^^and what does a Canadian know about football? thank you for your pity, SG picked the CL trophy and Lamps took the Prem. IF you were to score a player on what he has won - Like 187 said SG has been an England player far longer than Lamps and hes younger (what does that tell you) Roll of Honours SG - CL, Eufa Cup, FA Cup, Carling Cup, Eufa Super Cup (twice) FL - Carling Cup & Prem ps how many different positions can Lamps play in and succeed? 187, true Lauren is highly underated, imagine if he was English :eek: Gareth Barry - Underated James Beattie - way overated

^^Saxib, long time LAmpard is a very good player but we both know Stevie G is a much better footballer. Frank is a one dimensional player, if he cant shoot he will pass to his right (just watch him). He score a fair few goals yes and he is an influencial player for Chelsea. Now, Stevie G is a 'footballer' who has played in many positions, left, right, centre mid, striker, right back (CL final 2nd half) i dont see Frank doing that. He only just shaded the votes for the 2nd best player last year. Can you see Frank doing what Gerrard did in the CL final? Your just anti Liverpool As for Rio, he a decent defender yes, but he is overated. Put him against your skillful/strong players and hes alover the place. Yakubu is a good example. So who is your overated and underated players? Gardner (bolton) - underated

WHAT A YEAR! In terms of personal, family & work 6 new borns have joined the family (on all sides)this year (including one of my own ) New life in a new country The incidents in London (worked within very close proximity) Work - increased 10 fold The moving process/leaving work/birth of baby/selling car all came at the same time plus Liverpool winning the Champions League

Frank Lampard (aka Fat Frank)- Overated Rio ( i look like a girl) Ferdinand - Overated Peter (bean pole) Crouch - Overated Titus (the lump) Bramble - How the *&^% did he make it? :mad: Steve (Irish Warrior) Finnan - Underated

^^it was a bad decision from the linesman, if Van P squared it for Henry to score then that would have been offside, but Van P was 2 yards on side, but hey Chelsea seam to be getting alot of luck on their side lately. Lpool should be world club champions, we got a weak ref and some poor finishing Watch what we do to Newcastle (i have a feeling Owen will bag a goal, or two, or three :rolleyes: )

What does wishing one a Merry Christmas mean for a Muslim? It would be interesting to read a hadeeth/ayat regarding this matter. This will inform as to the level of respect one should give to other religious celebrations. The rest is irrelevant

"I went to Zimbabwe...I know how white people feel in America now, relaxed! Cause when I heard the police car I knew they weren't coming after me!" There's a thin line between to laugh with and to laugh at." "It's been a struggle for me because I had a chance to be white and refused" A legend who paved the way for many of todays artists. Saturday Night Live which was later done by Eddie Murphy was a hit, then there was Def Comedy Jam with the likes of Chris Rock, Chris Tucker, JAmie Fox, Steve Harvey, Bernie Mac, Cedric the Entertainer all doing the Pryor thing. Now you have David Chappell!!!

quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Red sea: Also, did you know that Ambassador Hotel is owned by Burcawi too? Yep, Burcawis are every where these days. Salamu Calaykum. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes you "budh" wielding hooligans have taken over our cities . I think its time we set up shop in Burco and reverse the trend, Your lil tulo could use some of that Xargeisawii ingenuity Lander, budhka hada waalaga iilbaxaye, dollarkaa lasitaa you are more than welcome to set up shop in Burco, as soon as you overcome your misconcieved 'baqdin' of our great 'magaalo', in Burco we say Hargaisawis only venture 5km out of town

Saudi Arabia's Al Ittihad edged out Ahly in the first game of Fifa's Club World Championship in Tokyo - ending the Egyptians' 55-game unbeaten run. Al Ittihad 1-0 Ahly Mohammed Noor scores the only goal of the game Saudi Arabia's Al Ittihad edged out Ahly in the first game of Fifa's Club World Championship in Tokyo - ending the Egyptians' 55-game unbeaten run. Mohammed Noor capitalised on an error by keeper Essam El Hadary in the 78th minute to book their semi-final place. El Hadary flapped at a cross from right-back Ahmed Al Dosari, leaving captain Noor the simplest of finishes. Ittihad dominated in the freezing conditions, with El Hadary making a smart stop from Mohammed Kallon. It ends a remarkable run for African champions Ahly, who had been undefeated in all competitions since July 2004. Asian champions Ittihad's win came despite having three Brazilian players thrown out of the competition the previous day after a Fifa investigation found they were not officially registered with the club. The Jeddah-based ( ) side will now meet Sao Paulo in the semi-finals in Tokyo on Wednesday. Sydney FC meet Costa Rica's Deportivo Saprissa on Monday - with European champions Liverpool awaiting the winners of that game in the semi-finals. ------------------------------------------------ The mighty mighty Reds are in action on Thursday! Imagine Al Ittihad vs Liverpool, now that would be :cool: But i expect Sau Paolo vs Liverpool final!

Well this was a summit i was rather looking forward to and it didnt fail to deliver when it came to speaches. It looked and sounded like all the leaders have a new stronger messgae for the West. The message was, we are United (or in the process of)against any kine of threat, aggression and instability which may arise in the future while at the same admitting the threat of extremism should be tackled. I just hope that for once something will be done and a small step towards a united ummah is better than no step at all no matter how much hipocracy one may think is occuring. Things are slowly brewing and tensions are rising across the world. When the *&^% hits the fan we have no choice but to rely on our 'leaders' to do whats necessary to preserve the Islamic name.

I have been ignoring clcking on this topic (dont know why) but its probably the most interesting on SOL right now. Congrats to Castro (odhey!) The holocoast is a significant event in modern times and should be commemorated. BUT, why is it commemorated to the extent of if not commemorating it will mean your anti-semetic? The capitalisation of the Jewish organisations of all the media within its grasp has contributed greatly to this perception. You have countries such GB who cannot wait to commemorate this event every year. Is it because GB actually helped Hitler into power and have a guilty concience? Hence also the latter events in Palestine? Callypso: the Holocaust was not with emphasis on the race of the victims, but as a cautionary tale: don't allow your government to distract you from real problems by presenting imaginary demons; don't let people act like sheep, going with the flock because that's the path of least resistance; don't let others think for you. These lessons are well-wasted on some whose hatred for the victims of the Holocaust clouds reason. Thats exactly what the Zionists are doing today ie manipulating events/people in order to obtain favouritism in fighting the 'enemy'-Muslims by using mass media.

^^go Brixton, how are the brothers in Brixto? Has the Brixton mosque expanded yet?

^^^now that would be a tasty encounter as all Liverpool fans are also Celtic fans and vise verse!

^^I continued to use the bruise tactics which got me up to 3rd but this resulted in all my players being suspended and injured, for two games my entire midfield were suspended :rolleyes: Rocko, have a look at the 'real' EPL table

^^the draw is next Friday 11am GMT

^^i said vaguely warya but 1990 was the first proper one I plan to be in Europe during the tourney (IA) so we can finally put to rest this oldies business. Come on out and Carbon-date this fossil called Castro. me too, plan to be in UK during the tourny, cant stand these Arabs who are simply not interested in the game :rolleyes: Saudi Arabia vs Tunisia will be good, whoever wins my be in a good position to progress.

lol@nuune and castro, you guys must be the oldies here first world cup i watched was Italia 1990 (vaguely remember Mexico 1986) Euro 1988 was the first tourny i witnessed (gullit, van basten and rikaard) Australia will play brazil - how was that taken down under Rocko? Ivory will come through the group Nuune, i can categoricly say Sweden wil not win!!!

Some great games to come, World Cup fever!!!!! GROUP A Germany Costa Rica Poland Ecuador GROUP B England Paraguay Trinidad & Tobago Sweden GROUP C Argentina Ivory Coast Serbia & Montenegro Holland GROUP D Mexico Iran Angola Portugal GROUP E Italy Ghana USA Czech Republic GROUP F Brazil Croatia Australia Japan GROUP G France Switzerland South Korea Togo GROUP H Spain Ukraine Tunisia Saudi Arabia

already some big first games,,,, Argentina vs Ivory Coast Italy vs Ghana ("who beat Somalia 7-0 in qualifying" - TV Pundit)

I know u was joking man West Connection? (does a Crip walk) :cool: Draw is about to start, i will post the groups on here soon, but you can also check bbc.co.uk website for updates ps you dont need that signature

One iyo Waraabe Kinda Rivals..Paki-India kinda Rivals...Somalia iyo Somaliland I can understand the first two but the third one is false ps what is your signature about? hiphop kids ey :rolleyes: i wish this draw would start :mad:

Not to concerned about the topic apart from this maybe even waer that Arabic white dress Is that what you know it as JB? a white dress? :confused: Ever heard of Khamiis or Thowb?

^^u cant hate on Brazil and have Argentina as your favourites?? I was watching the West Asian Games this week (in Doha, Qatar) and guess they have as a studio panel? Pele and Maradona I also saw Pele singing for maradona on a TV show in Argentina (i think it was Maradona's TV show) Well in just over 1 hrs time, when all the teams/groups are drawn and we all know whos playing who, World Cup Fever will strike (except in USA )

By Hannah Hennessy In Dubai In Dubai, noisy construction work is never far away It is the city of superlatives; a man-made Disney-style creation in the desert, where there's seemingly no such thing as no can do. Why shouldn't Dubai be home to the Middle East's first indoor ski resort, the world's tallest building, a seven-star hotel in the shape of a giant sail and its first underwater hotel? These projects - and many more, drizzled by Dubai's voracious public relations industry with epithets such as biggest, best and longest - have either already been built or are under construction in this Arabian kingdom. Thirty years ago, Dubai was a small fishing port where people came to dive for pearls or trade gold. Now it is one of the fastest-growing cities in the world. Last year, Dubai's economy grew by almost 17%, four times faster than that of the United States and twice as fast as China's. Capital gains So, what is the secret of Dubai's Midas touch? Traffic is heavy in Dubai, even at night Most obviously, it's black gold. It has benefited from the biggest boom in oil prices in a generation. The increase in fuel prices has fuelled a construction frenzy, the like of which most countries in the world have never seen. Whereas many places have benefited from the growing appetite for oil, nowhere has done so quite like Dubai. "There's masses of liquidity and it's a tax free environment," explains Brian Scudder of Oryx Real Estate, a company that provides luxury accommodation in areas of Dubai like The Palm, a manmade tree-shaped island in the ocean. "Dubai isn't hamstrung by the same bureaucratic processes that affect other places. "The mentality is very ambitious, there is little government intervention and although it's very cut-throat, it's very efficient in getting things done." Inflation threat In the last decade, thousands of people have moved to Dubai, drawn by its free market economy and the promise of year-round sunshine. Bigger and taller buildings are appearing everywhere It has become a regional hub for business as well as tourism, because it is regarded as a safe place for multinational companies to base themselves and be within striking distance of the rest of the Middle East. But this influx has put pressure on its infrastructure. One of the frequent complaints of its residents is that the city has grown too big too quickly. Residents say the roads are almost permanently clogged, and living in Dubai is like living in a giant construction site where cranes provide the backdrop to even the most luxurious hotels and where prices seem to be rising almost as fast as the buildings. He agrees that Dubai is unique in many ways, but the biggest risk facing it in the future is inflation, according to Damian Harrington, associate director of international commercial real estate firm CBRE. "It has built up an image of itself as a driving, ambitious centre, where everything is bigger and better than before and providing it is managed successfully, there's no reason why Dubai shouldn't continue this way," he says. Mr Harrington welcomes a move by authorities to call for a cap on rent rises of 15% a year, after some residents of Dubai have seen their rents rise by up to 50% in the last year alone. In November, the National Bank of Dubai said it expected inflation to reach a record 15% to 20% this year. Mr Harrington says this has hurt business morale. Sustainable growth But Mr Harrington nevertheless agrees with fellow real estate expert Mr Scudder that Dubai's future is bright. Both men say it will be several years before supply meets demand, which means the cranes will continue to shape the skyline of this booming city. And they believe that as long as entrepreneurs and authorities continue to manage the growth of the city properly, Dubai will boom, despite the grumblings of some of its residents. To this end, Mr Scudder disputes the notion that Dubai has failed to plan for its future. "People aren't really seeing the benefits that they are going to reap very soon," he says, adding that roads are being widened to cater for increased traffic, while the mass of cranes that pepper the horizon will disappear soon as construction moves away from the centre. He does not believe that the current building boom is unsustainable. "Dubai has been expanding continuously for 30 years. There has never been a crash here." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4506512.stm

The Japanese government has ordered an inquiry after stock market trading in a newly-listed company was thrown into chaos by a broker's typing error. Shares in J-Com fell to below their issue price after the broker at Mizuho Securities tried to sell 610,000 shares at 1 yen (0.47 pence; 0.8 cents) each. They had meant to sell one share for 610,000 yen (£2,893; $5,065). Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi said he did not want to see similar errors and called for new safety measures. Banking Minister Kaoru Yosano and cabinet secretary Shinzo Abe said the finance ministry was working with Mizuho and the Tokyo Stock Exchange (TSE) to draw up counter-measures to prevent similar future mishaps. Japan's Financial Services Agency, the country's financial watchdog, has started an investigation into the mistake and how to prevent a repeat. "In order to maintain the credibility of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, I very strongly want this issue to be resolved quickly," Kaoru Yosano said. 'Monumental error' Because of market rules, the mis-sold shares could not be bought for 1 yen, but may have been sold as low as 572,000 yen each. The order represented 41 times the number of outstanding shares of recruitment firm J-Com. Mizuho said the brokerage had repurchased the majority of the phantom shares it sold, but the error has so far caused it a loss of 27bn yen. It almost matches the group's net profit of 28.1bn yen for the financial year to March 2005. One of the firm's directors, Seijiro Takeshita, told the BBC: "This was initially a public offering listed issue on that day, meaning that obviously, the buybacks were extremely difficult to do, and for that reason it still is in a turbulent condition as we speak." The episode prompted a fall of 3.4% in shares of Mizuho's parent company. "It's a monumental trading error, but fortunately this is a large bank with deep reserves," said Jason Rogers, a credit analyst at Barclays Capital. 'Incomprehensible orders' Shares in J-Com, which recruits staff for telecoms businesses, rose immediately after making their debut on Thursday. However, they soon fell 100,000 yen to 572,000 yen - below their issue price of 610,000 yen - after the share sale order emerged. The shares subsequently recovered, closing at 772,000 yen. Takao Saga, a senior economist at Japan Securities Research Institute, said: "It's absurd that the exchange doesn't have any system to reject such incomprehensible orders." The incident resembles an erroneous share sale which marred the market debut of advertising giant Dentsu in 2001. Broking firm UBS mistakenly sold some 65,000 Dentsu shares, most of which Dentsu subsequently had to buy back. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4512962.stm