some European governments have begun to fight back—not against the Islamification of Europe but against inhumane, even barbaric political practices in the name of religion which violate western standards of universal human rights. Clearly here, the Burqa is not the point of contention. Italy’s Northern League proposal “aims at amending a 1975 law, introduced amid concern over domestic terrorism, which bans anyone wearing anything which makes their identification impossible Mohammed Atta and his friends must have been wearing Burqas when they had hijacked those planes. the human rights/woman’s rights argument as grounds to ban the burqa. Are they worried human or Islamification of Europe Follow the burqa. Where she goes, you will probably find normalized wife-battering, serious child abuse, including honor killings too—as well as polygamy, and a pathological hatred of Jews, Israelis, Hindus, Americans, and all other infidels. There you may also find terrorist cells or supporters of terrorism. From this point of view—ban the burqa, and it may lead to an exodus of terrorists back to their fundamentalist-friendly home countries. Whipping emotions and tying the Burqa to Islam and implying terrorism, polygamy (which is Islamically suctioned) and hatred of Jews and Americans ( as if Muslims don't have real cause to be angry with Americans and Israelis)is something inherently Islamic. You can't have both ways duqa. You can't say Burqa is traditional clothing and not Islamic one and turn around and say Burqas are Islamic and represent terrorism, polygamy, and wife-beating. Anyhow, this was beside the point, but my contention was having governments passing LAWS banning a piece of clothing is dictating what women can and can not do-Bikinis are welcomed and Burqas are not just cuz man said so! Lazy-what's there to answer?

Originally posted by Johnny B: Che', Now that was kind of a bit too stretching , yeah . Not really-as long as you want to dictate ( and I use the word dictate cuz that would be the implication of any legislation banning burqa)what woman should do with her body. And the funny thing here is Mecca comment, using the same religion that you so despise to support your argument.

I have never seen a man so obsessed with woman wears-after centuries of struggle, you still push back woman's progress and dictate what they want to wear.

Stoic..A few glasses of sherry will induce sleep but alcohol taken within hour of bedtime will actually disrupt the second half of your sleep. Anyway, the only medication I tried Tylenol PM. Naden....LoooL@Ike n Tina, that's option. I can't get to the library but perhaps I could just run into wall at amazing speed.

^That's the part that bothered you?...LooooL

^I'm not going through a face or having moment-it is just, well I think we can agree that we are the intelligent form of life on this planet and we can also agree whether you believe in evolution or religion, this form of life will come to an end one day. It's what comes after that intrigues me? Do we just turn into cosmic dust, molecules bouncing of each other which to me seems like such ignoble end to such "civilized" life form or does the after life seems more appropriate destiny-acknowledgment of our superior but fragile beings? P.S. The particularities of the after life matters little to me.It is bigger question of should such destiny be fitting end to my life that matters.

Originally posted by Gheelle.T: Che, it indeed means something in Urdu and it's not far from the name in question here... I was used to feel bad for Luul-I think you know who I'm talking about.

i went to school with an indian (sikh) guy named Sukhdeep Hardik Singh....no kidding! Poor kid Waraa Gheele.T Didn't Luul mean something in Urdu street lingo?

I don't understand why something you don't believe would irk you Johny B? Castro-My intrigue is with the concept of after life? Do we truly die?

Waryaa Stoic Volunteer couple of months at Amoud University while you are still broke. I know you are not going back once big dope comes rolling in. We will sign petition asking Mrs. Stoic to ok it Good luck Aaliyah-you seem to have good head on your shoulders.Insha,Allah it will work out for you.

Originally posted by General Duke: Cuba has a great school. Yup!! I would imagine that are Spanish medium schools though.

Oh good-we were gonna send a search party-not Aaliyah...loool Just South Asia-Pakistan and India that's. Pakistan is not safe now but it has good schools like Aga Khan Medical collage. India has several good schools and they are all English medium schools. Even South East Asia, Malaysia and Indonesia will be worthy a look. I guess Carib is good as long as you know what you are doing!

Ok-who's this Carib brother stealing you from us? Don't know about Carib schools but South Asia has good and relative cheap med school. Americans also head to central America but I'm not sure how good those schools are.

The sista is happy..Wish her the best.

Good!

Well this takes the fun out of everything.

^Maxaas kuhaaya igaaryahow Abyan-I was thinking of some annoying Sijiu person.

Originally posted by Raamsade: ^Are you agreeing with Piouyt that as their countries become economically developed, Muslims will reject Sharia for secular democracy? That's the gist of what Piouyt is saying. I'm not sure if that's what he's saying. My view of it is that there's natural progression of things in given society and within contours of each society, needless to say systems are borne out of experience-secularism is purely European experience.Expecting Muslims or in this case Somali Muslims to embrace it even in the context of economic and cultural prosperity is simply flawed.If anything, secularism in Somalia would be anomaly rather than it being the next evolutionary step in our capacity to govern ourselves. Makes wonder though what was state of the Somali tribes in the horn when the Treaty of Westphalia which ended religious wars in Europe and essentially established sovereign states or nation states was signed?

^Better yet, how about we invite aghori-help him attain that divinely enlightenment but that would be somewhat of ironic end for you though.

Looking from the perspective of the living, it does matter insofar your remains don't pose any health risk-I'm too practical and far less philosiphical. As for me, I would have preferred cataclysmic end that obliterates everything and no, I'm not volunteering for suicide mission.

Xumad

^Feybaro. *Giving Aaliyah the thermometer checking ayeeyo's temp the old fashion way*

Ibti-Good questions. So, how do you cure chronic insomnia?

^What's your field?