^Lol, the sloganeering Uchi, will say "Puntland,Puntland...take it or leave it".

Duke, some people don't want for Somalia to have a central government [ I include SL], that's why they will every so often embarrass us on the International stage! We are a people without shame.

There would have been no London conference if it wasn't for the Turkish PM, our politics would have been forever sub-contracted to Meles Zenawis of this world. Whatever her interest are, I will forever hold affection for that nation that raised 350m dollars last Ramadhan. I believe their humanitarian model is one that should be copied by other well intetioned people everywhere!!

Fiqikhayre;834771 wrote: Moonlight Turkey is taking sides, that's what you don't seem to get! And what is the proof for your wantom statement, do people just say whatever prejudicial feeling they have on an issue without backing it with at least some facts!!

Abtiigis, have you just exposed your friends? cause you never know, the missus could be a regular visitor to this forum and now she will be able to connect the dots? P.s An article on your take regarding Pl and Galgaduug rejection of Instabul conference is required from you saxib!

Lol, you lot can't handle the truth.

That's why we need the central government so that we can put to bed this regional encroachments. My advice to the parties concern is to leave open the door for dialogue at all times. Somalia cannot afford regional cold wars.

kingofkings;826276 wrote: folks we were warned. we did not listen. Only Sh. Sharif anticipated the conflict that loomed ahead, when he said: “The debate could be what type of federal system.” Sh Sharif is starting to sound like an accomplished politician.

Yunis;826915 wrote: From 4.5 to clan federalism, the political structure of somalia today, is such that for one to take part you have to appeal a very simplistic kinship based audience to be consider viable statesman , and the hell with the rest of Somali stake-holders. It's the reality, of today that the scramble is on, of drawn out village borders with state flags - to the ultimate prize of clan federalism system of two provinces comes with real authority. The proff's message is the antitheses to that, he is saying that will not prevail and will only cause more hostility and renew battles ahead. Good points. It seem the Professor and Faroole are on the same side, but as you might have guessed they are politically poles apart! This debates calls for thesis, anti-thesis and then synthesis. We can all be Hegelians in the next few months,

This is the nonsense our friend "Somalia" espouse. Puntland wants to use the federal constitution so it can solidify it's land, political and resource grab. The Puntland constitution was one of the most disgraceful things to come out from from Somalia in the recent times. What Puntland wants is to use the cloak of federalism so it can behave like a sovereign state and when it is taken to task it can say well that is Federalism my friend. USA federal constitution gives states three most important powers, Taxation, Judicial and Policing...Puntland wants to define who it's citizens are?:confused:

So we have gone to Addis Ababa to copy this failed system!!

^^I agree the wrong team won but I blame Bayern for their complacency.

El Punto, have you read the Puntland constitution? Or could you just tell us what powers they would like to retain and then we can discuss whether it's wise or not!

He is the west's dictator, the minute he starts going against their interest they will produce all those dossiers that list all crimes he has commited since he came to power and you will see him at the Hague.

burahadeer;832004 wrote: haha I like how y'll good at maneuvering out situations:D:D:D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erigavo

burahadeer;832001 wrote: I am oppressed,want to leave and yet claiming otha people's lands doesn't go together. You proved those somalilanders right yet again That land belongs to all Somalis, that's why we reject your fictious border, this argurment cuts both way!

burahadeer;831996 wrote: ^ waad degdegtay, Already responded this in your tune You did, the SNM project was always about saving the triangle towns anything else was going to be a bonus.

MoonLight1;831993 wrote: then let khatumo go, let maakhir go, and let awdal state go. you wouldn't would you. so remember, if somalia is divisible then you are divisible. ^^ That's too much logic for our triangle brethrens, wait till he pulls out the "what about the colonial border" line.

Yunis;831988 wrote: finally a rich Somali going on shopping spree like a rich Arab :cool: And this before the petrol dollars start rolling in.

He he he, I want Chelsea to win so Spurs misses out on CL football. :cool: Yep, you guessed it right, I'm a gooner.

Warya Nuune this is geel jire thinking and it's doing Islam disservice, your wife sharing erotic moments in the privacy of your room/space is all healthy and permissable in Islam, "dhaqanka yaan na looga cayaarin" is just contrived mambo jambo.

Can someone tell this neo-con fool that the UN is already in Somalia in the form of AU.

^^

nuune;831953 wrote: If she does that in front of her husband, he will erotically label or call her to be heekaleey from the past, yaa ku barey waxan would be his first reaction, and yaad ku niikin jirtey ama u niikin jirtey would be his main question. Nuune, that is puritanical way of thinking, not every girl that can shake her booty like Shakira is some whore. Also Islam that I know is based on having good opinion of people.

walaalkis;831909 wrote: Are you kidding me this war in Somalia was never intended to be complete in few years more like many many years. These African troops Need to feed thier wives and children . What a better way to come to Somalia funded by USA and European Union. This helps their country's economy. Yeah, I know that...but it doesnt mean we can't fund our war ourselves, using our own men and women, fighting for our interest and survival. We have a big room to manouver if we are creative enough. We are also the ones who caused the mess, it can only be fair that we are the ones to fix what we broke ourselves in the end. As for the rizk that the Ugandas and co are reaping...well God works in a mysterious way.