BoiBoi: By posting PM Gedi's letter dated the 6/10/05, is a bit hyprocritical wouldn't you say? BoiBoi, the object of exhibiting the letter dated 06.10.05 was not at all hypocritical. The letter was exhibited as an evidence, in order to demonstrate, albeit subtly, that it’s existence is testimony to the Prime Minister’s current disposition to write contradictory letters that may place him in a legal limbo. First, Mr. Geedi heroically intervenes the contractual agreement between a foreign entity and the internal administrative body of the Republic of Somalia. To be concerned with/and protect against the breaking of the Republic’s charters is one of the Prime-Minister’s national duties. However, by writing another letter that was disregardful of the Charter, which he was meant to uphold, was an awful mistake. As stipulated by the very article (44), the Prime-Minister, and even the President of the Republic, let alone a regional leader such as Cade, do not have the unanimous authority to sign international treaties without the Proposal of Council of Ministers and, most importantly, without the ratification of the Parliament of the Republic. See below: Article 44, paragraph 4 (a): "The President of the Republic of Somalia has the authority to sign International Treaties on the proposal of the Council of Ministers and upon ratification by the Parliament". The Parliament’s criteria for ratification should be inline with Article 67 of paragraph 1 of the Charter, which states that: Natural resources and environment protection, "The natural resources of the country such as the minerals, water, flora and fauna shall be public property and a law shall be enacted which defines the manner of exploitation for the common good". See also "The power of the Transitional Federal Government, Schedule I: paragraphs 1 (Foreign Affairs) & 9 (Natural resources)". Thus, Range-Resources’ evidence showing the Prime Minister’s permission is at best unbinding and worst outright illegal. Range Resources, knowing that they were dealing with a regional administration, has ignored to investigate the possible conflict between their presence and the Charter of the Republic of Somalia. They were capable, financially and legally, to be sure of the legality of their operations within the state of Puntland. They thus share with Cade, a careless willingness to operate outside the Law of the land. When I provided you a link to PM Gedi's letter dated the 02/11/05 you gave me this reply: quote: BoiBoi, these are not varified facts, mate. You have shown me a letter alleged to be from Geedi, whose e-mail address is Premiersom@wanainchi.com and whose formal address is Sarit Centre [big Grin] . What a combination. The letter's authenticity is not beyond doubt and the link you have provided is to Range Resources' website, thus one-sided. So what are you trying to say? What I am trying to say here is that even the letters of agreement or permission produced as evidence by Range Resources are one-sided. For the so-called ‘facts’ you speak of to become effective in legitimizing Range Resources’ case, they must conform with the Articles of the Charter of the Republic. Such conformity can only be satisfactorily achieved by legal experts who can impartially weigh the rights or permissions given to Range Resources against the Articles of Law. That isn’t happening now and the representatives of the TFG are themselves breaking the law. Cade is doing the same thing. That said, however, I do not object to the exploration of the land for minerals or other materials. While Cade is legally at fault and is socially insensitive, he is not the only one driven by greed. The elders and the clan militia obstructing the exploration of Majiyahan and Dhallan are also greed-driven, and, considering previous infrastructural projects they have greedily squandered, absolutely ignorant. They are same with Cade or Geedi, if not worse. Whilst using the clan-emblem to rally equally ignorant clan militia, they will cave in the second a penny is promised to them. My criticism is not limited to them but to all those elders/men who object to developmental projects of which they fail to misappropriate its funds. Their personal agendas have no concern for what these sort of projects mean for the ordinary people, let alone anything else, or benefits to the infrastructure of their localities. In this particular case, Sanaag province does not even have roads linking towns to ports and these elders object to such basic developments. The indirect benefits of projects such as this is immense. And unless these benefits are recognized by those who are truly concerned with the well-fare of all peoples and places, corrupt leaders/elders will trade in the people’s death and poverty.

BoiBoi, I am not sure whether you were able to access the old version of Geedi's letter: the one in which he cites the Charter of the State Republic in matters pertaining to the protection and exploration of natural resources. Here is a link. Notice how adamant Geedi is in his opposition to the state of Puntland's action: ASX:RRS. Strangely enough, Geedi's initial letter was on the 6th of Oct. and the 2nd of Nov. he wrote another one. This is fishy because it seems some underhand dealing in taking place within the TFG and between the TFG and Cade. Any premier who changes his mind in this manner has alot of questions to answer. All in all, what is clearly unmistakable in this sudden change of mind the Premier displayed, is that the TFG is incapable of untaking ratification of agreements of the like of Majiyahan or similar agreements. Moreover, companies can be floated in stock markets without the actual existence of stocks per se: they may be deemed in regards to their Futures and Securities. So long as a company can put together a presentable and coherence project proposal, and just have few expertly advices injected into them (usually in this case geologists giving guarantees of potential 'recoverable' costs), it is a done deal. A little bit of media and markets speculation takes care of the rest of the job of attracting intial investors. After that all the rest of the shares are ready to be floated to the secondary market. In general principle, a stock exchange has no ownership of shares . So, maybe Range Res is trading under that condition.

^^^ BoiBoi, these are not varified facts, mate. You have shown me a letter alleged to be from Geedi, whose e-mail address is Premiersom@wanainchi.com and whose formal address is Sarit Centre . What a combination. The letter's authenticity is not beyond doubt and the link you have provided is to Range Resources' website, thus one-sided. The evidence provided in that site was gathered hastily amid an allegation that the company was involved in illegal-deals with the Puntland state. Geedi himself accused the ASX for its irresponsibility in floating 'range's' shares at one minute and to have his written agreement at the next minute is really doubly fishy. Beyond that, there is no case for Cade or Puntland to commence operations. Even if the Transitional Government were to have supported the exploration, the transitional government is, in a nutshell, transitional . Untill a permanent government is established, no contract can take place.

^^^ Is Puntland legally authorized to 'sign' contract with anyone without the permission of an established central Somali state? An interim government without any authority over anywhere cannot be used to legitimize contracts, I believe. Unless that is, there is a reason to believe that there exists a shady deal-making framework to misappropriate national assets. Besides, BoiBoi, don't buy into the state-hood nonsense that now exists in Puntland or Somaliland either. Clans come together with their interests in mind and if their interests are not achieved in state-hood, then, there isn't a point of being part of that state. That is the operative logic in Somalia today. That said, however, we must consider that there is something called tribal territorial integrity, which every clan holds supreme. One of th eruling principles of this tribal territorial integrity concept is the assurance of complete absence of non-clan troops in the territority in which each clan dwells. No state (unless it is a dictatorship) or any other entity can make the mistake of shifting hundreds of armed men accross another man's region, and hope that no questions will be asked! If that were possible, then, it will the anti-thesis of clanism! Thus, that factor should be borne in mind when one wishes to procure a site for exploration or for whatever other reason. Beyond the clan nonsense, as it stands, the principle upon which Puntland itself was established was that it would act as a transitional state untill a central state is re-instituted in Somalia. Thus, deals or contracts of this nature (Majiyahan is a case in point) are are null and void, since, these sort of contracts have been reached outside legal framework of the legitimate Somali state. Contracts of exploration for oils have been offered to companies (such as conaco-philips) by the then Somali state and these contracts hold. The same has to be the case with explorations for minerals in Majiyahan area. Cade's current attempts to give the green light to Concort or Range Resources can be classed as highway robbery of national assets, a robbery intended to take before an able central government is put in place. In a nutshell it is Ka Gaarsii Intaan Lasoo Gaarin philosophy. And I say, wuxuu ka dheefo bal aan aragno.

Reer Qandala flocked to Carmo and turned it into the subclan's primary settlement. At the end things have been settled with Reer Sanaag. Some like to draw a correlation between this and Majayahaan to raise tension in Puntland and the two brotherly clans. Enlighten us, Sky. How was the Carmo Issue solved? Have those who flocked Carmo retreated back to where they initially came from, or are they presently occupying it? The Carmo issue may hold some lessons that may help us understand the mindsets of those who dispute the current exploration project. On the current issue, as others me have already mentioned, it 'may' be a matter of land rights and economic dispute over commons. That said, however, there needs to be a legal framework within which plans pertaining to contracts involving foreign parties could be implimented. The country, albeit this region's comparable stability, has gone through a psychological fine-tuning that is increasing the visibility of clan natural resources and controls over it. If anything, Gen. Cade should have understood the delicate nature of using force in issues that do not require it. Bypassing local dignitaries to get to resources under their sphere of control is not really advisable. However on the whole, I don't think there is a need for exageration from our part.

^^^ Lol Waa 20 million wada dameeri-dhaan-raacdey ah. Ismadhaanto iyo dhasheed ayaanu nahay sxbyaal. A mass of laxo, macaac

If they have done a feasibility study that indicates ample consumer demand, then all the supply they can bring into the market is welcome. They should also look into the things that come with a sizable shopping complex such as this, in terms of not only remittances but also 'constant long-term' income rates, are these incomes sustainably constant? They should calculate the amount of currency they take off a population of such a size, and how they may help replenish the circulating market currency through, prefferably, direct or indirect employment. The rate of wages they give and the contracts they offer to local contractors should also be considered: can taking cheaply provided labour or services create sustainability or continuity for the proposed business? After that question is answered, then, they should look at the potential profit margins to be made from the sector of the market they wish to enter. Sometimes high profit margins at the expense of the locals can have long-term negative consequences. So moderate waging system is adviced. This is a basic capitalist exercise: those who work for you are your number one customers. But I am sure they have looked into these things...and I wish them all the lack..

Well, this is really good. Atlast we are talking. On my part, I have, with the help of an Islamic organization and MuslimAid, planned collections at some universities in London. The tables are up, I have made the posters (with the help of MuslimAid) and along with other Muslims we have started collecting. I know there is a need to form an effectve coalition, but for the time being, I have chosen MuslimAid - since it is both accountable and effective. They have given me their annual reports of the work they have done in somalia..and I am happy with it. But Insha-Allah, we have to plan our own ways of collecting and delivering whatever that is collected. PS: If you wish to collect funds, you can go to your nearest MuslimAid (they also have horn of africa campaign) and get collection buckets with MuslimAid symbols. I guess such symbols officiate a sort of trust to people donating. Good luck and thank you

Good health service; top class education; an economy that provides jobs; and the lot, may be the things to which we have gained access, but who are we kidding, soo wax aan baryo gacmo-hoorsi iyo dawarsi ku helney ma ahan! Ma wax lagu faanaa, talow. I guess if one's beggar's bowl is full with pity-proceeds, he or she would one day stand erect, only to mistranslate what he/she has come to feed on.

I wish people would give their concentration to this emergency....all other discussions should stop save the discussion of how we can help alleviate the people's hardship. Can we atleast give alittle bit of attention to this grave matter..just for few days till we work out how SOL and its members can contribute...? Not likely I guess...I suppose we have other more important issues to discuss. PS: I suppose showing concern for other Somalis is fashionable. Well as you were! Sorry to bother you people.

Mise anaga Somalida tabaaleeysan ee ay oonku iyo gaajada faraha-xun ku haayaan uma diir-naxayno? War sidan maan isku dhaanno dadyahow? If you can not organise a fundraising activity on your own, there are Muslim organizations such as MuslimAid and Islamic Relief, who have branches dealing with Horn of Africa. Please try to: 1- print posters with big CAPS 2- set up stalls or tables collecting money in your respective university, workplace (during the break/lunch time) or in the streets if possible 3- Buy some cakes or snacks and tell people it is free and that they can help in contributing some money 4- Whatever collected, however small, chanel it to an organization that has the means to translate it into food and water on the ground. 5 - Most importantly, place your name in the bit you've collected so that you can follow whether it is reaching the intended people. JUST DO SOMETHING.....IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE BIG.... VOLUNTEER IF YOU CAN FOR FEW HOURS WITH A CHARITIY ORGANIZATION COLLECTING RELIEF FOR HORN OF AFRICA (ESPECIALLY SOMALIA/NORTHERN KENYA)... JUST TAKE A SIMPLE STEP AND YOU WILL BE SURPISED HOW FULFILLING THIS IS.. TIME IS RUNNING OUT...PLEASE.. TAKE THE FIRST ACTION...ANY ACTION WOULD HELP...HELP YOUR FELLOW SOMALIS AND MUSLIMS...

They are simply being Somalis. Damn the laziness!

Training for Somali Team Fails to Start After Row The Nation (Nairobi) NEWS February 28, 2006 Posted to the web February 28, 2006 By Nation Correspondent Nairobi Training for members of the Somali Public Service Commission was called off yesterday after the 10 commissioners boycotted sessions. They wanted the training to be officially opened by the Somali minister in charge of the civil service. Officials at the Kenya Institute of Administration (KIA), where the training was to take place, said the commissioners reported on time but refused to start the lessons. "They are insisting that the training has to be opened by their minister in charge of civil service. I understand the minister is still in Somalia but we are doing all we can to have them start learning as we await the minister," said KIA director Margaret Kobia. But some of the commissioners who talked to the Nation said they would not start the training funded by the UN Development Programme-Somali before the official opening by the minister. Workers at KIA said the commissioners had on Sunday night declined to accept accommodation at the institution claiming that the rooms were sub-standard and did not have television sets. "They gave us a hectic time. We had to call senior officials to sort out the matter," said a worker. It took the officials at KIA several hours to convince the commissioners to accept the rooms. Dr Kobia said the commissioners were free to organise for alternative accommodation outside the institution if they were not comfortable. The 10 commissioners are in the country for a one-month training after which they will return to Somalia to recruit public servants.

One advice I might add: in some London boroughs councils have 'graduate trainee schemes' usually for social work, directed at graduates from black and ethnic minorities. Two years work placement would see you off to your Masters. You may have your Masters paid for, and an allowance of £12 given to you, with the end of the training guaranteeing a job as a qualified social worker. Protected earnings: £27k - £30k annually. This is the perfect opportunity for wanna-be social workers.

^^^ Gents, Illaaheey xaqqa hana wada waafajiyo sxb. Aamiin.

Wadaadnimada waxaa lagu lamaanshaa wanaag iyo yididdiillo san, balse hadii wanaagu tarmi waayo oo dhaciifnimo darteed waxtar yeelan waayo, wadaadku in laga takhaluso ayaa haboon. Wadaadku waa in marka ay awoodi u saamaxdo hergeliyaa wanaagu, si kastaba hergelintaa ha u adkaato e'. Taa kadib, qabiilkii qayb ka mid ah ay is-qaanto, go'aansatona in aay diinta iyo xaqqa noloshooda ku dabbaalaan, waa in la wada garabjoogsado. Hiil iyo hoobna wixii loo awoodo loogu dheeqo. Qolyahan wadaaddada ah hadii qabiil ayeey u dhasheen lagu qoonsanayo, dambina looga dhigayo, iyadoo wanaaga ay nidirsadeen inkiraad looga baxayo; qof damacsadey inuu xumaanta ka shaqeeyo sidaa sameeya.

Generosity cheers victim Ted Brellisford, the Hamilton Spectator Abdullahi Rage, 22, can return to his job once he has transportation. Man receives two offers of vehicles, plus $2,500, after thieves smash his car By Daniel Nolan The Hamilton Spectator (Feb 23, 2006) Abdullahi Rage will soon have wheels again thanks to the generosity of area residents. The 22-year-old Somali refugee has received two offers of vehicles, plus about $2,500, after his car was stolen last month and smashed by thieves in a high-speed chase with police in Burlington. "It makes me very happy," said Abdullahi, who didn't get theft and collision insurance when he bought his 1993 red Chrysler Intrepid in December. The good news continues. The east Hamilton resident lost his job at a rural Ancaster bakery because he couldn't get to work without a car. The owner has since contacted him and told him he can have his job back once he arranges transportation. The impound lot which held his wrecked vehicle after the Jan. 29 incident has also agreed to waive the $180 it wanted from Abdullahi to retrieve his belongings from his car, provided he sign the wreck over to them. He did and was able to get such things as work boots. The Melvin Avenue resident is eager to contact the anonymous Hamiltonians who want to give him a vehicle. One is a 1991 Plymouth Sundance. The other is a 1998 van. With the donations, he'll be able to pay off the $900 he owed on a loan he took out to buy the Intrepid. He says he'll get theft and collision insurance for his next vehicle. "I have to get it." Abdullahi came to Hamilton in 2004 after living in a Kenyan refugee camp. He last saw his car when he parked it behind his apartment building at 8 p.m. Jan. 28. Nine hours later, he learned it had been involved in a police pursuit in Burlington. dnolan@thespec.com 905-526-3351 Source

^^^ Judging from the explanation you've thus far given, the wadaado are in their right to wage war against Qanyare et al. who is harbouring the man responsible for the assasinations. If your account is water-tight and correct, then I fail to understand MMA's protestation, since he has yet to provide any plausible reason as to why we should dismiss the wadaado as another warring faction. You say that Yaxye was killed by Ina Waal in cordination with Qanyare, yet MMA is adamant that it is the wadaado that have committed the murder! God knows which account is true but I somehow sense MMA's definition of wadaadnimo (considering his citing of Al-Islaax's pacificism) is too narrow and restrictive. A definition that forbids the 'wadaad' from protecting his own interests, whilst concerning himself with socially charitable ventures. In a sense, it is a Suufi wayfarer's position in society, where he does not partake in social affairs but only in spiritual matters. When a wadaad takes a position and endeavours to engage in the most positive manner, he ironically crosses the thresh-hold of wadaadnimo and enters into a violence-riden social status. My view and conviction is that the wadaado may be guilty of silence and inactivity for the last 15 years of the civil war. Furthermore, they shouldn't only become active when only in the process of retaliating for their lost ones. They should have been more active long time ago. That said, however, now that they are active, politically and socially, they should act in the interest of the country. PS: I feel that there is no other hope except the wadaado(whatever their composition). Therefore I am forced to wish that they curtail the lawlessness the nation faces.

^^^ I concur with you Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: This looks the last storm by which if we don't repent from our sins, it will contain the remaining of our race in open grave yards. The above message is as impractical and unhelpful as it is betise and irrelevant. Practicality and objectivity require us to react and respond in the most effective manner possible, and to never damn or accuse those whom misfortune had befallen. Where nourishment and relief is needed, what has religiosity or morality got to do with it? Food and drink are of necessity and not religious superiority that is at best pretentious, and at worse, simply daft. One basic fact and logic remains: neither religion nor good ethics will feed you where one is at the brink of starvation. The burning issue is about basic neccesity and not about stup!d theodicy! PS: Alle-Ubaahne, do you have helpful proposals? If you don't and you continue to throw condemnations at starving people, then, this makes me to seriously doubt the originality of your religiosity. PPS: What are SOL users going to do about this precarious situation our countrymen are faced with? Can we atleast commence discussion onto how we can be of assistance? Thank you

Legend, Nimaan lug iyo lag midna faraha ku hayn ayaa calaacala ayeey aniga ila tahay. On a serious note, however, the youngsters must not out-do each other parading each others' not-so-good sides. Or even complain about their opposite gender's shortcomings, shortcomings that are usually imagined out of frustration. Any man or woman who's had genuine experience with someone (whether the experience was pleasant or not) comes to appreciate the wisdom and beauty of being of the same ethnic background. From my part, I can only state that there is a lot of beauty in a woman's nature and nurturing instincts, and wisdom in God's creation of man for exactly how he is created. Boys as boys are boisterous and are most of the time informed by little experience and understanding of social realities. They see or hear that a couple of teenage girls have been 'rumoured' to have gone out with non-Somalis and suddenly this becomes irrefutable 'statistical' evidence! The world-view of a young mind is restricted and limited by the rate of growth it achieves, and, the experiences it absorbs and makes sense of. Soon enough as these young minds start to comprehend more and more, their old view of the world starts to erode and so go rigid views. Also, the phenomenon of cross-cultural dating that is mostly cited against girls and boys alike, can be seen as part and parcel of the rebellious nature of growing up. As has often been observed, certain behaviours are only age-oriented, especially in regards to the correlation between youth and their propensity to commit crimes. As individuals grow into adulthood, this propensity is reduced and responsibility takes hold. Experimentation and rebellions are character builders, in as much as they form one's basis of what is practically and morally good and what isn't. My advice to young untrained brothers is that before you reach any conclusions about our (lovely and simply beautiful - I know I am biased) sisters, at first, please trouble yourselves in understanding their aspirations. Understanding their aspirations and their expectations of the Somali man is crucial, since these aspirations and expectations are usually realistic and practical (and not really ideological or cultural). A woman, as those men who are in a relationship would confirm to you, is likely to ask for things that are achievable and of absolute necessity: good home, caring and sensitive treatment, kindness and generosity, faithfulness and most importantly, to be appreciated and not be taken for GRANTED. These things as practial as they are, they also form the foundations of a successful household, and a successful household is the basis of a successful community. Women therefore possess that strength and capability to make success materialize out of these necessary things. A successful community comes with a successfully FUNCTIONING culture, for which we men have always endeavoured. The scheme here is practical, realistic and if implemented correctly, productive. So get working! The problems we have come to associate with our girls who favour other cultures and their tendencies is in fact due to the other culture's success in getting SOME of the basics right (for example, economically). Our women therefore 'may' rightfully admire these other cultures. Where women favour other cultures less successful than ours, it so happens that these women are young and in their teenage years of mental growth, or are simply driven by either vanity or ignorance or some such thing. So, let us (men) get the basics right by drawing our attention back to the functions of the households and from the clan building. All we have so far achieved, for the last 15 years that is, was to dismantle the foundations of our households. The argument that our women have abandoned our culture is not really a valid argument. Let uss be realistic again and refocus our priorities: build happy homes and educate our kids with good home building values. The rest will come as a result of such effort.

Sijui, wala si kumbuki Aga Khan shule misingi au sekondari. Labda ni kwa sababu sijaishi mji kuu Nairobi, na ya kwamba nilikuwa mfugaji wa ngamia wengi , ba'daye nilikuwa mlimaji shamba. Wakati chache niliposafiri mjini Nairobi niliastajabu na halaiki za watu kwenye barabarani na papo sokoni. Kelele niliposikia ilinibidi nisirudi Nairobi tena.

Intaan lee haliga maqlo ani: "Gariiree, Alla, gariiree! Guuloow Illaahoow Gabartiin gacloodeyaa Gooni iiga goosatayee! An waa go'doomayee Gibilkeey gurmee Goobteey meel eheenaa I geeysayee" Need I say more? -- Heedhehaya, any idea why I can find Saado Cali's Cunaabi video?

^^ It is good to know sxb. I am glad you are here to correct us when we make incorrect stipulations of the subject matter of your specialism.

First Stage -allegations Second Stage -confirmations/Statements Third Stage -investigations Fouth Stage -prosecutions/deliberations Filth Stage -Judgement and Verdict. So far, the case has managed to reach the Third Stage. What was presented to us (the 'Juriors') is part of the evidence. Based on the quality or reliability of the available evidence, we must deliberate and reach a verdict. As I said, we have part of the evidence (police statement - a strong indication) but we haven't had the opportunity to interrogate the rest. If we( however despicable we find the alleged-criminal act to be) decide to deliberate on an incomplete evidence then we have failed to do our duty -impartiality to both the victim and the accused- in order to arrive at the manifest truth. There are no witness testimonials yet, or are there? PS: It is up to each of our choices. Shall we give the victim, her deserved sympathy and find the accused guilty, even possibly when he may not be guilty, or give the accused an unquestioned support, and thus avert justice? You choose.

Just Cause, my pressumption is that (judging from the years spent on the subject) you are a physicist. Am I close to getting it right? Paragon: you're on a lone crusade saaxib. Exactly what triggers your interest in investigating someone's statements on this board? Castro, subtle variations in textual writing of one author from the other. PoMo Double-reading and deconstructionism habbit I unwantedly picked up, unwantedly triggers my curiousity. But in general, I advocate for 'honesty with one's self' when it comes to interacting thoughts and ideas, especially with us Somalis. We need to develop original thoughts, using others' thoughts unceremoniously only offsets efforts of development. PS: Intorrogating texts deflects attention from interrogating personalities, which isn't desireable. Unless that is there is a need for it in order to varify a fact.