Khadafi

One man, one man vote will not happen. Farmaajos propoganda is just empty talk.

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Khadafi   

Indeed Somalia has made progress. While we  not now resemble the scenes of Mel Gignsons of Mad-Max film, some order seems to be norm in in the city. While I was in Mogadishu  for a short trip  I met a minister I wish not name and the members of the parliament for the guddiga doorashooyinka. A  well educated woman with a professionalism that can not be matched by  somali men. While we were sipping tea  together with all mps (mursal was in the backroom) She was actually talking as if Somalia was somekind of  peacefull Tanzania.  The ballboxes would be spread out to the regiobal states.  I was startled and said nothing. While I came home Xamar jajab I had  a long conversation with a minister. I said   the chairman would not even move freelly from villa Somalia and she is talking about 1 man 1 vote.

Yaanan been lisku sheegin. Meeshas 1 man one vote kama soo socoto. Another  importabt  but vital question is what about the minority groups whose lands were ockupied by the Italians and then given and made into Mogaadishu.   Prof. M Muktar explained perfectly well that SYL made up majority by Banaadiri Soomalis.  Xaaji Dheere, Sakhawaadin.     D-block has support the  the candidates mogadishu  can only be Banaadiris. This is a compromise that will suil all feduing clans.

During the mayhen 1991 when the government  were losing the ground in the Mogadishu ,  the late colonel  AUN Saciid Mariino captured the arny deposits of the Somali navy and held a pary convention by SNU.  The late Banaadiri lawyer Avookate Maxamed Raajis  was the last elected mogadishu mp during the lections in 60-mogadishu Said famously". 

"Dagaaal waa xikmad, Siyaad Barrena 6 sano ayuu u xiray. Hadii maanta anaga hub qaadano meeel aan u cararno ma jirto", Saciido Hubkaadi ma rabno, Xaaran dhiig soomalyed ma rabno". Dadka Banaadirigha waa taarikha ugu qoran  in Sayid Barqash iyo ciidamadiisa ka eryeen bortuqiiska".  USC wada hadal ayaa la galayna.One man 1 vore. While one can be elected fron Mogadishu and Cadaado was soconeyso iyo caqli gal maaha.  The original inhabitants of Mogadishu  together with the  some segments of Abgaal  should be the only one that should be elected  from  certain districts from Mogadishu.

 

 

 

 

 

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There was no chance. We knew it from the start. :D

Those who are proponents of 1p1v like Garowe Administration, have themselves failed to implement in their clan enclaves. It is a case of "waan socon kari waayay, aan cararo". If they can't do it at their clan level... do not expect to do it at 100x the difficulty level. 

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Oodweyne   
On 7/6/2020 at 12:20 PM, Khadafi said:

The original inhabitants of Mogadishu  together with the  some segments of Abgaal  should be the only one that should be elected  from  certain districts from Mogadishu

Khadafi,

And yet you have the brass neck to accuse others of being clannish, which is what you were spouting with it in the other day about Somaliland.

In other words, if Mogadishu is the alleged capital of your country, couldn't you see the stupidity involved in saying that only "certain people" should have the right to vote there, or should get elected from there?

What difference will it then make from any other city "owned" by a particular clan?

Capital has to be open to all, even if the majority of the people are of certain clans.

Hence, the point is not who is the majority of the capital of the country, but rather, there should be no law that legally delineates as to who has the "constitutional rights" to vote there. 

Talk about logical and constitutional fallacy that can be "observed" between the idea of claiming that Mogadishu should be the capital of the country on one hand, and at the same time, and on the other side of the mouth, advocating a legal instrument in "limiting" who should have the constitutional right to be voted there and get elected from there. 

As for this absurd business of saying that Somalia is now ready for "one-person-one-vote" (1P1V) is concerned, it was always a fiction. And it was always a cheap stunt in which the political chancers at Villa Somalia were selling to their gullible cheerleaders.

And now given that the "rubber had met the road" (as it were), and the white-in-their-eyes, can be seen by all, then the jig is truly up.

Hence, that would mean that they would have to start leveling with those of whom they have led them through the garden's path for the last three and a half years, who are those of whom they were feeding with all manner of bogus codswallop of the silliest kind, indeed.

This is why we are likely to see the usual seller's auction market of votes taking place within the usual "4.5 clannish horse-trading" in short order, just like it occurred back in 2016. 

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  Another importabt  but vital question is what about the minority groups whose lands were ockupied by the Italians and then given and made into Mogaadishu. “ 

So your little Faqash mind thinks Mogadishu came into an existence or made as you put it during the Italian colonial occupation.  

“D-block has support the  the candidates mogadishu  can only be Banaadiris. This is a compromise that will suil all feduing clans.”

Habaar habar faqash miyaa mise waxaanan ogeeyn ayaad  ogtahay.

 

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YaxaaS   
2 hours ago, cadnaan1 said:

Qof walba fikradiisa ha dhiibto without name calling.

 

 

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2 hours ago, cadnaan1 said:

Qof walba fikradiisa ha dhiibto without name calling.

Cadnaan1 aka Saalax don’t mind to be called looters inc, ******** multiple times but hates to hear the word Faqash.  

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galbeedi   

Here is how it could happen.

THere won't be direct vote. voting will be held not only in regional level but also in district level. Every member of parliament will be elected by about 250 people. Those vying for a seat ( member of parliament) has to run under the banner of a political party.

Nabad iyo Nolol and others will fight for that seat, yet the seat will still belong to certain clan under 4.5. Which means the seat contested in Diinsoor will be for grasp among those sub clans in Diinsoor.

Then those elected will proceed to Magadishu and will congregate under their political party. The party with majority of members will elect the president or a coalition of parties might elect the president and share the prime minister.

That was what Farmaajo and company will eventually agree after failing the illogical idea of one man one vote.

 

 

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1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Then those elected will proceed to Magadishu and will congregate under their political party. The party with majority of members will elect the president or a coalition of parties might elect the president and share the prime minister.

A reer miyi man was once given a maths lesson. The teacher wanted to give an example of subtraction and took 'goats' as an example.  The teachers starts it with 'consider you have 10 goats in an enclosure/xero, if one jumps out of the enclosure - how many left inside the enclosure?"... the reer miyi guy knowing the behaour of goats very well said "Waar aniga aqaan riyaha oo midna kuma jirayaan xeroda". Essentially all the goats scape out as soon as.

Waar Somalida waan aqaan, they have zero alligiance to politcal Parties. :D

A more probable scenario is exactly what happened during HSM... all these congregate and do a secret ballot. 

Even though $$$ will still determine the outcome of such s/election. If Cheeseman returns, then the corruption ($$$) will be highlighted and the wheels will come off the whole process.

The only way the outcome will have some sort of legitimacy is if a new guy wins the Presidenty, as the $$$ aspect doesn't get featured or highlighted as much.

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cadnaan1   
11 hours ago, Bootindheere said:

Cadnaan1 aka Saalax don’t mind to be called looters inc, ******** multiple times but hates to hear the word Faqash.  

Meesha aan ka imid waa Ka ceeb ninka raga ah inuu caytamo waana dhaqan xun 

Hadaad arakto nin caaytamaya waa bilaa nasab faraciisa markaa adiga hadaad kuwaas kamid noqonaysid waa adiga hawl kuu taala.

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I am just giving you heads up not to throw stones at Somaliland republic and hide behind a HAG wall.  Keeping a child soldier as your avatar and throwing few Mogadishu pictures here and there will not give you a HAG citizenship.  

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Oodweyne   
17 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Here is how it could happen.

THere won't be direct vote. voting will be held not only in regional level but also in district level. Every member of parliament will be elected by about 250 people. Those vying for a seat ( member of parliament) has to run under the banner of a political party.

Galbeedi,

If that is likely to be the case, then you do know I take it that the unionist politicians (or those who pass themselves off as such) are done, and done in for good.

After all, if district-level quasi election (or clan selection) is going to be taken place, across the breadth of southern regions, then a man who was forced to go to his clan's district and another man who was (s)elected in hotels of Mogadishu, which is the political fate that awaits the cheap and the biddable unionist stooges, can't be said that they are both equally of a "valid political representation" of their people and constituencies.

For one is a genuine "pastoral democracy" in action under some proverbial acacia tree, somewhere in the dusty terrain of the Somali peninsula (even if the result will be obtained through a limited franchise). And the other will be like a "bastardized version of representation" and completely lacking of any moral or political legitimacy.

And that is precisely the case, given that whilst the hotels of Mogadishu will host or will be the venues of the polling booths in which these "carpetbagger unionist politicians" will get selected from it; others will have to sweat, to cajole, and to hassle for every vote they need to get selected from their constituencies back at their God's forsaken clannish districts in the backwoods of their region. 

Hence, that will be really sighted to watch. At any rate, I have my popcorn ready, and I shall watch it keenly when the argument of this kind gets to explode soon. Since I would guess that many folks will object to such a "dastardly self-serving deal" in which these alleged unionist folks are been awarded with; whilst, on the other hand, they are expected to cut the rough with the smooth back in their districts and try their luck there. 

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gooni   
11 hours ago, cadnaan1 said:

Meesha aan ka imid waa Ka ceeb ninka raga ah inuu caytamo waana dhaqan xun 

Hadaad arakto nin caaytamaya waa bilaa nasab faraciisa markaa adiga hadaad kuwaas kamid noqonaysid waa adiga hawl kuu taala.

Cadnaan.

Meel fiican baad ka timid caqligana allaha kuu barakeeyo.

Ma jiro qof, qof kale u jawaabi kara asagoon aqoon beeshiisa.

Aragtidaada shakhsiga ah, qofna kama jawaabi karo si toos ah, waxay u aadayaan beesha ay kugu malaynayaan inaad kasoo jeedo.

Waa iska caadi dhaqan ahaan laakiin sidaad sheegtay cayda mutaxan waa laga fiican yahay, sababtoo dadku waa rixim iyo casabo ama adeer iyo abti.

Waxaa laga yaabaa inaad wiilkaaga hooyadii caydo ama gabadha aad dhashay wiilkeeda ama abtigaa hooyadiis soomaalidu waa dun isku fur-furatay.

Hadii xaal ku qabto dhawr jeer waxaa xumaanaya qiimaha hadalkaaga sida oodweyne oo kale.

Snm inta ka joogta SOL akhyaar bay u badan yihiin xoogaa cuqdad ah waa isaga jirtaa, ayadana allaha ka saaro.

Marmar waa laga xanaajiyaa adigoo iska ilaalinaya dhaqanka hadalka, lama wado fiicnaado si aysan u dhihin kursi waan ka maaranay.

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