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Baashi   

Somali government says guns won't decide disputed port's fate

 

By Abdi Sheikh

 

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's new government said on Monday it was pursuing talks to resolve rival claims for control in the south that have stoked fears of a return to the clan wars that pitched the nation into anarchy two decades ago.

 

A local assembly on Thursday declared a former Islamist warlord, Ahmed Madobe, president of Jubaland. Madobe is not viewed favourably by Mogadishu and within a day two other men had pronounced themselves president, including Barre Hirale, a former warlord and defence minister seen as pro-government.

 

How the fate of Jubaland and its port city Kismayu is resolved will be a litmus test for Somalia as it rebuilds from the ruins of war and cements a fragile peace, a quest hampered by the central government's weakness outside Mogadishu.

 

Islamist militants or clan militias, hovering in the wings, could swoop if the competition for Kismayu turns violent. But guns have stayed silent so far and the government's stated determination to seek talks could help it stay that way.

 

"It will take time but there is no going back to civil war. That is not an option," Ahmed Adan, a spokesman for Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon Saaid, told Reuters, calling for "peaceful and authentic negotiations".

 

On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991.

 

"Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable."

 

Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said.

 

Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position.

 

"Kismayu is perhaps the biggest prize to be had in Somalia," said J Peter Pham of the U.S.-based Atlantic Council. "It has the biggest working seaport in the country, two airports, and is surrounding by potentially rich agricultural lands."

 

DIVVYING UP POWER

 

Regional capitals and Western donors are nervous of any reversal of gains made in Somalia by African Union peacekeepers in the fight against the Islamist al Shabaab rebels, seen as a threat to stability in east Africa and well beyond.

 

President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud's cash-strapped federal government exerts little authority beyond Mogadishu. How to divvy up power between the centre and regions is a thorny issue, particularly when Kismayu's lucrative port is at stake.

 

The prime minister's office said a high-level government delegation was in negotiations with the rival parties. There is, though, a widespread feeling among Somalia's southern clans that Mogadishu is not listening to their demands.

 

Even so, a mixture of exhaustion with conflict and a desire to capitalise on Kismayu's trade flow could help peace to hold.

 

"Among the clans I don't think there is any appetite for civil war. There is, though, a real appetite for control of power and resources," said Abdi Aynte, director of the Mogadishu-based Heritage Institute for Policy Studies.

 

Madobe, who some see as close to Kenya, was governor of Kismayu during an Islamist administration that was routed when Ethiopian forces, with the tacit backing of the United States, waged an offensive in Somalia from 2006 to 2009.

 

He was held in Ethiopia for two years. After his release Madobe and his powerful Ras Kamboni militia sided with Kenyan troops against al Shabaab from late 2011.

 

Kenya's land forces swept into Somalia to secure the porous frontier the two share and are now part of a near 18,000-strong African Union peacekeeping force fighting al Shabaab. A Kenyan ally in Kismayu could provide Nairobi with a welcome buffer.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/somali-government-says-guns-wont-decide-disputed-ports-155008849.html

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Wasiirkii hore ee Dastuurka Dowladdii KMG ahayd Xildhibaan C.rixmaan Xoosh Jabriil oo kamid ah Waftigii dowladdu u dirtay Magaalada Kismaayo oo Waraysi gaar ah siiyay Warbaahinta Saadaal Media ayaa faah faahin dheeraad ah ka bixiyay waxyaabihii u qabsoomay intii ay Kismaayo ku sugnaayeen.

 

C/rixmaan Xoosh Jabriil ayaa sheegay inay kulamo la qaateen dadka dagan Kismaayo isla markaana ay is waydaarsadeen Fikradihii ay dowladda ka wadeen iyo sidoo kale aragtida dadka reer Kismaayo ee ku aadan Maamulada faraha badan ee looga dhawaaqay Magaalada.

 

C/raxmaan Xoosh Jabriil ayaa wuxuu hoosta ka xariiqay inay Magaalada Kismaayo kula kulmeyn Odayaasha Dhaqanka, wax garadka, dhalinyarada iyo weliba haweenka ku

dhaqan, sida uu yiri.

 

Waxaan soo ogaanay buu yiri inay dadku doonayaan Maamul buuxo oo ay dadka ku wada mideysan yihiin, isagoo xusay inaysan dadka reer Kismaayo dooneyn, Maamulka hal garab uun ka socda.

 

Maamulada kala duwan ee looga kala dhawaaqay Magaalada Kismaayo, ayuu wuxuu cadeeyay inuu si xoog leh uga horimaanaayo Dastuurka dalka, wax walba oo Sharuucda dalka u degsan kahor imaanaaya, ayuu sheegay inay yihiin waxaan soconeyn.

 

Mr Xoosh ayaa wuxuu tibaaxay in waxa ay doonayaan dadka reer Kismaayo, la heli karo oo kaliya sida uu yiri, kolka loo ogaansamo Dastuurka dalka, haddii aan sidaasi la yeelin ayuu sheegay inuu fashil ku soo idlaan doono, rabitaan kasta oo la doono.

 

Wasiirkii hore ee Dastuurka dowladda Soomaaliya ayaa sidoo kale xusay dadkii ay la kulmeen inay ka codsadee in dowladdu ka howlgasho Kismaayo, sida Xarumaha Booliska iyo dhaqaalaha si dadka deegaanku ay Cadaalad ugu qayb sadaan Khayraadka deegaankooda.

 

Waxaa uu sheegay inay la kulmeen Wakiilo ka kala socday Raga sheegtay Madaxwaynayaasha Jubbaland isla markaana ay kala hadleen sida ugu haboon ee arinta la iskugu keeno karo.

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Baashi   

I'm impressed :)Reer hebel, wacade, turub baray :) They get a trojan horse slip in the cover over the dark by a boat and after 12 days decalre himself a president!

 

Today Reuters dispatcher files in a report that gives credence to that new narrative.

 

(1) Government in Mogadishu spares no effort to bring the "dispute" amony rival clans in Kismayo to an end.

(2) Mogadishu won't allow guns to be used in resolving this "dispute"

(3) Dahabo Olad -- mother of eight & Safia Ali Said -- a shopekeeper (folks on ground zero) tell like it is :) They conveyed their assessment over the mobile phone.

(4) Ahmed Adan -- a spokesperson of the Prime Minister's office -- informs this dispatcher that the era of civil war is over and there is no going back.

(5) J Peter Pham confirms the strategic importance of the region :)

(9) Finally, Abdi Aynte the head of the "Think Tank" in Mogadishu :) weighs in on the issue.

 

Pretty objective, fair and balanced reporting by Abdi Sheikh :)

 

Maxaa kuu baxay? :)Adduun!

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Dabrow   

Thanks Baashi for the link. Even Reuters is talking about the looming instability in Kismayo. A reality the likes of Xiin wants to supress and forget about.

 

 

"On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991.

 

"Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable."

 

Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said.

 

Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position."

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Jacpher   

Maaddeey;952719 wrote:

Maaddeey:

 

Waraa goormaad u janjeertay dhanka Hassan iyo Hiiraale ood ka tagtay them Al Qaacida boys you used to speak high of on this board? Ma lay off baa lagaa siiyay howshii aad heysay mise qabiil baa ku qaaday? :D

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Baashi, this media offense is quite impressive no doubt.

 

Ina Caynte waa abtirsaday , I always knew him as a man with grievance against one Somali clan. He found a platform to convey his message to the world :D :D

 

President Hassan has too many balls in the air; Jubbaland, Somaliland, Puntland, Federalism, Kenya , Ethiopia, and a significant number of MPs advancing a motion against his PM.

 

As it happens Kismayo is just fine , and no word from Barre since that famous phone interview and the youtube clip :D :D

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Baashi   

Got it Xiin.

 

When will the parlaiment be constituted?

 

Does anyone have JL's constitution? Please post it if you would.

 

Where is Gaani by the way?

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Baashi;952699 wrote:
I'm impressed
:)
Reer hebel, wacade, turub baray
:)
They get a trojan horse slip in the cover over the dark by a boat and after 12 days decalre himself a president!

 

(3) Dahabo Olad -- mother of eight & Safia Ali Said -- a shopekeeper (folks on ground zero) tell like it is
:)
They conveyed their assessment over the mobile phone.

 

Maxaa kuu baxay
?
:)
Adduun
!

 

lol@ground zero. Dahabo made me laugh Awoowe. Classic indeed!

 

 

Xiinoow, what platform does Caynte have?

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Caynte is the head of some policy research institute funded by some shady entities . The institute is based in Mogadishu or so they tell us :D

 

He has been very active giving credence to Barre Hiiraale's interview and creating a narrative of conflict in Kismayo to buttress Hassan Sheekh's policy objective .

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Baashi   

Libaax, Abdi Sheik, the Reuter’s dispatcher, meets the two independent source bar he’s required to clear. He has Dahabo iyo Safia:) He also has the government side covered pretty well. The dispatcher touched base with Caynte ahem! (Xiinow is he the same Caynte in UNM back in the days?). The other side? oh well why bother:) Journalism at its best!

 

Xiin, what happened to the parlaiment? When will that important task be accomplished?

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raula   

Eh..iga raali ahaad my brothers-I don't mean to interrupt or spoil your lit' picnic here :D

 

**after watching the clip of xildhibaano grudging about their lit' kulaan & qado, & seeing someone i know as xildhibaan wale ana waxaan is iri I will run for parliamentary elections in the next round-indeed why xamaali isku dili anoo dadkeyga ii bahaan..laakin xagee kasoo jestaa as prospect xildhibaanad :D (advise pls).

 

Ps: kenyaati on steroids..beryahaan inteey xininyahii is qabteen yaa wale iska dhigeen umaad qaran hagaajin walahi somalia is in for a rude awakening. & Even Pham has "gained weight" banking on the absurdity of somalis.

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Baashi   

raula;953064 wrote:
Eh..iga raali ahaad my brothers-I don't mean to interrupt or spoil your lit' picnic here
:D

 

**after watching the clip of xildhibaano grudging about their lit' kulaan & qado, & seeing someone i know as xildhibaan wale ana waxaan is iri I will run for parliamentary elections in the next round-indeed why xamaali isku dili anoo dadkeyga ii bahaan..laakin xagee kasoo jestaa as prospect xildhibaanad
:D
(advise pls).

 

Ps: kenyaati on steroids..beryahaan inteey xininyahii is qabteen yaa wale iska dhigeen umaad qaraan hagaagin walahi somalia is in for a rude awakening. & Even Pham has "gained weight" banking on the absurdity of somalis.

Dhuubo you will always have my vote :) Go girl go :)

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Baashi, yes Caynte was there though he never graduated from it--he is a nice fellow though.

 

We don't know when jubba state parliament will be established , the last thing I heard was sometime before the end of month. But we shall see

 

raula, you have our votes . Let me know which elder I should call and whip up his vote :D

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