Abtigiis.....Keep my name out of this.

^LOL

Let Somalis live in peace Zambian Watchdog Sunday, December 16, 2012 The person who shot dead that Ndola man must be punished in accordance with the law. If the person is, after the due process of the law, found guilty of murder or manslaughter, he must be punished accordingly, whether he is Zambian or Somali. But Zambians in Ndola should not take their lack of Millie meal, fuel and electricity on Somalis. It is clear that the people who were looting shops owned by Somalis were motivated more by hunger than love of the dead compatriot. If that is not true, how come we saw people carrying bags of rice, sugar and other edibles from those shops? Is that how we express anger in Zambia now, by stealing food? It is very shameful that the friendly city of Ndola could engage itself in such lawlessness and *********. There was absolutely no need for Ndola residents to burn the shops of Somalis just because one man presumably Zambian and another presumably Somali fought and one was killed. The best those who consider themselves Zambian could have done was to avenge the death of their relative on the man who killed him. Why attack a shop of someone who does not even know the person who killed the other, just because he came from the same country? Let us not develop a reputation of xenophobia for our country. We have a good reputation so far of being friendly people. Of course that does not mean other people should take advantage of our good nature. But beating up people from other countries and stealing their food when one of them commits a crime is utter rubbish. There is a civilised and acceptable way of dealing with people who commit crime on the Zambian soil. Yes in Zambia we have a reputation of administering mob justice which can be or cannot be good depending on the set of facts. But whenever we go that route, we target the culprit as an individual. But why is Ndola targeting innocent Somalis? Zambian also commits crimes in other countries. We have so many reported cases of Zambian committing crimes in other countries. There are so many Zambians in prisons of different countries. Other Zambians are currently on the run from other countries for crimes they committed as individuals. Should people in those countries also riot, beat all Zambians and ransack their houses? We are sure some of those people who were stealing food in the name of avenging the death of their compatriot are now on the buses to South Africa, Tanzania, China and other countries to do business. What if you land their and find that Zambian are targets of a riot because someone from Zambia committed a crime in that country? Let us learn to demonstrate over things that are truly important. We should not allow our petty jealousies make us blind and hate foreigners for our failures. Foreigners could be running successful businesses in Ndola and Zambian failing to operate tumtembas; but that should not be blamed on foreigners. In fact wherever you will go in Africa, you will discover that Africans from other countries are running more successful businesses than the local people. The issue here is that Ndola residents are not so much angered by the killing of the Zambian; it’s more about the businesses of Somali people. The PF regime is also directly to blame for the problems in Ndola. The government has in the past few months demonstrated unhealthy hatred for people who are not Zambians. The PF government has been deporting people for no apparent reasons. The behaviour of the government has sent signals to the people that this is the time to sort out foreigners who are in Zambia. The PF regime has created and communicated to the people of Zambia that whenever there is a dispute between a Zambian and foreigner, the foreigner must be sorted out even if he is in the right. This is what motivated the people of Ndola to steal food from Somalis. The PF is promoting xenophobia through its reckless deportations of foreigners without giving them a chance to seek justice. When the people of Ndola were beating up Somalis, they believed they had the full backing of the government. http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2012/Dec/27321/let_somalis_live_in_peace.aspx

There are 36 gun dealers within 10 miles radius of Sandy Hook Elementary. There are more gun dealers than McDonald's. There are 200 millions guns plus guns in circulation. 85 Americans die from gunshots everyday. N yes, we shouldn't ban guns.

Apophis...You are guest of whatever you live in, do you deserve the treatment being inflicted on Somalis in Zambia or elsewhere in Africa simply because another committed or chose to open a shop in economically depressed town? lol@decent, when have I become indecent; Abtigiis....Reading your post, it seems you are justifying that, if I misread, my apologies then. N you could have made your point without Puntland into the conversation.

Jacpher;899584 wrote: ^ His tol is not included in that twisted logic. They are the exception here. Wax fahan. He reminds of wadaad who said woman with skimpy clothes should expect to be raped. Abtigiis....I didn't say you were clanish but I find it sad you would make the distinction, and what's more justify the actions of Zambians. N Somaligalbeed is my problem and its people are my people. I make no distinction of tribes there simply because we are fighting collective enemy.

Jacpher;899577 wrote: ^You couldn't have come up with any worst example We follow these men to the gates of hell and to what end?

Abtigiis...If that's case, I guess the collective punishment inflicted on Somalis in Somaligalbeed since 2007 is well deserved considering their support for ONLF. Barbaric Somalis need to put in their place!

I look at two men that used their tolka to the max and destroyed Somalia in the process, the late Aidid and Yusuf. What legacy have they left for their tol? Not single school, universities, infrastructure, etc.

Two extremes, Somalis had it coming Or 'Africans' brutal baboons. Moderation people as with everything in life.

Tolka is simply retarded. Complete lack of accountability is what drive these men to steal.

lool@Puntlander, you couldn't leave at Somali. You typify what's wrong with people. I wonder if Zambians could tell the difference you and Puntlander.

I really wonder who are actual individuals pressuring him not accept this? And who appointed them to be that tribe leaders?

^You implied that you are not African by referring to them as African baboons. Does it matter who Somalis loot from? We do and kill indiscriminately.

Beyond meaningless pride, if these people had one of theirs leading a ministry, what could he possibly do for them?

Wasiir ku xigeenkii Is casilay oo ugu baaqay madaxda dowladda inay ka shaqeeyaan Cadaalada Beelaha Soomaaliyeed. Published on December 15, 2012 by mohamed somali · No Comments Mas’uul ka tirsan dowlada Soomaaliya ayaa ugu baaqay Mas’uuliyiinta ugu sar sareysa madaxda dowlada in ay ka shaqeeyaan cadaalada iyo sinnaanta beelaha Soomaaliyeed. Sheekh Abuukar Xasan Cali oo labo maalin ka hor loo magacaabay wasiir ku xigeenka maaliyada dowlada Soomaaliya ayaa maalintii shalay ahayd wuxuu shaaciyay in uusan xilkaasi beeshiisu aysan ku qanacsaneyn islamarkaana uu iska casilay. Sheekh Abuukar Xasan ayaa ku sheegay in magacaabista jagada wasiirka ku xigeenka uusan u qalmin beeshiisuna aysan ku qanacsaneyn loona baahan yahay in sida ugu dhaqsiyaha badan arintaasi ay u soo fara giliso dowlada Soomaaliya waxna ka badasho. Mas’uulkaan xilka iska casilay ayaa ka mid ahaa wasiiro dhowr ah maalmo ka hor uu soo magacaabay Ray’salwasaaraha Soomaaliya, kuwaasi oo gaarayay ilaa iyo 20 wasiiro ku xigeeno balse uu Sheekh Abuukar oo laga dhigay wasiir ku xigeenka maaliyada dowlada Soomaaliya xikaasi gabi ahaanba ka soo horjeestay. http://www.soomaalinews.com/wasiir-ku-xigeenkii-is-casilay-oo-ugu-baaqay-madaxda-dowladda-inay-ka-shaqeeyaan-cadaalada-beelaha-soomaaliyeed/

Never mind Jacpher

I want to note You are an AFRICAN Jacpher.

When you don't respect yourself, no one will. Atleast the police seems to be doing something.

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Good start

I only read the book. So what was the hidden meaning?

lool@old, but I wasn't old in 2001, the first lord of the rings. Hopefully, it's entertaining enough. Atleast, the storyline seems uncomplicated.

The dam thing is 165 minutes long. I think I will fall sleep again..lool

SeeKer;899312 wrote: I don't think anyone goes to the movies to be enlightened so i doubt it will do much but let me know if its worth a trip to the theatre. I don't think anyone would be either, it brings the subject matter into the mainstream. Let me put this way, just think about the number of holocaust movies and how people are not shy to discuss that subject. Are you Tarantino fan?