Siyad Bare: A Dictator or a Dear Leader?

[Ibtisam]

One man’s hero is another terrorist, depends on where you are from and how he treated you. For those whose families benefited, he would always be Abow Siyad.

[Abu-Salman]

It's basic historical knowledge that Syad's coup or the army takeover was widely applauded by all Somalis (North and South) thanks to the spiralling corruption of the "democratic" government, an "a la Hamid Karzai" regime, too busy pillaging state coffers and rewriting electoral rules at the last minute, while enlisting security forces in such frauds (Igal's regime main priority was indeed to hold on on the parliamentary seats by all means necessary).

 

Of course, the new junta was not holy either and state failure actually occured before Syad's ousting, at around the time of his car accident back in 1986; however, A. Yusuf first clan based coup just after the 1976 defeat catalysed, among many other troubles, the marked surge in nepotism (who else could a Somali leader victim of such attempts trust in critical functions?).

 

The two most serious charges against Syad regimes are the civilian massacres (particularly in the North in 1988) and anti-Islamic policies (there were others officers all too ready for such tasks than the actual president); for instances, pro-communism "elites", the military authorities in Mudug during the atrocities around 1977 or gen Samatar and many others in 1988 (when Syad was recovering), all those officials do share the blame (I A Abokor, a politburo or executive military council member from Burao, was proclaiming that "dhiiga kacandiika ayaa lagu waraabinaya ubaxa kacaanka").

 

At the same time, all opponents of the regime, starting with the SSDF, were even unholier in some ways and could be criticised or scrutinised at the very least for their roles in arousing support against khat ban, deliberately exposing civilians by invading heavily populated cities and confusing the public through clanish rethorics or unpatriotic alliances (eg, Ethiopian military role in capturing balanbale, soliciting ennemy logistical support as well as strategic alliance, anti-civilian atrocities etc).

 

At the end of the day, the most criminal were those Soviet or western-acculturated "elites" who misled Syad, the military as well as the rest of the society through empty promises and nefarious rethorics; likewise for those who stayed aloof for one reason or another...

 

 

PS: both my family and lineage were heavily involved against Syad's Junta and suffered most or threatened accordingly...still, we absolutely need to dispense with the "family dinner table" black-and-white version of History and events..

[NASSIR]

Two major Generals of the army and the police led the coup. I agree it was initially welcomed inside and a $ millions of aid money injected from outside, but it turned out that corruption, nepotism, dictatorship, and ethnic-cleansing took its biggest toll, the corralary of which has been a prolonged anarchy and further division and ethnic-cleansing. It was a cursed legacy on the history of Somalia.

[Maaddeey]

Siyaad Barre waa tegay!, Soomaaliyana meeshii uu kaga tegay meel ka xun ayey mareysaa, mustaqbalka dhowna xataa ma muuqato si ay uga soo reyneyso, wixii qalad uu lahaana Ilaah ayaa kula xisaabtamaya!.

 

Sida Jamaal sheegayna, hadda maxaa talo ah?

 

Soomaali waxbaa si ka ah! xumaanta dadka ay la qabaan waxaa u dheer, qab baas, qabyaalad, been, xaqiraad & tan ugu daran ee ah inaan waxba la isu oggoleyn!.

 

Soomaalidu ma yaqaanaan NAQDI dheellitiran, qofka samaantiis & xumaantiis isma bar-bardhigaan, kii mar dembi yar lagu arko waa u dhamaatay! cudurdaar, sharraxaad & siyaasad toona lama tixgeliyo.

 

Sawirka wayn & maxaa dalka dan u ah ma jirtee, mar hadduu Aniga & Qabiilkeyga ii daranyahay waa: BUL ALLAHA SIIYO!.

 

20 sano kadib Siyaad Barre, haddii sheekadu mareyso Cadaado oy degaan Sub-sub-clan iney dawlad goboleed noqoto, aniga waxaan ka iri:

 

SALAAMULLAAHI CALAL SIYYAAD!

[Kamaavi]

Siyad Bare took his time. Now it's today's men. But could we use our time properly? Time is the keyword, dear lads.

 

Talo keen noqo aan ka ahayn talo aqbal iska noqo, ijiid aan ku jiido iyo isjiid jiid waa in laga baxnaa calaa aqli ,,,, wakhtigana laga faa'iidaysto

 

Hadalka intaas ha lagu soo jaro !

[Allamagan]

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte:

Allamaganoow, ina ayeeyo ku cafiyay J11 madaxiis. Waxaad igu daldashayna haddee waad ogtahay oo marna Libaax kugu dal dali mahayo.

LSk, maxaan kugu daldalay sxb oo J11 dartiis igu cafisay? tell me bal. Miyan ku caayey? No way rather I attacked your views with regard to this subject at hand suggesting that 1960s admins were less corrupt than that tii kacaanka. That was my point awoowe and of course you as LSK are not immune from criticism.... you know that

[Jibreel]

He was a marxist dictator.However he is what he is and perhaps its his legacy,the legacy that he has left behind that will properly define him but as history is still being written,perhaps time will come when we can truelly judge him by his merits but for now,he is a fallen man who was once upon a time a leader of a nation.