Che -Guevara

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  1. ^How could invoking the Great Sayid (not our Sayid on SOL) be Somalidiid....It's Taleex man:-)
  2. Get some reliable family contacts-the key word being reliable.
  3. ^Look at this way, think of the consequences of narrowing the political space for any given group. You could cast them away and it will come back to bite you or make them part of the process.
  4. I gotchu Abtigiis. I highly doubt Woyanes would agree to secession unless they want to break Ethiopia for good which was their stated goal to begin with when they were rebel movement. Ethiopia is cash cow for them and they will rule as long as possible.
  5. ^Not only NFD seceding but having another Somali country in the Horn that could shift trade and influence, looooool@Zack n Kenya....Kenya is the good enemy dee.
  6. ^They became pirates miyaa..............? Good at bargaining Jacpher....The whole thing doesn't make sense. How does Kenya benefit from this?
  7. Somalia;768478 wrote: Che, I am sorry if I hurt you, but I am just telling you what everyone else is thinking. Nothing I told you guys was a lie. LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
  8. Somalia....OK-and you stop spending too much with Tol telling Puntland is IT.
  9. ^He's not ignorant, he just spends too much time with his tol....Have you ever been to Tol fadhi kudirir?
  10. Somalia;768464 wrote: I never said I had any control in Bokh, but why is Bokh DIFFERENT? s. Cuz it's Ethiopia's little B!atch...is that clear enough for you.
  11. Somalia;768453 wrote: Were you dropped as a baby? Of course Puntland didn't exist, but the tribes that live in Puntland did.. So why isn't Puntland being terrorized by Ethiopians, and why aren't the people of Bokh region of Somali Galbeed? Because like some other regions acquiescence to Woyanes demands! And please you have no control Bokh, so let's not get into that. The sadder thing here is you don't see the greater humiliation being inflicted on Somalis. Woyanes took pictures of themselves in front of Somali Defense Depart while they shelled Xamar, the very center of the Somali. There is or was no bigger prize than Xamar.
  12. ^Puntland didn't exist then and now it's still at the mercy of foreign powers:-)
  13. ^We all were and are the mercy of colonial powers....only a fool would convince himself that his tribal homeland is the exception.
  14. Abdul;768364 wrote: We havent seen or heard Ethiopia fight a war without getting outside help.In almost every war,foreign armies and power come to their rescue. So true, even those that supported us undercut us case in point Jimmy Carter administration. Well, Zack has some news on Wayones and ONLF.
  15. Somalia;768422 wrote: We haven't been colonized like you, and why is that? Why is it that the Ethiopians never cross into Puntland or burn people up in Bokh, Somali Galbeed? Could it be you were colonized by Italians and Bokh is loyal to the Woyanes.
  16. It was said no one was arrested cuz the men are men of God...lool
  17. ONLF shouldn't accept anything short of complete independence. I very doubt this news.
  18. By Barry Malone Wednesday, December 28, 2011 NAIROI (Reuters) - Five hundred years ago, an Imam who ruled much of what is now Somalia, led a daring invasion of Christian Ethiopia, looting monasteries, burning down churches and slaying all who resisted. Centuries on, memories of Imam Ahmad Gragn aka Gurey still haunt both countries, and echoes of that long and bloody history still ripple across the Horn of Africa region which considers Somalia the greatest threat to its stability. Back then, the Ethiopians were beleaguered as the invaders occupied some two-thirds of the country. Help eventually came in the form of 400 Portuguese musketeers, who sailed into Massawa port and embarked on a six-day march to the front. Gragn had his backers too. Reinforcements from Arabia soon rolled in alongside a gift from the Ottoman Empire: 900 of its famously hardened musket experts. The war lasted over a decade. Fast forward to the present day, and with Ethiopian troops deploying over the border again last month to fight Islamist rebels linked to al Qaeda, the latest chapter of a book with few uplifting passages was written. Though present-day incursions and clashes are driven by strategic motivations and regional politicking against the backdrop of the global war on terror, those centuries-old grudges, raids and musket-battles still shape events. "In Ethiopia, the damage which Gragn did has never been forgotten," Ethiopia expert, Paul Henze, wrote in a book on the country's history, Layers of Time. "Every Christian highlander still hears tales of Gragn in his childhood. I have often had villagers in northern Ethiopia point out sites of towns, forts, churches and monasteries destroyed by Gragn as if these catastrophes had occurred only yesterday." Though Gragn's ethnicity is disputed by historians, Ethiopians know his army was overwhelmingly manned by ethnic Somalis, and that stings. DELICATE RELATIONS, COMPLEX HISTORY Somalis, too, are haunted by past Ethiopian invasions. Ethiopia and Somalia still hand-pick powerful allies keen to win clout in the Horn of Africa. Its location on the Gulf of Aden and its potential as a base for militant Islam make it an ideal arena for proxy wars, influence-peddling and diplomatic skullduggery. The two countries - Ethiopia then supported by the Soviet Union and Cuba and Somalia supported by the United States - fought one of their many wars over Ethiopia's mainly ethnic-Somali ****** region in 1977-1978. Ethiopia's victory was helped by some crack Cuban troops, a modern day echo of the foreigners who helped in the sixteenth century. Since then, Western and Eastern powers have switched allegiances, depending on the politics of those in power. These days, Ethiopia, seen as a critical bulwark against the rise of Islamist militancy in the strategic region next to the world's busiest shipping lanes, is Washington's main ally. "An unstable Horn of Africa could have a destabilising effect on the world," a Western diplomat in the region told Reuters. "The U.S., Britain, China - and increasingly Turkey -are all trying to get a foothold here for both security reasons and economic reasons. Ethiopia makes the best ally right now." But despite the leadership changes, and the temporary alliances in a region that is no stranger to pragmatic politics, that old animosity is playing out again. ETHIOPIA. WHO ELSE? At the centre of the latest episode between the two nations is the Islamist rebel group, al Shabaab, which has declared holy war on the still mostly-Christian Ethiopia, and threatened to launch suicide attacks in its capital, Addis Ababa. Neighbouring Kenya sent troops across the border in October, unsettled by a spate of security attacks it blamed on the militants, with the aim of dismantling the rebels' networks. Ethiopia watched closely, analysts say, unsure of whether the Kenyan intervention would work. Finally, a month ago, with the Kenyans stalled, its troops moved into Somalia to arm and train the pro-government militia Ahlu Sunna Waljamaca (ASWJ). Such is the delicacy, that Ethiopia has not admitted publicly to its latest incursion despite scores of testimony from local witnesses, elders and reporters. "The knowledge of history as well as the unwillingness to hand al Shabaab the propaganda coup, just when the terrorist group is weakened, probably has a great deal to do with Ethiopia's reluctance to do more than build up the capacity of local Somali allies like ASWJ and to try to politically unite them in a common effort," J. Peter Pham, Africa director with the Atlantic Council, told Reuters. Until now, Ethiopia had seemed reluctant to get involved in Somalia again after a 2006-2009 incursion to overthrow another Islamist group that had taken over Mogadishu sparked such ire among some Somalis that al Shabaab rose from its ashes. This time, the Ethiopians say, their hand was forced. "Somebody needed to go in and help. Somalia is the world's biggest security problem and that threatens everybody," an Ethiopian official told Reuters. "We're aware that, for some Somalis, we are not the best choice and that is why we are being careful. But, yet again, who else?" (Editing by David Clarke and Maria Golovnina) Source
  19. Now here's beautiful prose. Stoic posted it on in the Troll Corner