Where are the educated and professional men?

[Buubto]

Our men or women aren't in the top 50 list of well educated nation & handworkers. Before the civil war our men were the only heros & light for our nation. The majority of the men were educated in higher fields, graduated in overseas. Everything Somalia achieved, they made it happen with the help of Allah ofcourse. Back then our women were nothing small number of them were educated & working most of them couldn't read forget about everything else. When the civil war occurred a lot of things have changed the men become the loosers, due to many problems such as starting everything from square one & at the same time they had to support their families. They don't have time to waste at collage, when their loved one's r dying for hunger. Where our ladies had easy & that is why there is a lot of educated women then men. Not to forget our men r going through depression that is why I think they turned to chewing qaat & hanging around the cafe's.

 

Yeah our brothers got a very long road a head of them to achieve success, so us our sisters. Our people say "far kaliya fool ma dhaqdo" Is time we stop pointing fingers & start thinking how we could over come this problem in order to achieve our goal. Gacmo wada jir ayee wax ku qabtaan

 

Let's not judge them with their current satiation, let's examine the satiation closely & discover the cause of this problem. I think our females are being harsh on them which makes really difficult for them to start picking up the pieces where they left.

[Samafal]

hi all,

 

I dont know where u all are but where i am here in london there are more educated somali guys than girls and there are so many more who are in the process of educating themselves may be u are all in america where the guys work hard to feed people back home. There are also loosers as well as any other communities in britain who choose the bad corner of the life. so everything is happening and we shouldnt be pointing any fingers to any one for failure over all we are failed society after we failed to have state of our own.

 

Peace

[Ms DD]

I wonder if anything has changed

[Baluug]

Well, when this topic was started, I was working in a beef factory, and now I've upgraded to a potato chips factory, so I guess something has changed

 

But seriously, education isn't everything, a guy could be a doctor and still be an a$$hole.

[underdog]

Originally posted by Ms DD:

I wonder if anything has changed

Nope, over 6 yrs later and the Somali women are still ungrateful, shallow, narrow minded and still think the grass is greener on the other side.

[Ms DD]

lol underdog

You mean whilst men are still no-hopers jaadwallayaal.

 

But seriously though..lets love each other. We only have each other..dont we? Calaacalka maa la joojiyo! It is mainly men who scream the loudest

 

er I mean..somali men for somali women..with the odd adopted ajnabi like cadaan here

[underdog]

Hey,

I love my Somali women as is. I'm just smart enough to recognize how they calaacal and find ways to live with it.

 

Us men have the odd question here or there. Laakin the women.... just go to the Women's section, and browse the topics, page after page of suaal qaab daran iyo calaacal hore oo presentation cusub lagu sameeyey.

 

So lets just say Somali men aren't smart enough to change, but its all balanced out by Somali women who aren't smart enough to find alternatives.

[RedSea]

bal usheeg dadkan 'somali men iyo women this and that laga racay. Iimaansada dadyahow.

[Jacaylbaro]

loooooooooooooool@surxun ,,, i wonder if she is still alive or what she is doing right now ,,

 

 

tolow surkii xumaa ma u hagaagay ,,,

[MZanzi]

In this case, I'm suspecting a kind of jealousy

[ElPunto]

And the beat goes on...........

[Queen Arawello]

I think a lot has changed in 6 yrs. Somalis are more integrated, there are more Somali graduates and more professionals! Despite this a lot of people have fallen by the wayside.

 

I think there has been more progress from women in particular. More have been emancipated and liberated from the shackles of nomadism and ignorance. Men have generally not fared so well, the number of Khat houses has increased dramatically and so have the number of people induced and profits obtained.

[Gheelle.T]

Generalization at its best eh...

 

Afro what's up with the new Avatar? You shoo she aint underage?

[underdog]

Generalization and short-sightedness.

 

Its a shame you only see the bums in the Qaad houses and the labourers in the factories.

 

The men are out doing a lot more than you can possibly comprehend.

 

 

Telecommunication: Access to telecommunication before the civil strife was very expensive and not accessible to most Somalis. Telephone lines were limited to cities and to those lucky ones who could offer it. For example, in 1990 there were about 2 fixed telephone mainlines per 1,000 people. However, thanks to the entrepreneurial spirit of Somalis and to new technologies today there are about 9 private operators that provide competitive telecommunication services to almost every province and to even towns and village, which did not have access to telephone prior the war. Today, there are around 25 mainlines per 1,000 persons, and availability of telephone lines (tele-density) in Somalia is higher than in neighbouring countries, three time higher than in Ethiopia. Access to international telephone calls is probably the most affordable and cheapest in whole of Africa. For example, in 2005 one minute phone-call from Mogadishu or Hargeysa cost $0.50-0.80, as the rate of one minute international phone call from a small town or a village in Somalia was cheaper than of that in Addis Ababa! In 2003, there were 63 mobile phones per 1,000 people and there are internet facilities.

 

Although in need of regulatory and structural framework, the sector provides much needed services, which improve the lives of thousands in terms of, among other things, job creation and income generation etc.

 

Small scale industries: Just few years before the civil war, the 53 or so state-owned large-medium and small manufacturing enterprises, like many public institutions, were breaking down and bankrupt. Then the civil war destroyed the rest, almost all infrastructure were looted. However thanks to investment by the Diaspora, the remittance sector, and some intervention by the international community Somalis have managed to re-start some old small scale plants, as they have created new ones. These include fish canning and meat processing plants in the north, some 25 factories in Mogadishu, which produce pasta, mineral water, sweets, plastic bags and sheets, hides and skins, detergent and soap, aluminium, foam mattresses and pillows, fishing boats, packaging, and stone processing etc.

 

The airline industry: Again thanks to their entrepreneurial spirit and lack of strict regulatory frameworks, there are about 14 private companies (e.g. Daallo) which run commercial flights from Somalia to abroad. These companies offer competitive flight tickets, for instance – Daallo air ticket from Djibouti to France costs 40% less than of what the Air France ticket costs. These carriers have been a life-line to Somalis’ booming trade, as they have been a helping hand in the delivery of crucial humanitarian assistance by the international community. So if yesterday Somalis were proud of the now bankrupt and defunct Somali Airline – the only national carrier that dominated the sky – today Somalis have successfully created 14 private companies that connect Somalis to the outside world. A big step towards a better future.

 

Road Infrastructure: in late 1970s there were 19,380 kilometres of road infrastructure which include all categories from paved, gravel, to tarmac. Despite the fact that these roads have been badly deteriorating in some parts of the country and in need of maintenance, the percentage of roads that have been paved and maintained by Somalis during the civil war period is the same as of that of Kenya and Ethiopia, and much higher than in Tanzania.

[Queen Arawello]

Originally posted by underdog:

[qb]in late 1970s.... the percentage of roads that have been paved and maintained by Somalis during the civil war period is the same as of that of Kenya and Ethiopia, and much higher than in Tanzania.[qb]

You be seem to be living in nostalgia!

 

These crude yet practical generalisations have more substances than your nostalgia!