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I have no idea? If he is I would have hoped for him to at least speak out against the problem facing the people there. Though I would not expect that since he works closely with Inda Cade.. Xiin, the problem for me so far is that nothing much has changed in southern Somalia. Apart from the rebranding of the USC and the removal of the incompetent old guard[warlods]. We still have an occupation that stretches from Mogadishu to Kismayu, we still have the unarmed clans in their place of servitude and so on.
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ThePoint, I tell you one thing; if you or another Muslim or in this case the whole of Somalis, lost their mind and dwell in inhumanity, I will come to knock some sense and humanity into them Funny stuff wallahi
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No I would welcome the people of those regions taking the helm, Mr Robow being an agent of Inda Cade and one who never ever even comments on the plight of the people there would not give confidance to anyone. No saxib, end the occupation and empower the local clans. I dont know why thats such a time consuming and some what complex issue?
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Courts to attack Gedo + Barre to counter attack..
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Sorry there are no Seeraar and Goobanle in Gedo/ As for your comment funny invitation that leads to riots and arrests of women. -
Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
Ahmed Gurey, I never claimed Kismayu was mine or my clans. So I sugegst you pick that fight with someone else. What I sais is that Xasan Turki is from the occupied Somali region. He has no more legitimacy than Hiiraale and Moragn before him. He is being used like Hiiraale and Jess before him. Refute all you like but remember the clan claims over Kismayu means very little to my person. Its a Somali city and those who live there own it.. -
The fakery of it all. Like the wepons of Goobanle and Seeraar going to Cayrow who happens to be a member of the gang already. Seeraar is now the security chief of Kismayu, soon you will here Inda Cade handing over the lower Shabbele to Shiekh Xasan Dahir and retaining the postion of security chief of the courts. The occupation of Lower Shabbele will continue...
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Courts to attack Gedo + Barre to counter attack..
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Ahmed_Gurey, brother Kismayu is part of Somalia and it is the biggest headline maker. NN, no predictions there are rumours they want to extend to Gedo.. -
Courts to attack Gedo + Barre to counter attack..
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Kismaayo: Maxakmadaha oo qorshaynaya in ay weeraraan Gobolka Gedo. Khamiis, September 28, 2006 Kismaayo (AllPuntland)- Maxkamadaha magaalada Muqdisho aya waxa ay shaaca ka qaadeen in ay sii wadayaan dhul ballaarsiga ay ku wadaan gobolada dalka Soomaaliya. Tiro ka mid ah gawaarida dagaalka ee maxkamadaha ee dhowaan gacanta ku dhigay magaalada Kismaayo ayaa waxa ay u soo ruqan sadeen deegaanada Gobolka Gedo iyaga oo sheegay in ay gacnta ku dhigayaan deegaanada dhiman ee gobolada Jubooyinka iyo gobolka Gedo. Saraakiil u hadashay ciidamada maxkamadaha ayaa waxa ay sheegeen in ay arrimahaasi uga danleeyihiin in ay difaacaan weerarro ay qorshaynayaan ciidamo uu wato wasiirka gaashaan dhigu in ay ku soo laba kacleeyaan magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobolka Jubada Hoose. Maxkamadaha ayaa waxa ay wateen tiro aad u fara badan oo ka mid ah ciidamadii ay ku qabsadeen magaalada Kismaayo. Warar ka soo baxay madaxda maxkamadaha ayaa waxaa lagu sheegay in weeraradooda ugu ballaaran ay ku wajahan yihiin deegaanada Afmadoow iyo Bu`aale oo ay sheegeen in laga yaabo in ay so gaaraan ciidamada Col. Barre Hiiraale. Taliye ku xigeenka ciidamada Booliska ee magaalada Baardheere Daahir Aaden Yusuf (Garey) oo saxaafaddu la xiriirtay ayaa waxa uu sheegay in ay samayn doonaan ka hor tag ku aadan sidii ay uga hor tagi lahaayeen ciidamada maxkmadaha ee gobolka ku soo fool leh. Daahir Garey ayaa waxa uu intaasi ku daray in uu ay diyaarsadeen ciidamo kala duwan oo qaar kood hoos tagaan xukuumadda Soomaliya. Arrimahani ayaa waxa ay ku soo aadamayaan iyada oo wasiirka gaashaan dhigga ee dawladda Soomaaliya uu ku soo fool leeyahay magaalada Baydhabo ee xarunta gobolka Bay. M. J. Koronto AllPuntland -
Somalia: Bare to make counter attack on Kismayo Tue. September 26, 2006 03:16 pm. Send this news article Mohamed Abdi Farah Bare Hirale (SomaliNet) Leader of the collapsed the Juba Valley coalition and minister of defense in the transitional federal government Bare Adam Shire Hirale with battle wagons and militiamen loyal to him reached overnight a village in Gedo region in southwest of Somalia. Col. Bare and his militia have abandoned the port city of Kismayo after Islamic militants led by Sheikh Hasan Turki got closer to the city wishing to engage war with the coalition. Bare has been ruling there nearly 10 years. The Islamic Courts then captured the last southern city with out war. It is not yet known why Col. Bare did so, with some reports say Mr. Bare meant for war technique and is feared to make counter attack. It is unclear so far his last destination but it is thought to be heading to El-Waq district of Gedo region or Baidoa city, the seat of the government, where he will be regrouping to retake Kismayo city of lower Juba region. The takeover in kismayo by the Islamic Courts affirms total control of southern Somalia and puts more pressure on the weak government whose authority is limited to Baidoa only.
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Italy: Dagaalka lagula jiro argagaxisada caalamiga ah oo ka bilowday badaha Soomaaliya. Khamiis, September 28, 2006 Corriere Della Sera Italy: Dagaalka lagula jiro argagaxisada caalamiga ah oo ka bilowday badaha Soomaaliya. Italy (AllPuntland)- Sida ay qortay saxaafadda wadanka Talyaaniga markab cidamo sigu jira ajnabi iyo Soomali u siday maxkamadaha magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa lagu dajiyay ciidankii uu sidayna lagu laayay badda Soomaaliya. Markabkani ayaa waxaa la sheegay in ay weerarkaasi ku qaadeen diyaarado aan la garanayn dalka laga leeyahay, iyada oo dadka uu wadayna ay ka soo kala jeedeen wadamada:- Carabta, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Oromo, Eretrian iyo Soomaali, waxaana hor kacayay saraakii Eretrian ah. Wargayska Corriere Della Sera ayaa waxa uu sheegay in markabkani uu ka soo ambabxay wadanka Eretriya caasimadiisa Asmara, iyada oo falkani uu dhacay inta lagu jiray bishan Septembar. Corriere Della Sera ayaa waxa uu intaasi ku daray in dilkii loo gaystyay sooradii u dhalatay wadanka talyaaniga ay dilkeeda ka danbeeyeen dad ajnabi ah oo u dhashay wadanka Eretria. Arrintabi ayaa waxa ay u muuqataa in ay hor dhac u tahay dagaalka caalamiga ah ee lagula jiro argagixisada uu ka bilowday geeska Afrika gaar ahaan wadanka Soomaaliya oo la sheego in uu hooy u noqday argagixisada Caalamka. M. J. Koronto AllPuntland. Warbixinta wargayska ayaa waxa ay u qornayd. Il governo di transizione è invece appoggiato oltre che dagli etiopi anche dagli americani e dagli ugandesi. Un colonnello di Kampala è rimasto ferito nell’attentato contro il presidente Abdullahi Yussuf, rimasto illeso, la settimana scorsa. L’inviato speciale del governo italiano, Mario Raffaelli, si sta adoperando per creare un ponte tra governo e islamici e cercare di arrivare a un accordo prima di uno scontro frontale Corti/Etiopia che può avere delle conseguenza nefaste non solo per la Somalia, ma per tutto il Corno d’Africa. La comunità internazionale sembra comunque impotente davanti al dilagare degli islamici. Il Somaliland, l’ex colonia britannica che si è autoproclamata indipendente nel 1991 e che cinicamente nessun Paese ha ancora riconosciuto nonostante sia stata pacificata e in qualche modo governata da un regime democratico, nei giorni scorsi ha lanciato un appello: “Se non ci aiutate in fretta e non ci riconoscete, rischiamo anche noi di finire nelle mani degli integralistiâ€. Massimo A. Alberizzi 26 settembre 2006
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The demo's are still going, no amount of spin can hide the fact that people are starting to see the truth..
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Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
^^^You have a point there, Xasan Turki did not deny or go around the fact that he has other nationals as part of his millitia. He might need them, and he made a good point. But Sharif Ahmed seems lost sticking to that script of his. -
Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
^^^ How can one balance what Xasan Turki says and what Sharif Ahmed in Mogadishu says, who is telling the truth? -
Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
^^^How many foreigners are alleged to be present in Kismayu? The news reports are not clear. Also why have the courts not hid these fighters? -
Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
^^^Horn I think you might be pushing it a bit too far with that one. But do tell us your point of view, do you have relatives in the city? What are the boys in Gedo planning to do? -
Baardheere: Huge demo against clan courts....
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
^^^I am sorry, is there any report from Somalia that does not contain clan refrences or some clan based angle in its delivery? For exmple Seeraar & Goobanle handed their wepons over to the courts. The wepons and fighters went to an officer of the courts named Adan Xashi Cayrow. What does that tell you? -
Kismaayo Airport held by Pakistani and Oromo army, Gedonet reports.
General Duke replied to Jacpher's topic in Politics
^^^ Xiin, I hope you know I was never a fan of Hiiraale and his rule of Kismayu. However what took place is not a solution unless one is deluding himself. Kismayu, more than any other city has suffered in the ongoing civil war. It hosted many armed factions and clans including the late Siyad Barre, late Aydeed, Morgan, Jess, Morgan and then JVA. Each clan based faction added new scars to both the property and the population of the city. What I don’t understand is how this new invasion by the courts solves the long term problem of the city? One clan has been sidelined while a new one has replaced it. They replaced with the boys from Gedo with the lads of Afmadow. Kind of reminds of the story I read online equating Xasan Turki with Omar Jess. Hiiraale is bent on returning and is seeking the supports of his clan who see are now the new victimes robed and trampled on as others before them. If it is an Islamic takeover why the pretence of putting Xasan Turki, in the place of Hiiraale? Xasan Turki is not even from the region and does not have any more legitimacy than Hiiraale. These courts always open a new can of worms when ever they make a move. Their denial of the occupation of lower Shabbele, the reason a clan was kicked out while another was allowed to stay, the flag burning incident. Expect more trouble in Kismayu so long as some one feel aggrieved, that’s the one lesson we can take from our recent past. -
I don't ask you to support anything. I simply ask you to uphold Islamic principles and common human decency. See paragraph above for further details. I also don't make excuses for anyone - I simply ask the courts to enact their stated agenda of Islamniimo and Islax. So far they've seemed to concentrate on expanding territory and power. Sorta undermines their stated agenda no? You have a poimt there. Islamic rule is the future of Somalia insha Allah. The point here is the fear one has of clan domination, by the very people who yesterday were all for clan domination and who even invented the 4.5 formula. ME, no one has won, it seems we have all lost.
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A question: Somali clans claim of being Arab...
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in General
You an Am-XAAR without a doubt. Ahmed Gran? Who is Ahmed Gran? and whats an Amxaarin? is that what they call AM-XAAR-O in your language? Your language betrayed you Roaddawg, Somalis don't talk like that. So that makes you an Am-XAAR. -
Baardheere: Huge demo against clan courts....
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
^^^ Salaam. I posted reports and nothing else, so you need to chill before you make statements. -
Dibad bax ka dhan ah qabsashada Maxaakiimta ee Kismaayo oo ka dhacay Baar Dheere. Bardhere:-Dadweyne aad u fara badan ayaa maanta isugu soo baxay magaalada Baardheere ee gobolka Gedo,iyagoo banaan baxaasi ku cadeyay in ay ka soo horjeedaan qabsashada Maxaakimta ee magaalada Kismaayo. Dibad baxa oo ahaa mid aad u weyn ayaa waxaa kasoo qeyb galay dhaman dhinacyada Bulshada gobolka Gedo,iyo Culimaa'udiinka kuwaasi oo siweyn u dhaliilay qaabkii Maxaakiimtu ay ku tageen magaalada Kismaayo. Dibad baxayaasha aya socod kusoo maray wadooyinka magaalada Baardheere iyagoo ku dhawaaqayay halku dhigyo ay kaga soo horjeeda Maxkamadaha. Dibad baxaasi oo lagu waday in uu kasoo qeybgalo Wasiirka Gaashaan dhigga dowladda FS Barre Hiiraale ee lagasoo saaray Kismaayoa ayaa ka baaqday iyadoo sababtana lagu micneeyay in Wasiirku uu aad u daalan yahay kadib maalmo dhowr ah uu socod kusoo jiray. Mid kamid ah Dibad baxayaasha oo hadal jeediyay ayaa sheegay in Maxaakiimta ay taageersanaayeen isla markaana ay rumeysnaayen in Diin ay wadaan balse haatan ay u cadaatay in meesha diin uusan jirin balse ay tahay dhul balaarsi qabiileedkii lagu yaqiinay Somaliya. Waxaa dadweynaha ay si weyn u canbaareeyeen sababka Maxaakiimta ay u tagi la'yihiin gobolka Sh/Hoose.oo uu ka jiro maamul aan Islaami aheyn isla markaana xoog lagu heysto dhulal iyo beero ay dad masaakiin ah leeyihiin. Dibad baxyada is xig xiga ee ka dhanka ah Maxaakiimta ayaa wiiqi kara dadaalada Maxkamadaha ay ku doonayaan in shacbiga Somaliyeed ay kalsooni kaga raadsadaan iyadoo shacbiga Somaliyeed ay si weyn ugu farxeen isbadalkii Maxkamadaha ay ka samyeen magaalada Muqdisho. Jibril Nur Waayha-Bardheere-Somalia
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MUQDISHO: Maraakiib lagu rarayo dhuxul oo ku xiran Dekedda Ceel-macaan xilli Maxkamaduhu ay amar ka soo saareen Arrintaas Posted to the Web Sep 27, 11:51 Muqdisho (PP) - Ugu yaraan 5-markab oo lagu wado inay ka qaadaan Dhuxul ayaa ku xiran dekedda Macmalka ah ee Ceel-macaan, waxaana wararka ka imaanaya Ceel-macaan ay xaqiijinayaan ay gaartay Dekedda Dhuxul aad u fara badan oo lagu rarayo Maraakiibtaas. Maxkamdaha oo horay uga soo saaray digniin arrintaan ayaa waxay layaab iyo amakaag ku noqotay shacabka Magaalada Muqdisho, waxaana ganacsatada dhoofsanaysa Dhuxusha ay sheegeen inay ka codsadeen Maxkamadaha inay dhoofsadaan dhuxushooda. Waxay sidoo kale sheegeen inay ka ogolaadeen inay dhoofsadaan dhuxusha, balse ganacsatadu waxay ka gaabsadeen inay ka hadlaan inay weligooda dhoofsanayaan iyo in kale, waxayna carrabka ku ballaariyeen inay dhoofka dhuxusha tahay mid aan istaagay cid gaar ahna aysan istaajin karin. Arrintaan ayaa waxaa ka aamusay xubnaha maxkamadaha oo iyagu su'aalo ku aaddan sababta dhuxusha loo dhoofinayo ah la weydiiyay, waxaana mas'uul ka tirsan Maxkamadaha uu sheegay in dhuxushaas la dhoofinayo ay ka warhayaan aysanna haatan doonayn inay wax hadal ah ka jeediyaan. Wareegtadii lagu mamnuucay Dhoofinta dhuxusha iyo biraha Iskaraabka ah ayaan weli dhaqangelin, waxaana ganacsatada Dhuxusha oo digniintaas loo jeediyay ku adkeysanayaan inaan ganacsigooda la horistaagi karin isla markaana ay sii wadanayaan. Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile Wakiilka Puntlandpost - Mogadishu E-mail: puntlandpostmog@hotmail.com
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List of lies from so called Islamic courts...
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
I think we need to go past individual differences and recent history. The people behind the courts played members of a certain clan against each other for more than a decade now. Look in Mogadishu, Hiiraale became the enemy when he started the Jubaland project. Hiiraale, proved to be his own man when he said NO to Seeraar, Abdiqasin and others. He is not defeated and striped of his support as proven by the reception in Gedo.. -
Faalo: Maxkamadaha Islaamiga Muqdishu been ma sheegaan? Posted to the MOL September 27, 2006, 8:04 am Kooxaha Maxkamdaha Muqdishu ee magaalada kismaayo xooga ku qabsaday ayaa waxay sheegtaan inay yihiin koox u socota inay diinta alle u adeegaan una sahlaan dadka somaliyeed sidii ay diinta islaamka isugu xukumi lahaayeen. Haddaba arimaha illaa hadda dad badan oo diinta jeclaan lahaa in la isku xukumo ka yaabisay oo ka didisay ayaa ah markay arkeen niman culumo sheeganaya oo haddana been cad maalin walba sheegaya. Dadka muslimka dhabtaa ayaan lagu aqoon inay been sheegaan. Haddaba imisay le'eg tahay beenta illaa hadda Maxkadaha Muqdishu sheegeen? Hoos ayaan ku soo aruurinay beenta maxkadaha ee 2 bilood ee u dambeysay: Waxay horey u sheegeen inaysan Kismaayo qabsan doonin taas oo ay buriyeen oo haatan ay magaaladdii xoog ku qabsadeen. Xasan Turki oo wata ninka wata ciidanka Kismaayo qabsaday ayaa maalmo ka hor intuusan Ksimaayo tegin sheegay inuusan Kismaayo u socon ee u socdo Afmadow. taas oo been noqotay oo meesha xasan turki u socdayna ay ahayd kismaayo. Mar wax laga weydiiyay maxaa kismaayo ku keenay maadaama aad u socotay degmada afmadow ayuu ku jawaabay; annigoo meeshaan maraya ayaa arkay magaalada oo la baneeyay markaas ayaan ku soo leexday si aan u sugo nabada. Ciidanka Yuusuf Indhacadde oo xoog ku haysta magaalada Marka ayay waxay maxkamadaha muqdishu ku tilmaameen magaalada Marka meel ay maxkamaduhu gacanta ku hayaan oo aysan ka jirin wax takri fal ah oo ka dhan ah xaquuqda dadka deegaanka. Taas oo been ah iyadoo la soo xaqiijiyay in dadka Sh/hoose ay caadamada Indhacadde ku hayaan dhibaatooyin ka baxsan bini'aadninimada. Waxay kooxaha Maxkamaduhu inkireen inay ciidamo shisheeye keeneen wadanka. Haddana waxaa la arkay Xasan Turki oo isagoo Kismaayo ka qudbaynaya ku faanaya inay wataan kooxo ajnabi ah. Waxaa kaloo Kismaayo lagu arkay ciidamo ajnami ah wajigu u duuban yahay. Waxay Inkireen in calankii Somaliya ay gubeen kuna badaleen mid ay kale oo iyagu samaysteen. Waxay inkireen in dad ku dhinteen mudaharaadkii Kismaayo ee looga soo horjeeday qabsashadooda magaalada kismaayo.Iyadoo la soo xaqiijiyay in 3 qof ku dhinteen maalintii ugu horeysay ee mudaharaadka oo ku jiray wiil yar oo dhawr iyo toban jir ah. Waxay ku sheegeen mudaharaadkii Kismaayo ee looga soo horjeeday mid ay ka dambeeyeen dumarka jaadka gada, iaydoo la soo xaqiijyay in dadka Kismaayo aysan ukala harin mudaharaadkaas oo wali socda. Waxay horey u sheegeen inaysan marnaba weerari doonin magaalada Jawhar ugu dambeyna magaalada Jowhar xoog ayay ku qabsadeen. Waxay sheegeen inaysan Puntland weerari doonin, haddana 2 bil ka hor ayay ciidan ay ku saareen laga soo cayriyay Puntland ka dib markii dadkii deegaanku isabaabuleen. Haddaba kooxo diin sheeganaya oo waxaa oo beena sheegay side loo rumeysan karaa inay rabaan inay heshiis la galaan dawlada KMG ah? Jawaabtu waa sahlan tahay, oo somalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa; ‘mar idage allaha dago, mar labaad idagase annigaa isdagay’. Waxaa shaki ku jirin in ujeedada maxkamadaha Muqdishu oo xaqiiqdii ah qabiil huwan shaar diimeed inay tahay inay wadanka oo dhan gobol gobol u qabsadaan ka diba dawlad ku dhawaaqaan intaas ka horna ay dadka somalida ku mashquuliyaan heshiis been ah oo aysan habba yaraatee aysan ku talo jirin inay hirgaliyaan. Dawlada Somaliya ayaa hadda laga sugayaa inay la yimaadaan qorshe cusub oo looga hortagayo kooxdaan diinta alle ku qaraabayana oo Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga oo mar heshiis la ahaa ku tilmaaamay horar Muqdishu ka soo yaacay. Mudugonline.com
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ME, I have never subscribed to the view of some here that this ICU presents a new paradigm shift. Mogadishu in my opinion was never a tough nut to crack and it was a matter of time before some clan took over. The ICU is a union of clans with some special interest groups. However I belive they have made some major errors, and have given the TFG the support it needed from some quarters, A/Qaybdeed and now Hiiraale are just an example. For example is Hiiraale defeate, now? As for Xasan Turki and his rashness, the man is wanted in Ethiopia... Its a strategic developmetn this ICU, but in the long run it makes the job of the TFG esier, be it clan threats felt at home or the ever popular 'terorisam' card abroad... ME, we have also been here before, in 1993 in what is now Puntland and in 1996 in Gedo. Both times the rash actions of the likes of Turki and Inda Cade brought the house down.. It seems history is repeating itself but this time on a much bigger scale.