kill Abdullahi Yusuf for no apprent reason.

 

6. Itihad have been defeated and they fled to the mountains.

 

7. In 93 Abdullahi Yusuf made peace with Aydid brining the onslaught of the North-East by the violent and unpricinpled thugs to an end.

 

8. 93-98 The North-East was the most peaceful region in Somalia, dozens of people from Mogadishu and the south settled for a peaceful live, whilst they were fleeing Mogadishu.

 

9. In fact the majority of the North-East has not seen any war except for Galkacyo being captured by the morons of Aydid and the subsequent killing and 'genocide' of the people over 400 people have been killed indiscrimantely majority of them were innocent elders.

 

USC waged a war on the North-East for no apparent reason.

 

10. The fight mostly ocncentrated in Mudug and Galkacyo area and in 93 USC gave up on their ambition of brining the North-East under their rule of the gun and mooriyanissm.

 

11. There was a small war in 92 when the Itihad has unlawfully captured the regions leaders whilst the Army was fighting the enemy read USC.

 

12. The majority of the towns in the North-East were the most peaceful exception being North-Galkacyo, which was attacked by USC but since 93 a shaky Peace-treaty hold on (it was maintained by the people of the North-East because they hate wars and they were focusing in establishin a new life in the North-East as they have been kicked out by the USC from their homes and livelihoods).

 

13. In 98 Abdullahi Yusuf was made President of Puntland on a consensus bases and the people of North-East were living and leading prosporous lives.

 

14. In 2001 Abdullahi Yusuf insisted of extending his mandate and rule as Arta was threating the autonomous region of Puntland that was advocating for a federal system, thus their refusion to except Arta government which was a civil society based government under a central system. Puntland was striving for autonomity and self-rule.

 

15. A war erupted shortly but not in the towns and cities. There was no war in Gaalkacyo, there was no war in Laascaanood, there was no war in Bosaso and there was a small confrontation in Garoowe capital of Puntland in which a minium of people died. We got enthustically women and elders that would not allow a fight inside a city unlike Mogadishu folks that like to fight in cities and on top of innocent women and children.

 

I can provide you with a tape from Abdullahi Yusuf saying and bragging to Gheedi 'That Puntlanders or the people of the North-East do not fight inside towns and that Gheedi has to change the 'culture' in Mogadishu' and he was right we do not fight inside towns and cities.

 

16. Two armies collied at Dhuudo and subsequently the oppostion retreated from Puntland into neighbouring Hargeisa regime controlled region of Ceel-Afweyn.

 

 

17. They vacated Bosaso and were welcomed enthusiastically to the town with green leafs and Abdullahi Yusuf took his rightful place in the Precidency and Bosaso was spared and no shot was fird I only wished the same fait could be extented to Mogadishu and its people.

 

18. Soon he opened discussion with the people that were opposed to them and they came back with their armour and guerilla army and a inclusinve peace treaty was signed. The people of Puntland during the dispute and power struggle did not suffer and life was going on as normal and ussual.

 

19. Now the same leader of the group that was challenging and opposing Abdullahi Yusuf called Gen. Cadde is the President of Puntland, that shows you how intelligent the people of the North-East are.

 

20. In 2004 Abdullahi Yusuf was made the President of Somalia until now.

 

21. In his earlier life he was a officer in the Somali National Army and in 1978 he took part in a failed coup against Siad Barre's regime.

 

22. 1978-85 he was founder of the first Somali rebel group against the Somali regime of Maxemd Siyaad Barre.

 

23. In 1985 He was imprisoned by Ethiopias Derg regime and stayed in prison for six years until 91, when he was realised by the tigrey lead rebel group that oused Haile Miriam Mengistu.

 

So tell me where in that sequence from 91-2004 did you see him committing atrocities or killing people.

 

Abdullahi Yusuf is a man of order and descipline, he hates chaos and anarchy and chaos and anarchy is what Mogadishu has been thriving on from 1991-2006 July when the ICU came to power.

 

So tell me where the extortions, killings and illegal roadblocks and countless patty and trivial fightings Abdullahi Yusuf take part in, in the former North-East and Puntland?

 

The people were fleeing from the monsters of Mogadishu and they were coming to Abdullahi Yusuf and the North-East and Puntland for safety, security and employment, so who is the warlord you talking about?

 

Tell me wasn't the former North-East and Puntland stable and secure? Wasn't Mogadishu in Chaos for sixteen years?

 

Were the people fleeing from Abdullahi Yusuf when they were fleeing in their masses from their homes in Mogadishu? Or were they fleeing teh Yalahows, Aydids, Caato's, Cal Mahdi's, Qanyare's and many more countless warlords of Mogadishu?

 

They were fleeing to a place were they could find peace, security, employment and prosperity and that place was the former North-East and Puntland State of Somalia.

 

And they were fleeing chaos, killings, mooriyaanis, anarchy, hunger and lawlessness which was Mogadishu.

 

Don't deny those facts Rahima, you've to be just and I tell you as I've told you before, you have the worst 'leaders' (note there's no leader but leaders as Mogadishu has over 100 warlords who act like they were leaders}!

 

So in short Abdullahi Yusuf stands for order, law, governance, peace and security which he will all to Mogadishu soon as well inshallah.

 

And he hates anarchy, disorder, chaos, civil strife, and unruly folks.

 

Afterall he's a military men and not the ignorant fools that were your 'leaders' the mooriyaanis a.k.a. warlords that were ruing the capital city of Somalia.

 

Give respect where it is due inshallah and refrain from depicting a man of what he isn't and wasn't.

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Taliban   
The clan president is the worst warlord. Why? Because thanks to his executive order authorizing invasion and occupation, thousands of innocent Somalis have been massacred by Ethiopian occupiers, US gunships and warplanes. And certainly, he's the top war criminal.

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bilan   

MKA Abdulahu yusuf did kill people, a lot of people, so i don't think even the best criminal defense attorney can save him from the execution chamber. fartaada xun filiq filiq kaagama harto horaa loo yiri.

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Rahima   

MKA,

 

I don't know why you waste your time it's not like im going to read all of that, for like i wrote a blind man cannot see me wave at him so i won't bother waving.

 

Make use of your time i say, i suggest that you read any books on Al-walaa'-wal-baraa'- topic you clearly know nutta about.

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Taliban   

Originally posted by Captain Xalane:

Asking whether a commander is a killer or not is absurd.On ther other hand,wrong killings are questionable and the colonel sure made no wrong killing.

Asking whether the clan president is a killer isn't absurd. The clan president might not have personally killed, but he sure issued executive orders to kill many innocent people. Whether you like it or not, the clan president is a war criminal.

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Originally posted by Captain Xalane:

quote:Originally posted by Taliban:

Whether you like it or not, the clan president is a war criminal.

Yeah right!As if u had the what it takes to label him asuch.
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Then, tell us what it takes to label him a war criminal, if you don't mind. Do I have to be another infidel from the International Criminal Court of Hague in the Netherlands?

 

Your demise lies in the batreyal of your dear Gaalo, and one day, it will happen for your misery!

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Somalina   

Originally posted by Taliban:

The clan president is the worst warlord. Why? Because thanks to his executive order authorizing invasion and occupation, thousands of innocent Somalis have been massacred by Ethiopian occupiers, US gunships and warplanes. And certainly, he's the top war criminal.

Finally, a voice for the SOMALI people.

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Is it that time of year when we had to debate and dedicate dozens of threads to the old warrior.

 

This thread and Alshabaab's slaughter house and graveyard that Mogadishu is today, is testimony to the old man's legendary visionary.

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