Xalanle, you are again avoiding the important questions fired at you (just like your like-minded traitors). Carry on, i just hope you are aware of the consequences of what your saying. Originally posted by Garaad Bari: quote: he guy is a xabashi flag waver. So long as the TFG iyo gaaladay laseexdaan are in power people's lives dont matter to him and his mates. Northerner the issue is not abt TFG or Xabashi,,,,, it is abt the shelling the guys in the video clip doing to somali cty, and those guys werent Xabashi they were somalis, infact the xabashis u are talking abt were the ones giving u shelter, food and water when u needed the most. DONT BE ABAAL LAAWE TO THE XABASHI. No thanks,,,,

May Allah s.w have mercy on his soul Insha Allah. Amiin and may your sister and family be able to cope well with such a tragic event.

^^Xalane What is the objective of the TFG?

Welcome Chemical I presume you work in the oil industry?

This happened at DXB this week resulting in huge delays,,,,,,,, Here

^^I always wondered how the rows are perfect then realised its the tiling :rolleyes:

A new age of radicalism Protests during George Bush's tour of Latin America show which way the wind is blowing. QUESTION: What is the one thing you would most like to see happen by this time next year? George Bush's "We Care" truncated tour of Latin America illustrates a process I fervently hope intensifies over the coming year. Everywhere Bush went he was met with large, angry protests, even in death-squad ridden Colombia, whose government he has pledged to provide with more military aid. In stark contrast, Venezuela's Hugo Chávez is thronged with affection throughout the continent and beyond. The inspiration of Chavez's Bolivarian revolution, combined with the bleeding out of US imperial arrogance in Iraq, is leading to a dramatic shift in world politics - the rise of a global counterforce to imperialism and neoliberalism. US power has peaked. As Bush's tour and the neocon fantasies about military action against Iran indicate, however, it will not go gently into that good night. But go it will and, I believe, the pace of its leaving will quicken over the next 12 months, creating new opportunities for radical politics, not least in Britain and the US itself. http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/george_galloway/2007/03/george_galloway.html

^^The guy is a xabashi flag waver. So long as the TFG iyo gaaladay laseexdaan are in power people's lives dont matter to him and his mates. They use the 'militants are hinding amongst civilians' to justify it.

Who has advocated for what exactly? Cambarro, look at what you started

A good idea. Manchester to Marakesh by train!

Suspicious about the article. But lets live and let live shall we. Placing a number of SOLers as leaders would be interesting indeed!

^^LoL, i'm not even thinking about that game. We are in the semis already. But who will we play? I want Valencia,,,,,,,,,,

I actually agree with Naden In case you have not been to Makkahul Mukarama is a very small city surrounded by mountains, access has been improved over the years and with bigger hotels there is more room for people to go and perform Hajj. My only contention is that those who may not be able to afford the big hotels may have nowhere else to go in a few years (but thats just speculating). ps what holy sites are under threat?

Originally posted by Taliban: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: What kind of sheikh is one without beards? :confused: lool Does a sheikh need a beard? Al Azhar graduates wear those hats ya Duke.

Duke Another hear no evil see no evil act you and your buddies are conducting here. ps the 'president' hides to go to the capital? i thought it was tamed and is in the control of the TFG troops iyo galaaday sookaxeesteen is that not what you keep repeating?

Saw the goals this morning. But Man Utd will be caught out by Roma!

WORLD CUP, GROUP D, JAMAICA West Indies 241-9 beat Pakistan 187 by 54 runs Its early days yet guys. Ciyaari wa galin dambe! Xamar, Canada yet to play,,,,

Roobleh, grab a Harun Yahya DVD.

what do you think of the xabashis raping the somalis?

Saxib i'm planning for hajj IA, i think now is a good time for umrah as its quiet time of year and you may actually get to touch the black stone. But remember dont push!

Changing essence of Makkah 3/10/2007 - Social - Article Ref: NT0703-3251 Number of comments: 30 Opinion Summary: Agree:9 Disagree:15 Neutral:6 By: Hassan M. Fattah New York Times* - MECCA, Saudi Arabia - Five times a day across the globe devout Muslims face this city in prayer, focused on a site where they believe Abraham built a temple to God. The spot is also the place Muslims are expected to visit at least once in their lives. Now as they make the pilgrimage clothed in simple white cotton wraps, they will see something other than the stark black cube known as the Kaaba, which is literally the center of the Muslim world. They will also see Starbucks. And Cartier and Tiffany. And H&M and Topshop. The Abraj al Bait Mall - one of the largest in Saudi Arabia, outfitted with flat-panel monitors with advertisements and announcements, neon lights, an amusement park ride, fast-food restaurants and a lingerie shop - has been built directly across from Islam's holiest site. Not everyone considers this progress. "Mecca is becoming like Las Vegas, and that is a disaster," said Ali al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, a Saudi opposition research organization. "It will have a disastrous effect on Muslims because going to Mecca will have no feeling. There is no charm anymore. All you see is glass and cement." The mall, which opened a week before the annual pilgrimage, called the hajj, in December, is the first phase in a $13 billion construction boom in Mecca that promises to change how this city, forbidden to everyone but Muslims, looks and feels. The Abraj al Bait housing and hotel complex, a 1.5-million-square-yard development that will include a towering hotel, has begun to redraw the skyline of this ancient religious city. When the project is completed in 2009, it will include the seventh tallest building in the world, its developers say, with a hospital, hotels and prayer halls. A public-announcement system pipes in prayers from the Grand Mosque across the way, and worshipers can join the masses simply by opening their draperies. In nearby Jabal Omar, an entire mountain is being flattened to make way for a huge hotel and high-rise complex. And elsewhere, cranes dot the skyline with up to 130 new high-rise towers planned for the area. "This is the end of Mecca," said Dr. Irfan Ahmed in London. He has formed the Islamic Heritage Foundation to try to preserve the Islamic history of Mecca, Medina, the second holiest city, and other important religious sites in Saudi Arabia. "Before, even in the days of the Ottomans, none of the buildings in Mecca towered higher than the Grand Mosque. Now these are much higher and more disrespectful." Money is certainly one of the motivators in the building boom. Every year, up to four million people descend on this city during the pilgrimage, while a stream continues to flow through here during the year, spending an average $2,000 to $3,000 to stay, eat and shop. Billboards along the way to Mecca remind investors of the potential earnings from owning an apartment here; some claim a 25 percent return on investment. Advertisements on Arab satellite television channels remind viewers that "you, too, can have the opportunity to enjoy this blessed view." Muhammad al-Abboud, a real estate agent, recounts tales of Pakistani businessmen plunking down $15 million to buy several apartments at a time. Saudi princes own entire floors. A three-bedroom apartment here runs about $3 million, Mr. Abboud said. One directly overlooking the Grand Mosque can reach $5 million. Critics of the development complain that the result is gated communities where worshipers can separate themselves from the crowds, thereby violating the spirit of the hajj, where all stand equal before God. "All of Mecca is a sanctuary," Mr. Abboud said. "So how could something like this not be snapped up?" But some groups say the building boom also has religious motives. They accuse the archconservative Salafi, who hold great sway in Saudi Arabia, of seeking to eliminate historic spots, fearing that these sites would become objects of worship themselves. Dr. Ahmed of London has cataloged the destruction of more than 300 separate antiquity sites, including cemeteries and mosques. He says the house where the Prophet Muhammad lived was razed and today a dilapidated library, with its windows and doors shuttered, stands in its place. "It is not respecting the Kaaba, not respecting the house of God or the environment of the sanctuary," Sami Angawi, a Saudi architect who wants to preserve Mecca's heritage, said of the development. "You are not supposed to even cut a tree in this city, so how could you blow up a mountain? The Islamic laws have been broken." Progress has exacted a heavy price in Mecca. More pilgrims than ever can come here, thanks to billions spent on tunnels and infrastructure to accommodate them. But in exchange, the city's once famed night market, where pilgrims brought their wares to sell, is gone. The Meccan homes and buildings that filled the area near the mosque were demolished in the 1970s to enlarge the mosque. The neighborhoods and families who lived near the mosque and welcomed pilgrims have long since moved away. Mecca has long been a commercial as well as a religious center, but increasingly global brands dominate here. Mr. Angawi, the Saudi architect, has led a lonely campaign within the kingdom to bring attention to the destruction of the historic sites. Dr. Ahmed has worked to lobby Asian and Arab governments to press the Saudis to stop such demolitions. And Mr. Ahmed, in Washington, has built a database of the historic spots now destroyed. Many Muslims inside and outside Saudi Arabia have remained silent about the issues, they say, fearing the loss of financing from Saudi Arabia for religious institutions and projects. Saudi officials say they have been painstakingly preserving the Islamic artifacts they find, and operate two small museums in Mecca. In all, they say, more than $19 billion has been spent on preserving the country's Muslim heritage. They dismiss their critics as cranks who have no following. Developers and real estate agents, meanwhile, say the construction makes room for even more Muslims to take part in the hajj, and therefore serves the greater good. That suggests that the changes are far from over. "Mecca has never been changed like it has now," Mr. Angawi said. "What you see now is only 10 percent of what's to come. What is coming is much, much worse." Hassan M. Fattah writing for The New York Times source

I choose to simply go by the following: Volume 7, Book 62, Number 128: Narrated Ibn 'Umar: The Prophet said, "All of you are guardians and are responsible for your wards. The ruler is a guardian and the man is a guardian of his family; the lady is a guardian and is responsible for her husband's house and his offspring; and so all of you are guardians and are responsible for your wards." Saxiix Bukhari Narrated 'Abdullah Allah's Apostle said, "Everyone of you is a guardian and is responsible for his charges. The ruler who has authority over people, is a guardian and is responsible for them, a man is a guardian of his family and is responsible for them; a woman is a guardian of her husband's house and children and is responsible for them; a slave ('Abu) is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it; so all of you are guardians and are responsible for your charges." Saxiix Bukhari Is it the 'responsibility' of the Muslim parents to protect their kid(s) from sins and the 'normalisation' thereof? Simple answer should be YES. How one chooses to do this and whether its the right way is a different question though.

Who elected him?

Was he hiding in bushes? Mise gaariga qaadku so raacey?