Kenya: Garissa residents shot after army launches crackdown

[xiinfaniin]

Apophis might have spoken too early on this matter . There is no escape from tutu's rigorous analysis of the situation.

 

A safe rule of thump is when civilian lives are lost in the hands of law enforcement ( the army in this case), one should always be on the side of civilians. In Africa, and everywhere, authority tend to cross the line in these situations.

[Che -Guevara]

^The 'Kismayo infatuation' as tutu puts it has steamed some people's lenses.

[Haatu]

My God, Apophis has family iin Gsa and has roots in Kismayo? What next, he's my cousin as well?

[Che -Guevara]

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I feel some sort of awakening here.

[tutu]

xiinfaniin;891765 wrote:

A safe rule of thump is when civilian lives are lost in the hands of law enforcement ( the army in this case), one should always be on the side of civilians. In Africa, and everywhere, authority tend to cross the line in these situations.

True.

[tutu]

Apophis;891733 wrote:

^^All we can for certain right now is that we don't know anything

We do know for certain that KDF committed gruesome acts against the inhabitants of Garissa including rape, torture, property and looting of millions of shillings. Where their orders came from their local commander or from the highest office in Kenya is of no value and won't heal wounds. In all scenarios, the responsibility rests with their seniors.

 

Lets wait for the facts.

Waiting facts from where? From the parliamentary committee? If that's the case, see you in 2030 still waiting for the facts.

[tutu]

I feel some sort of awakening here.

There have been awakening for sometime now. Only that the power that be ensure vocal and staunch leaders like Billow Kerow (second speaker) are not re-elected. This guy was a living-hell to the government when he was in parliament. But they conspired against him just like they've done to other vocal leaders from that region. It has become an accepted rumor that the house on the hill decides who the people elect through corruption. Making sure stubborn leaders are shunned.

[Che -Guevara]

^Unfortunately this has become the narrative in Somali lands with exception Jabouti but I do believe NFD stands the best chance in determining its future albeit within the context of Kenya's political structure. Let's see what devolution of power means for Somalis.

[tutu]

There's hope despite the recent obstacle, specially after full implementation of the county governments. Yep NEP stands a better chance in Kenya.

[Che -Guevara]

^With the growing economic muscle of Somalis, I think this community has real good chance. And of course, Somali refugees and native Somalis have also to reconcile and understand they need each other in order to solidify their base and achieve prominence. I think they are both slowly learning to accept each other.

[OdaySomali]

Damn, check at 2.11, the Kenyans are going in hard on a Somali!

 

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

^You are splitting hairs. The KDF is an arm of the State; a distinction without a difference.

[Oz]

Guys tutu is on point, take notes

 

Ps: tutu endelea kuwacharaza..lol

[tutu]

This 'news' has been around for days now but no official confirmation yet, waa un war lugeed amongst Somalis. I guess its a salient way to instill some confidence in people, notably to rebuild Haji's reputation as people have angrily voiced disappointment in him. What we need is official reports and publicly-known prosecution against these people not some secret arrests. But there is civil litigation going on.

 

PS; The man in the picture is a prominent business man. He lost one of his tall hotel buildings in the mayhem. He was also mishandled and dragged in the mud along with the area MP during the operation.

 

On the other hand, KDF have accepted ordering a platoon to take part in the operation but denies any wronging.

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Military denies torching Garissa town

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Posted Thursday, November 22 2012 at 00:34

 

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The operation followed the killing of three soldiers shot by unknown assailants at a tyre repair point in the town on Monday.

KDF’s information operations officer Colonel Cyrus Oguna on Wednesday termed the media reports that the military had raped, tortured, looted, killed women and children and burnt business and residential property as malicious and lies crafted to taint the credibility of KDF.

 

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The Kenya Defence Forces has dismissed reports accusing them of criminal activities during an operation in Garissa town.

 

The operation followed the killing of three soldiers shot by unknown assailants at a tyre repair point in the town on Monday. (READ: Garissa erupts in violence after soldiers’ killing)

 

KDF’s information operations officer Colonel Cyrus Oguna on Wednesday termed the media reports that the military had raped, tortured, looted, killed women and children and burnt business and residential property as malicious and lies crafted to taint the credibility of KDF.

 

“Allegations suggesting KDF committed atrocities in Garissa are false and must cease,” he said. The three soldiers were shot dead in the company of two colleagues.

 

The two, Col Oguna said, did not fight back to avoid collateral damage since people had started scampering for safety, following the gunshots.

 

“After the incident was reported at the camp, a platoon was dispatched to secure the vehicle and bodies of the fallen soldiers,” said the officer.

 

Immediately, locals informed the soldiers that the assailants had fled to Bula Mzuri village and a joint operation by the Kenya Police and KDF was launched.

 

“The KDF surrounded the village while the police carried out the actual search. The search recovered a communication device,” he said, noting that the exercise was called off at 4.30pm.

Col Oguna said riots erupted in the town after the three soldiers were killed and police had to fire teargas canisters to disperse them.

 

The following morning, attackers fired at the Garissa military camp but the soldiers said they did not return fire but moved to secure the camp and the airstrip

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[tutu]

Oz;891932 wrote:

Guys tutu is on point, take notes

 

Ps: tutu endelea kuwacharaza..lol

Niachie hawa, nitawaelimisha! Wengine hawana kidokezo lolote kuhusu siasa ya Kenya ila kupaka matope wenyeji wa kaskazini mashariki.