Can someone tell Governor Faroole to get his tongue out from Zenawi's backside? If he wants a showdown with other Somali stakeholders then he should head to Mogadishu!!

^^ America don't have clan problems and tribalism, we do!!

raula;831203 wrote: Nice. We'll leave Fracking & Oil & et cetera exploration to reer puntland lol...OK OK its a joke..don't go on attack. Dabrow ..wa xagee melahaasi? We have plenty of gas in our shores, Puntlanders can keep their oil.

^^

^ InshaAllah!

^ We have about 20k square miles of arable land, we probably only utilise less than 10%.

Stop trolling @ KK.

^ Lol

Xaaji Xunjuf;830155 wrote: ^^ One man one vote let the people decide their leader as long as there is a strong united government for the people by the people. This thread has left me confused, is XX supporting a democratic decentralized unitary state of 18 regions of Somalia from Ras Kamboni to Loya Ado?

I miss Somalina, this place is poorer without her!

xiimaaya;830383 wrote: Who cares what faroole thinks.. Somalia is much bigger then that as far as we are concerned he is spoiler and will be dealt as such... Lol

I hope good heads prevail and this dispute is solved peacefully in a court of law, Somalis cannot afford another burning city in it's territories!

We Somalis are a suspicious bunch, there is a lot clan mistrust that we need to get rid off if we are to prosper. I hope they should drop that 2.5 rule on Maamul Goboleed and we go back to 18 regions governorship. Dr Faroole, Governor of Nugaal sounds perfect to me.

Ducadaada Allaha hanoo aqbalo, hooyo. Amin!! @ AlphaBlondy, stop taking mind altering herbs, saxib.

Garnaqsi;828307 wrote: That wasn't the point. I was illustrating how requiring one to suspend judgement on whether God exists isn't practical. It's because of this impracticality and similar ones that we have invented the philosophic devices that I've mentioned. You completely ignored this and are now claiming that atheist's stance is one posited on belief. Bertrand Russell was one of the most influential atheists in the 20s century, and to describe his position -- as illustrated by the teapot analogy -- as one based on 'belief' is plainly ridiculous. I know you also suffer from external pride, what I am saying is you take pride of accomplishment that are done by others, especially those whom you feel can defend your position best. I have yet to see an argument in which you have put your own world view or slant...you seem to be hiding behind others, what is it that you stand for, in your own words please.? I know what Bertrand Russel [your priest] stands for.." In this godless universe, we shall becomes gods" Simple questions. What is belief according to you? When you say you are an atheist what do you mean? P.s We could continue later, I need to go.

Do we really need to people to live too long?, in an age of austerity, limited finances, lack of jobs, expensive medi-care, reduced pension payments and social security...ok, if they want to survive in poverty and isolation then it's their call.

If I may get back to the issue, it seem me and you are going in circles here. Given that I accept your atheist position and you accept my theist position... i.e I am not here to prove the existence God, nor I am asking you to disprove the existence God, then the argument of whom the burden of proof lies with or Russells teapot arguement becomes redundant! On Occam's razor [if I remember correctly] my understanding of this logic is, in a situations of two explanation with regards to a proposition that are similar i.e one complex and another simple....Occam asks us to take the simple argurment with least assumptions. I dont know how it applies on our situation here when me and you are taking two opposite propositions.

Garnaqsi;828287 wrote: (I only embed in the links because I don't assume much of the people on this board, rightly it seems). Ah, the irony...last time I used a wiki link you mocked me and Raamsade was not best pleased, hence my caution. I object to your arrogant assumptions, it just makes you sound anal and pretentious. I did hint to you earlier on this thread about this tendency of yours!:eek:

Garnaqsi;828286 wrote: No doubt there were no takers! I think the comment below answers you perfect well! The question being... Garnaqsi;828286 wrote: What exactly in our previous discussions show that I don't understand the basics of belief? What is it about faith that I'm apparently yet to comprehend? A tenner says he will not come up with any examples or quotes from our previous discussions. Any takers? You are confusing belief [internal reality] and religious rituals/dogmas. What I was implying was that you don't have to belong to a religion in order to hold a belief. So when I say you hold a belief, I am not choosing a religious /way of life for you but merely stating your internal reality, which is a belief in disbelief of Divine existence.

xiinfaniin;828234 wrote: Mario B, is injecting a regional dimension where non exist. Whoever denied it supplied it.

Garnaqsi;827843 wrote: I've no idea what you're getting at here. You are confusing belief [internal reality] and religious rituals/ organisations. What I was implying was that you don't have to belong to a religion in order to hold a belief. So when I say you hold a belief, I am not choosing a religious /way of life for you but merely stating your internal reality, which is a belief in disbelief of Divine existence. P.s Last time I used wikipedia I got lambasted by one of your fellow atheist, can we have some consistence here?, please!

^^ I don't understand why Puntlanders hate Arman, if I am not mistaken he seems to do a good job of defending the discreted TFG in Washington circles.

It's good to see old Anglo-saxon and Spanish imperialism played out in the 21st century. May the best man/woman win.

I think Obama is the least worst option. Nin Yaaban, voting should never be taken away unless you commit treason, even definition of treason will be problematic.

President Silanyo who inherited lackluster relations with Djibouti has in the span of two years in office managed to establish very conducive and cordial diplomatic relations which have created commercial opportunities for all. --------- What commercial opportunities? The road from Loya Ado to Borama takes 24 hours to traverse. :confused: Given the 200 miles distance!