Somaliland Requests AU Heads to Recognize Its Sovereignty in Addis Ababa Summit Aweys Osman Yusuf Mogadishu Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu) January 28, 2007 Posted to the web January 29, 2007 The breakaway republic of Somaliland has requested the African heads at the AU summit in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa to officially recognize the independence of Somaliland. The request has reportedly infuriated the Somali government representatives at the summit. The AU summit would be formally open on Monday, while Sudan and Somalia would be the top priority in the African Union summit. The Somali president Abdullahi Yusuf, who he arrived at the summit in Addis Ababa, told journalists that his transitional government would be engaged in peaceful dialog with the secessionist government of Somaliland when the rest of Somalia was tenable and peaceful. "My government will not bother Somaliland until we successfully restore peace and security to Somalia," he told the press. Diplomatic sources said that the executive council committee of the African Union, which convened in Addis Ababa on Thursday, was amazed when Rwandan foreign minister put on the table an agenda calling that Somaliland should be recognized formally by the AU countries. The initiative has promptly angered the Somali envoys who asked that the subject regarding Somaliland should not be discussed at the moment. One of the Somali government representatives has argued that Somaliland did not even have the right to be present at the meeting. He said, Somaliland is not internationally recognized." Steven Mwayungi, the AU envoy for Somaliland, has told London based paper Alsharqalawsat that Somaliland had the right to show itself and ask the international community for recognition of its independence after 16 years of being separate from the rest of Somalia. He indicated that it would not reasonable for Somaliland to unite the rest of Somalia to find so-called Greater Somalia http://allafrica.com/stories/200701290936.html

Ps I’m reasonable and logical enough to switch to the other side and present arguments supporting this action too but, either way, I’d first need to see an argument worth dealing with. Any takers? I can just see you screaming "you're supposed to be saying: .....!" BTW - Your last reply left me confused. Are you saying the MWPC should've shaken the man's hand to spare Muslims the publicity or never joined the force in the first place? EDIT Originally posted by Khayr: Though your questions are valid and show that many inconsistencies make the personality. That does not negate the goodness in her intention and action. This is important to note because anytime a practicing muslim/muslimah suggests that they have been religiously discriminated the argument of 'moral purism' is brought up. i.e. Why are you working in a workforce with other men without a muhram yet not willing to go all the way and integrate fully. If part of you is inconsistent, then just give up totally and be consistent in error. All in the name of common sense So at the end of the day, Allah rewards us for our intention and Allah knows what is in the heart of the sister. How do you square that with rigid and uncompromising views you expressed in this thread: rape law . Can you see how the last paragraph of that post is completely the opposite of the message you've been trying to send in this thread? Is this covered under the "inconsistencies make the personality" disclaimer? Anyways, I hope you do respond (to sister Ameenah's quality posts at least.)

Somalia in danger of reverting to chaos -US military Monday 29 January 2007 00:10. Printer-Friendly version Jan 28, 2007 (DOHA, Qatar) — U.S. military officials here said Somalia could return to chaos in four months if international peacekeepers don’t quickly replace departing Ethiopian troops now propping up the country’s weak government. A Somali government spokesman echoed the warning on Sunday, saying Islamic fighters were regrouping and the U.S.-backed transitional government lacked troops, training and weapons to deal with them. "We need the support of the international community to deploy forces and assist us in securing the country," said Abdirahman Dinari by telephone from Mogadishu. Dinari said fighters from the deposed Council of Islamic Courts were counterattacking just as the invading Ethiopians have begun pulling out. Islamic fighters "are coming back to Mogadishu," Dinari said. "They’re destabilizing sections of the city. They’re killing innocent civilians. They’re attacking police stations." A pair of U.S. military officials interviewed in Qatar last week said a worrying power vacuum was developing in Somalia, with Ethiopian troops hastening their departure amid reports that the army that invaded in December is being debilitated by malaria. Most troubling, one officer said, was that none of the 10 to 20 Council of Islamic Courts leaders or their al-Qaida allies are known to have been killed or captured, and most of the few-thousand-strong militia remains intact inside Somalia. "They’re probably just lying low. They’re probably waiting for Ethiopia to leave," the U.S. officer said. Heightening the pressure, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi told The Associated Press Sunday that he would pull a third of his troops out of Somalia within the next two days. Meles was speaking on the eve of an African Union summit in Addis Ababa. The African Union has approved a plan to send about 8,000 peacekeepers for a six-month mission that would eventually be taken over by the U.N. Nigeria, Malawi and Uganda have said they want to contribute troops, but no firm plans are in place. South Africa, meanwhile, says its forces are too stretched to contribute. Ethiopian forces have been widely credited with a quick success in ousting the Islamic Courts militia from controlling most of Somalia and installing the weak, U.N.-recognized government in the capital, Mogadishu. U.S. forces played a limited role in the campaign, training and supplying the Ethiopian army, mounting air raids on militia targets and stationing a U.S. Navy carrier battle group off the Somali coast. But impoverished Ethiopia lacks funds and staying power to sustain an occupation of its chaotic neighbor. And the U.S. military has no plans to increase its role beyond backing its Ethiopian allies, the U.S. official said. When Ethiopia finishes its mission, the carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and its accompanying ships will leave the Somali coast, he said. (AP)

Originally posted by NGONGE: I may or may not agree with her stance. But this is not about her. This is about Muslim women working as police officers. Why are you refusing to see this as a valid discussion? Actually, I think it’s a must discussion. To answer that we need to know what a Muslim PC/WPC has to pledge to be accepted as a police officer. How are the compromises (if any) going to be out-weighed by the benefits - Islamic benefits that is. Another important issue is the motive (no pun) behind it all. Is the money/career more important than educating "the force" about Islam, for example. The answers decide whether one is a Muslim PC or plain PC. The same applies to all of us and goes back to question how we can be practicing Muslims in secular UK.

lol@account frozen. Muslinimada intii break laga qaato ayaa gaalanimada laga war doonaa miyuu xaal marayaa. Sad indeed Jim. When a person supports action like the US air raids that have been taking place, xaalku mawanaagsana.

Not that surprising to see cyber collaborators delirious with the compliments of the duplicitous but ... "by supping with the devil by resorting to Tigrian tanks by resorting to Yankee terror planes by playing the al-Qaida card" What kind of person would brag about that?

Are Yeysters on the other side of the fence even on this protest?

Originally posted by Suldaanka: quote: the transitional federal government under which both "Somaliland" and "Puntland" are part of its system. Since when? :confused: Since the last closed-doors "Yeysters only" meeting.

With a veterinarian for prime minister and butcher for president, Suuqa Xoolaha must be a very strategic capture for the TFG.

Ethio Occupation (my part in its fall) - General Dude "Smithy" My principles (32nd Edition) - HornAfrique Neutrality - Baashi.

^^ Why not call the Ethios to secure it for you? xilli kala guur ah ayaa lagu jiraa Whatever that means

Sky, female company is great. I urge you to try it, for a change.

BANNAAN-BAX KUSAABSAN DOONISTA ICTIRAAFKA SOMALILAND OO KA DHACAY MAGAALADA CEERIGAABO EE CAASIMDA GOBOLKA SANAAG Maayarka degmada Ceerigaao Ismaaciil Xaaji Nuur ayaa ugu horrayn fagaarahaas kala hadlay bulshada reer Sanaag ee isugu soo baxday.. "Calankani Somaliland naf iyo maal badan ayuu qabaa" qarannews

Pi What about opinions of fishmongers? Are they relevant at all?

If everything fails, email an Ethio forum for support.

Originally posted by Pi: ^^ Castro, I bet "shopper" here is just some sort of euphemism for a butcher, ama habar hilibka iibisa. I don't think the testimony of butchers, night watchmen, and goat-herders are credible. “The Ayr clan is part of the problem,” Mr. Dinari said. Dumb and dumber!

HornAfrique What's also interesting is; you and Caydiid Jnr are pro-Ethios these days.

Originally posted by General Dude Smith: Lets now think hypothetically what would have happened if Puntland 1. Claimed to be a national government for the whole of Somalia with its new capital in Garowe 2. Armed by Ethiopia and with Ethiopian troops backing attacked the south with the aim of unifying Somalia by force. 3. Broke away from the rest of Somalia and declared it a new republic. To me all of these options would have been disastrous and would have fuelled even more conflict. Good thing we had it in writing.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I find it odd that this would be brought back a little after Gedonet's allegation of Oromo, Eretrian, and foreign fighters to have been imported to fight other Somalis has been proven. Ethiopian soldiers patrol Somalia's port city of Kismayu, January 5, 2007. REUTERS

Che, I've never claimed to be "neutral" yaa saxbi.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: quote:Originally posted by Halgan: Waryaahe, Duke, malaguu magacaabin miyaa safirka dawladda ee UK? Waxaad u qabatay oo dhan ma sac bacaad lagu lisaa? Soori. Cabdillaahi Seed nin la yiraahdo ayaa meeshaas loo magacaabay [ama ismagacaabay, as the xaalada seems like that now], though dowlada Ingiriiska do not recognize this dowlad ku sheeg. Ask yourself, what do these following men have in common. Yuusuf Baribari of Midowga Yurub [EU], the danjiraha to Brussels. Cabdillaahi Seed, danjire ku sheega Soomaaliyeed ee Boqortooyada Ingiriiska. Kooshin Max'ed isku magacaabay danjiraha Soomaaliya u fadhiya ee Mareykanka. Cumar Jamaal -- xoghayaha guud ee siyaasadda u fadhiyo Qaramada Midooway [whatever it means, though I assume to spy officially the real danjire u fadhiyo meesha]. Ciid Bedel Max'ed, danjire ku xigeenka Qaramada Midooway. [He could have been the real danjire, laakiin banooniga ayaa la barayaa, until then ha sugo...] --------------- Dowlad ku sheeg aan tabar lahayn ayaa saan u dhaqmeyso ka waran mid awood buuxda leh? Even the most corrupt-prone, masuqmaasuq countries oo awood ku leh dalalkooda, iskaba dhaaf Soomaaliya, saan uma dhaqmaan oo waa xishoodaan the leaders ka taliyo meelahaas. Reer London might know Cabdirashiid Seed as Cabdirashiid "Qoor". One thing that will work in his favour - at least in my book - the man is not the biggest hypocrite in politics.

^^ The chances are between slim and none and slim is out of town. - Ali

Baashi does this mean the end of "neutrality"?

The fears 1. A Somali government recognize by the world and in control of the country. Warlords and their checkpoints ain't no government. 2. A united “South” with Mogadishu, Kismayu, Bossaso under one administration. Yes, under one administration, Ethiopian administration. 3. Losing their “Special” status tag as Mogadishu becomes ever more stable. Somaliland is the only place where Somalis have no foreign troops supervision. Not DjIbouti, not Ogden (K5), Not Somalia (K6) and not NFD. If that's not "special status", what is Duke Smith? There is a shift of emphasis away from Hargaysa and towards Mogadishu of late. I'm guilty of over-estimating your intelligence that's all. Don't confuse sympathy and respect for some members of the ICU who were men of principle - unlike the warlords you cheer - for fear.

You left out the best of the so-called denials. This one is straight out Yey's mouthpiece. "Hadalka Wasiirka Gudaha ee Soomaaliya Xuseen Caydiid uu shalay ka sheegay Muqdisho ma ahan mid ku qotoma siyaasadda Dowldda, balse waa hadal uu iskii isaga yiri, waxaana caddeynayaa in dowladdu aysan siyaasad ahaan xilligaan ahayn mid doonaysa in la isku daro Soomaaliya iyo Ethiopia" ayuu yiri C/raxmaan DIinaari oo hadal dheer siiyay BBC-da qaybta Afka Ingiriiska.