^You have not brought much, other than self deception, and load of rubbish. Any free thinking would see that FARMAAJO made a big mistake this time, big blunder, and who is defending this? but from you brought here shown only your hypocrisy. Ethiopia is stronger than SOMALIA, currently , more sophisticated, and trying to extinguish SOMALI people hope, the same one you as an agent of Ethiopia , and they using you.. I repeat, You need help.

^^My thinking exactly, The delusional SNM boys always come up with this line, "we are better, we are more educated, the SOMALI guys from Mogadishu,are corrupted, stooges, don't have policy, we are more democratic, they don;t know what they are doing?", I would understand people isolated in SL like North Korea would buy, but would the free people who live in diaspora buy this shit! it is cult, seriously Secessionist should ask themselves,d there is a only country recognized,and has direct access to UN, and this UN agenty, ICAO , forget about Mogadishu, why would ICAO entertain non existent state?

THanks Galbeedi,

^Oodweyne, Afkaaga iyo dhegehaagu ma ismaqlaan, are you not the one always celebrating the misery of SOMALIS, just for cheap political goal, and recognition that will never come. It is bizarre how you disguise yourself with lengthy writings, to compensate your shortcoming and anger and hatred to certain communities which is very obvious , from your Long essays, that carry little weight. The somalis problem is collective, and will only be better with united , I don't wish bad for any SOMALIS, it hurts me when I see SOMALIS being hunted down everywhere, by Ethiopians, Kenyans, and evil radicals, but the elephant in the room is your leaders, like many others in SOMALIA, are working for SOMALI enemies,and part of the problem. I don't celebrate like, and come here saying BAGGA, anagaba sidaas banaloo galey, Waa gunimo, iyo meel hoose, SUBXAAN. And more bizarrely, you and those who are happy to serve Ethiopians, wish everyone to join you at the bottom, else why you write many topics about the sad situation of QALBI DHAQAX, which was not new to us, how many hd SL handed over? how many did Puntland? Have you ever mentioned it? Saxb, please attend trauma healing sessions, you are angry at certain community, and you can do nothing to them, they are here to stay. Marka habaarna wax kuyeeli maysid, markii ladaaglamayana waa carartey oo UK dabada la gashay.

What a loser, should have been deported years ago. Bad name for Somalis

Of course Kenya/Ethiopia will try to crash those who resist, where in Sl they don't need to, as they obediently serve Ethiopians.

It is a joke

God bless Turkey, it is a true genuine friend of SOMALIS. Turkey,We owe you a debt of gratitude for all you have done! Thank you.

^Thanks for the link. Long time ago I came to conclusion, Federalism is not right, and who came up with was either misinformed, imposed on the top, or could not get alternative SOMALIS agree on, that time, because of the pain and trauma, of the civil war, or witnessed bad unitary State. Like the guy who is trying to defend the Federalism, and yet can come up with no reason why it is good, or how will it build a strong Federal state, people who want Federalism can be grouped into No clue, Have no idea what Federalism is Have hidden agenda, want to break the country apart have a clan agenda(Sidan bay noogu badisaa) Working with SOMALIS enemies, to weaken SOMALIA And then those who had seen a bad central government, dictatorship, and afraid choosing a unitary system will lead to dictatorship and abuse. with this fear, can we be happy and accept a very weak Federalism State? forge ahead for the unknown, The group can be talked to and shown with extra care, a strong systems , a democratic state, that looks after all citizens can be achieved. The alternative of strong unitary SOMALI state, with regions elect their leaders, is crap federalism, weak government, mini states, confusions, identity crisis, massive bureaucracy and red tape, Too many fat cats running around, If you ever drived from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, on that highway, you will notice, the road itself change once you cross the border from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, signs, rules, the street lights, everything change, and they can afford. The police, the license, It is bureaucracy nightmare. Can Somalis afford this many mini States, Many leaders fattening themselves on the meagre SOMALI resource? and this is just the tip of the iceberg. About 10 years ago, I was working in India, at my hotel, I had a discussion with hotel manager and he told me one of the biggest hostage that is holding India back is many states, too much bureaucracy, different tariffs between states, licence plates. Else, different laws, India would be like China, or stronger. As SOMALI with no bias, and thinking what can be good for SOMALIS and SOMALIA and make somalia great again, FEDERALISM is not the answer. So before we sleep walk into minefield, let us think, THINK, and think of constructive options, positive way of getting rid off it. Many countries, including Ethiopia are facing nightmares because of federalism, and either will break apart, or get rid off it. http://hornaffairs.com/2017/06/10/challenges-ethiopias-federalism/ Another article to read, for SULDAANKA, Australia , respected Statesman, Bob Hawke, on Federalism https://theconversation.com/heed-hawkes-call-australian-federalism-is-an-idea-whose-time-has-ended-71001

^Thanks for the link. Long time ago I came to conclusion, Federalism is not right, and who came up with was either misinformed, imposed on the top, or could not get alternative SOMALIS agree on, that time, because of the pain and trauma, of the civil war Like the guy who is trying to defend the Federalism, and yet can come up with no reason why it is good, or how will it build a strong Federal state, people who want Federalism can be grouped into No clue, Have no idea what Federalism is Have hidden agenda, want to break the country apart have a clan agenda(Sidan bay noogu badisaa) Working with SOMALIS enemies, to weaken SOMALIA And then those who had seen a bad central government, dictatorship, and afraid choosing a unitary system will lead to dictatorship and abuse. with this fear, can we be happy and accept a very weak Federalism State? The group can be talked to and shown with extra care, a strong systems , a democratic state, that looks after all citizens can be achieved. The alternative of strong central SOMALI state, with regions elect their leaders, is crap federalism, weak government, mini states, confusions, identity crisis, massive bureaucracy and red tape, Too many fat cats running around,(If you ever drived from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, on that highway, you will notice, the road itself change once you cross the border from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, signs, rules, the street lights, everything change, and they can afford. The police, the license, It is bureaucracy nightmare. Can Somalis afford this many mini States, Many leaders fattening themselves on the meagre SOMALI resource? About 10 years ago, I was working in India, at my hotel, I had a discussion with hotel manager and he told me one of the biggest hostage that is holding India back is many states, too much bureaucracy, different tariffs between states, licence plates. Else, different laws, India would be like China, or stronger. As SOMALI with no bias, and thinking what can be good for SOMALIS and SOMALIA and make somalia great again, FEDERALISM is not the answer. So before we sleep walk into minefield,, let us think, THINK, and think of constructive options, positive way of getting rid off it. Another article to read, for SULDAANKA, Australia , which has a strong effective federalism, and yet there are issues between states all the time, Bob Hawke, at 87, seeing what is only great for Australia, https://theconversation.com/heed-hawkes-call-australian-federalism-is-an-idea-whose-time-has-ended-71001

^Thanks for the link. Long time ago I came to conclusion, Federalism is not right, and who came up with was either misinformed, imposed on the top, or could not get alternative SOMALIS agree on, that time, because of the pain and trauma, of the civil war Like the guy who is trying to defend the Federalism, and yet can come up with no reason why it is good, or how will it build a strong Federal state, people who want Federalism can be grouped into No clue, Have no idea what Federalism is Have hidden agenda, want to break the country apart have a clan agenda(Sidan bay noogu badisaa) Working with SOMALIS enemies, to weaken SOMALIA And then those who had seen a bad central government, dictatorship, and afraid choosing a unitary system will lead to dictatorship and abuse. with this fear, can we be happy and accept a very weak Federalism State? The group can be talked to and shown with extra care, a strong systems , a democratic state, that looks after all citizens can be achieved. The alternative of strong central SOMALI state, with regions elect their leaders, is crap federalism, weak government, mini states, confusions, identity crisis, massive bureaucracy and red tape, Too many fat cats running around,(If you ever drived from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, on that highway, you will notice, the road itself change once you cross the border from DUBAI to ABU DHABI, signs, rules, the street lights, everything change, and they can afford. The police, the license, It is bureaucracy nightmare. Can Somalis afford this many mini States, Many leaders fattening themselves on the meagre SOMALI resource? About 10 years ago, I was working in India, at my hotel, I had a discussion with hotel manager and he told me one of the biggest hostage that is holding India back is many states, too much bureaucracy, different tariffs between states, licence plates. Else, different laws, India would be like China, or stronger. As SOMALI with no bias, and thinking what can be good for SOMALIS and SOMALIA and make somalia great again, FEDERALISM is not the answer. So before we sleep walk, let us think, THINK, and think of constructive options, positive way of getting rid off it, before we sleep walk into minefield. Another article to read, for SULDAANKA, Australia , which has a strong effective federalism, and yet there are issues between states all the time, and at one of the great leaders and statesman of that country, Bob Hawke, at 87, seeing what is only great for Australia, https://theconversation.com/heed-hawkes-call-australian-federalism-is-an-idea-whose-time-has-ended-71001

Can SLers work in Djibouti government, as public servants ? In Mogadishu,the difference is they are citizens. We will see meesha ay ka dhacdo, inta isolation will work.

Whoever organised this, great work

Fawsia , Eebe ha dhowro, Run badan bay ka hadashey, Waxa yaabka ah Hadalka ONLF xitaa Farmaajo jawaabtaas oo kale waa waayey. Anyway Suldaanka, There is an issue she mentioned, and many diehard SLers ignore, and walaahi It is as she says, the number of SLers coming to Mogadishu, and are in public servants, is very high. And mostly highly talented, young and educated from Hargaisa, Awdal, Amoud University, Imagine more progress in Mogadishu, and South, if you failing to employ attract, and keep? what will be the future outcome? The worst brain drain, Marka yaa la go'i?

Federalism is the worse kind of government for SOMALIA, it will only extend and bring more misery, conflict, confusion, and eventually break the country into tiny tribal fiefdoms controlled by Ethiopia. Who came up with this SH!T! And this is just the beginning.

Agree guys, Somalis and those who bought for the independence, and starting building the nation, if they see what is happening today would roll in grave! What a shame The bizarre thing is also so those who accept this low, and already where this low place, will fight or celebrate , smile once they see others fall, lilke Farmaajo. Dadku in ay gun wada noqdaan bay rabaan, kuwaasa ba ka khatarsan TIgreega

I think to believe that every social problem,and shortcoming in the SOMALI regions, whether is SL or SOUTH is because of Late dictator, that is extremely biased view. when your leaders fail you, and deliver nothing and incompetence becomes the norm, then only there is only one person they keep blaming, the late dictator, and the citizens should not buy it. when Habar kasta ogtahay waxyeelada KHAADKA , I am very surprised why atleast SL can not come up with policy, a law to prohibit its use? even they can't fully enforce that law. whey not put heavy taxation? as deterrent. why? why Putland can not stop it, two reasons I think, of, Number of the leaders are compromised, and they are themselves addicts, and or scared of their leaders in Ethiopia.

^It does not matter, as long as you do it the proper way, and not try to sell the bogus 97% referendum. Internationally monitored Referendum, just like Kurds, just like South Sudan, that is provided Mogadishu allows it. and you have legitimate reason. I doubt SL has a legitimate reason.

Paper on Khat prohibition in SOMALIA in 1980s http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream/2307/1007/5/23_A.%20M.%20AHMED%20-%20Aftermaths%20of%20khat%20prohibition%20in%20Somalia.pdf Another study oy KHat prohibition in SOMALIA, it has been done before, and it can be done again if there is a will. Experience in the control of khat-chewing in Somalia. Elmi AS1, Ahmed YH, Samatar MS. Author information Abstract The chewing of the leaves of the plant called khat (Catha edulis Forsk) is a common habit in some countries of East Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Khat-chewing has a stimulating effect on the central nervous system, which is the reason for the widespread abuse of this plant. From the mid-1960s to the early 1980s, khat-chewing spread from the limited area of the north-western part of Somalia to the whole country, assuming epidemic proportions. Khat-chewing was recognized as a real national problem with adverse consequences for the health and socio-economic development of the country. A law prohibiting the use, importation, cultivation and trade of khat was enacted in 1983, and it has been strongly enforced by a comprehensive national programme that has mobilized the whole country to achieve its objectives. Committees to co-ordinate action on khat control were established at the national, regional and local levels. An information and education campaign through the use of the mass media has been carried out to support the national programme. After the successes achieved in the enforcement of the prohibition law, the national authorities, hampered by a shortage of financial resources, have had major difficulties in providing farmers with adequate compensation for damage caused to them by the destruction of khat plantations. Difficulties were also experienced in coping with the unemployment of those who were involved in the khat business and in establishing the recreational facilities needed to provide healthy social alternatives to khat-chewing sessions. These difficulties have only been partly solved.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2896525

Khat is social ill, and major hazard, and contribute alot of bad effects. From time waste, to health issues, social issues, any nation who has any government, the role is to see the social problem and address, large chuck of SOMALIS are mostly addicts, and their leaders are addicts,and can not come up with Solution. Leaders are compromised! However, when society broke down after 1980s, and Somaliland became a military occupied territory, there was shift in those who use khat to kill time. Hence it is now spiralled out of control and became a 24 hour fix Every major problem in North is not because of the late Dictator?, when will your people stop hearsay and take responsibilities on your own hands, and address your problems, do you know the late Dictator effectively banned KHat in 1980s? apart from few smugglers, and successfully stopped and burned all local farms? And even then the number of people who chew Khat was not even as big as 20% of current use. It is a major epidemic now

Hope they succeed, and leave the crazy arabs. Kurdish have legitimate reasons and want genuine referendum SL should take a note, this is how you do it,, not bogus 97% bogus Referendum

Guys, you sum it up,nothing happens without TPLF, and they are playing high level game. I had long discussion with my OROMO friend, who is very fluent in SOMALI, he told me Oromos understand and expected this game, it is simple strategy of SOMALIS vs OROMOS,and Tigrey to rule. The Tigrey is shitting their pants after they saw the OROMO, giant waking up, and to stop SOMALI lagu jeheen. Tigrey are very smart, and will try to survive by any means. AGAIN ,somalis and Oromos should not fall into this trap.

I tell you, Gabre is extremely happy and maybe the one orchestrated this, for once it extinguishes any hope and light SOMALIS had on Farmaajo. Regional States has been doing for years and noone spoke, because people knew they are servants Former leaders even if they did, it would not make the news, but for Farmaajo is different, Ethiopia is playing game of Chess, Somalis are busy with checkers, they want to show to the SOMALI people that Farmaajo is no different from State leaders.

Extremely sad and dark day for SOMALIA,this is a new low. The regional states has been doing for years, Puntland handed over 100s, so is SL, < at one point, SL handed over an elderly lady who at some point supported ONLF, Tough times for to be ONLF, hunted by shabab and ALL other SOMALIS who serve Ethiopia

yeah a lot of angry comments, but truth hurts.