It doesn't matter who FIGHTS in a group, it's who FINANCES it. If Sherban Shabeel was fighting for ash-Shabaab, that wouldn't make Shabaab a Romanian Christian movement, would it? Just like the presence of Arabs in it doesn't mean Shabaab is fighting for Arab interests. It's all about the generals and big bosses. Therefore, while I'm very, very disappointed with Shabaab for trying to overthrow the government, I would never support Ahlu Sunna. Despite it's 100% Somali constituency (if what Meiji says is true), Ahlu Sunna is as foreign-backed and outside-financed as they get.

The Islamists in the opposition will never pacify the country. This isn't 2006 anymore. The way to pacify the country in 2009 was to cooperate with the government and focus on building roads and returning property. But let's say I'm TERRIBLY wrong, and by some miracle Shabaab/XizbulIslam manage to unite Somalia for good and silence everyone's guns...I will thank God, give up politics for ever and take up gardening instead.

surprise, surprise! I think we all saw this coming miles away...

Marx, I'm afraid your comments here speak more of your character than the girls' character.

Ahlu Sunna has always been a non-factor

NORTH WEEZY they dope

Turki is a brilliant military mind, whereas Aweys is a political pretender. Regardless of their alliance, I don't think Turki respects Aweys on a human level. In fact, the move to attempt an armed takeover of Mogadishu is one of the stupidest plans ever put into action in Somalia since Ethiopia decided to invade in 2006. Turki has got to see it.

You can see on Turki's face what he thinks of hyena Aweys and his ****** plan...

They try to make Shariif out as some sort of puppet because he is supported by the international community. And they use outside support for him as a reason to overthrow him. If Shabaab gets American support, won't the same thing happen to them?

Shariif

Props to the warriors, but you will never take Xamar by force bro

Will the Somali people support a shabaab government? Does shabaab have the strength to stay in power and end bloodshed? Personally, I think it's no and no right now, but if only it was yes and yes...

Originally posted by The_Siren: There’s only one reason I can use to explain Sherban Shabeel’s little show of (Save the Arabs campaign) outburst, And that’s due to him having some sort of filthy Arab blood running through his viens, most likely Yemenis as he seems to know much of what other Al sacuud Arabs consider the lesser even simian in look and texture typed Arabs. LMAO! I’m kidding people good lord, so I enjoy being Racist and silly and obviously throwing out slurring racial stereotypes which are truly unfair. Why shouldn’t I? I’m among Somalis aren’t I? Simply because some of you are not as thoroughbred as me is by no means a reason to hate and detest me...embrace me. (grins whilst pulling on her bullet proof vest) Plus my topic is what I consider a form of anecdotal evidence…. Were there leering filthy north African Arabs? Yes Was the atmosphere somewhat seedy and degenerate? Yes (lol-Again personal ideas differ) Was the food in the particular place inspired? No Did I personally feel out of place? Yes Did these places of shisha blowing come across as a sort of breeding ground? Yes These are the results of my finding whether you care for them or not isn’t that much of an issue. But I’m glad you put into your point of view makes for an interesting and amusing time. Ngonge- Horta whats your problem? You got some sort of soft spot for those onion eating, halitosis suffering sexual deviants? (Laughs her **** off and nearly cracks a rib in the process) Good lord I’m kidding people I’m kidding! Wallahi I am LOL-Man I love being a nuisance. (Chucks his Shisha back in face) No thanks… Cynical? LOL Long time no see, glad to see your still very much alive and kicking and very much passionate as always Adam- God I thought you had bigger balls than that? All I have to say is one world. Arabi loving TRAITOR! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ...(wipes the tears of laughter from her eyes) God I'm having fun tonight. Stand by your racist convictions man- thats the only way you'll gain true respect. (tries to hold a straightface) lol you sounds like a kid who got caught with his hand in the candy jar

*clap clap*

Originally posted by The_Siren: these filthy Arabs Originally posted by The_Siren: Paragon- I share in your hate of all things arab as well. LOL-I believe its in all Somali people to hate Arabs and xabashiis. hehehe (No offense to any Arabs or insectopians of course) Examples of why this thread sucks.

In all honesty, I don't know who chewed khat first, but Yemenis have been doing it for centuries (since the 1400's at least). While my previous post was distorted by annoyance at the nature of this thread, the example of the Yemeni woman being looked at strange for chewing khat was just as ignorant. Also, this entire thread is "condescending" and "paternalistic". "Oh look at those Arab men luring poor Somali girls into their tobacco-flavored brothels to leer at them" PLEASE! Whether you're chinese, somali or arab, a beautiful woman draws a man's attention, period. And she will draw the attention of a man, whether she's in a brothel, classroom, shisha coffehouse, or in the street.

People in Yemen were chewing khat before Somalis even knew what it was. Also, in reponse to this thread, stop hating on shisha joints. Just because you can't get with the atmosphere, doesn't make them "shady, seedy" places. Stop the paranoia.

Personally, I find it a bit disrespectful to gloat over how "Somaliland is so much better than South Somalia" when Xamar is burning...

Where did you get this? Phone, news wires? TV?

Oh no, I cheered when Shabaab took Kismaayo and all those other cities. I didn't even mind that they were walking around Xamar at their leisure. See, Shariif has a lot of things to do. If Shabaab can do part of his job for him, all the better! But when a certain power-hungry hyena uses good old Shabaab to get his claws on the President's chair, that's a whole different story.

^lol, ouch

I thought Turki had arrived days ago with "hundreds of footsoldiers". Now he's on his way with "massive reinforcements"... Whatever, I'll tell you what. I'll settle for Turki as president (or caliph, or whatever other fantasy you might have), but I can bet my right hand on't: he won't last more than a few months at most. Some ***** will declare him a traitor, a slave, a puppet, or a tyrant even, will declare the blood of his followers lawful, Kashafa will gobble it up like he always does, and we're back to today. Kashafa, aren't these endless cycles and underhanded power struggles obvious to you, sadiq? I know that deep down in your heart you realize the rebels will start fighting amongst themselves if they win. Their unity is in war...

^If the Sheekh can defend himself from the unleashed hordes of hell disguised in flavor-of-the-day "Islamic" costumes, he can sure as hell defend himself from your slander. It's been -what- a week already? Weren't you supposed to take Villa Somalia on Monday? LMFAO

Curse the day Aweys was welcomed back with open arms in the name of reconciliation!

Kashafa, no matter how much you pray for it, Somalia's flag will never be black. It's blue with a white star in the middle.