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A tanker passing the SF bridge. In any case, if the Djibouti-Yemen bridge is impossible in terms of engineering or finances, there would be no talk about it, plus construction would not begin in two months time.

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^Let the class and education begin, I ask the intelligent and able crowd in here to bear with me as you can see my post is really long but it should be worth it inshallah at the end of you reading it through as it is really educational and not on par with the rest of the awful posts displayed by some of the simpletons in here.

 

As usual Ngonge is bliding himself from the hard, unforgiving and naked truth. I rather not discuss with him on this issue as I can clearly see that he's not even on my level!

 

It's really getting frustrating to educate the old man every now and then, but as usual I shall point him into the right direction and give him the crucial info he lacks. In short I shall make him veer!

 

If we talk about decimal separators the comma and dot are equal to one another. He doesn't even know what a radix point is and now he's included it in his last post.

 

1.000.000.000,00 is a billion in the UK and US.

 

But not in the majority of Europe. In Europe 1.000.000.000.000,00 is a billion!

 

You see I'm going to highlight to the gallery here how confused british people are. Dots and commas are equal and can both be used as decimal separators.

 

For example 1.000.000.000,00 and 1,000,000,000.00 have the same meaning and no-one can dispute it. Dot and comma both are legitimate as decimal separators.

 

I know for sure that Northerner and Cambarro are both from the UK and had a similiar education but Northerner gave us a billion with only 9 zero's whilst Cambarro gave us a billion with 12 zero's.

 

Cambarro wrote: 1,000,000,000,000.00

 

Whilst Northerner wrote: 1,000,000,000

 

Who's right?

 

Northerner uses the new short-wave system of the US which has been adopted by law and used in the financhial services whilst Cambarro uses the old format, which has changed from 12 zero's to 9 zero's and there's no more milliard.

 

My dictionary informs me the following:

 

Milliard (dated): U.K. billion: one thousand million, now called a billion. So in the new sense a 'billion' has nine zero's now as well in the UK and not any longer 12 zero's!

 

However in Europe traditionally a 'billion' had 12 zero's.

 

Like this:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00

 

or as Cambarro has wrote it, UK system and US although the US increasingly uses comma's instead of dot's as decimal separators increasinly now as well.

 

1,000,000,000,000.00!

 

So in practise and theory:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (In European Billion)

 

1,000,000,000,000.00 (former Billion in the UK)

 

Have/Had the same meaning!

 

However in the new sense:

 

1.000.000.000,00

 

or

 

1,000,000,000.00

 

A 'American' Billion have the same meaning although the written format is different!

 

On the other hand:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (European billion)

 

and

 

1,000,000,000.00 (American and UK billion)

Alternatively written:

 

1.000.000.000,00

 

have the same meaning.

 

Confusing heh?

 

Adeer I give you knowledge which you cannot comprehend or understand so please stop the fidgeting will you?

 

Now look at this table below and tell me if the figures depicted really do mean one US dollar, will you? I dare you to and the gallery shall be my witness.

 

Or are you saying the table has been written by MKA? Don't make the gallery laugh. Would you mind to interpret the table for us and the depicted figures and how they decimal separators are used as commas and the unit separators as dots? Will you raise up to the Challenge, I'll doubt it very hardly.

 

Now come at me and tell me what you think. Lol

You're a loser adeer and quite evident at it as well.

 

 

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- Which bonds has Repsol YPF issued in the last few years?

 

 

Repsol YPFs bond issues are as follow:

BONDS ISSUED BY REPSOL INTERNATIONAL FINANCE BV
Bond Issue date Maturity Nominal amount Market where it trades
REP 7,00% 27/Jul/1995 01/Aug/2005 USD$ 300.000.000,00 Registrados en la S.E.C.
REP 7,45% 17/Jul/2000 15/Jul/2005 USD$ 1.250.000.000,00 Registrados en la S.E.C.
FRN eur+100 p.b. 28/May/2003 28/May/2006 Eur 150.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 5,75% 04/Dec/2001 04/Dec/2006 Eur 750.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 6,00% 05/May/2000 05/May/2010 Eur 1.000.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 6,00% (*) 21/Jun/2001 05/May/2010 Eur 175.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 5,00% 22/Jul/2003 22/Jul/2013 Eur 1.000.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 4,625% 08/Oct/2004 08/Oct/2014 Eur 1.000.000.000,00 The Luxembourg Stock Exchange

(*) The Rep 6,00% bond issue was increased by an additional Eur 100mn and is fungible with the existing Eur 1 billion issue.

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or altenatively click on here:

 

http://www.bcb.gov.br/htms/relinf/ing/2002/03/ri200203mdi.pdf

 

I can give you many financial reports where the comma is used as a decimal separator!

 

In Europe they used the comma where as in English speaking countries they use a dot but both can be used.

 

The confusion stems from the british being confused.

 

1.000.000.000,00 (In the sense of American billion)

 

1,000,000,000.00 (UK and US billion)

 

Are indeed the same.

 

Where as in Europe:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (In the sense of European billion)

 

and

 

1,000,000,000.00 (In the sense of US and UK billion)

 

Have essentially the same meaning.

 

According to International system (SI) both systems are legitimate and right in the sense of being used as decimal separators.

 

So therefore the dot and comma are both equal and right!

 

Can you argue with that? No, because it's superior knowledge that you cannot aruge or go against, understand?

 

I hope that you've been following my education and from now on all the confusion will cease and let me apologise to the gallery here for the long post but it had to be done and was unavoidable as the uneducated folks needed a lot of explanation and education again!

 

Sometimes I don't even know to why I debate with simpletons because if you debate with people that are not on par with you, you risk being hit and dirtied by the mud that is flying in the air in which the ignorant folks like Ngonge dwell and swim in!

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^It's complicated MC Xamar. It's about decimal separators and how the dots and commas are equally used as decimal separators.

 

For example in mainland Europe they would write one million like this:

 

1.000.000,00 (European one million where as the comma is used as decimal separator)

 

On the other hand in the UK and US (US leans to European system now increasingly) would write a million in the following format:

 

1,000,000.00

 

International system (SI) says both ways are right. However the proper way to depict large numbers according to SI is the following:

 

1 000 000,00 (For countries that use the comma as decimal separator)

 

And

 

1 000 000.00 (For countries that use the dot as decimal separators).

 

In order to reduce confusion for the not so bright-minded, like our friend Ngonge.

 

I know it's difficult but I hope you understand it anyway.

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Shakti   

Originally posted by MC Xamar:

^What the hell was that all about? :confused:

its about mka style.. to confuse n annoy ppl.. that’s y he rocks! :D

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NGONGE   

International system (SI) says both ways are right. However the proper way to depict large numbers according to SI is the following:

 

1 000 000,00 (For countries that use the comma as decimal separator)

 

And

 

1 000 000.00 (For countries that use the dot as decimal separators).

 

In order to reduce confusion for the not so bright-minded, like our friend Ngonge.

 

I know it's difficult but I hope you understand it anyway.

:D

You wriggled, you babbled, you ducked and you dived but in the end and amongst all your drivel you just had to admit where you went wrong. I shall not push you anymore, son. I’m just happy now that you know what an American billion looks like. A man of your knowledge and intelligence is bound to hit the big time sooner or later and I would have been really disappointed to hear that some conman had got the better of you and given you $1.00 whilst claiming it’s $1,000,000,000.00.

Tomorrow we shall attempt to tackle fractions. :D

 

As for the bridge, it’s not impossible to construct for those that have the money and experience. However, the two countries involved neither have money or experience. Furthermore, the UAE have to be getting back more than it’s putting in for such a project to be feasible. This, after all, is not some high rise building, Palm or World construction that most of the world would associate with mere pride and arrogance! In this case, the UAE does not really (in the long-term) benefit from the prestige and credit for building this bridge. The two countries involved will. What's the catch?

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^Kids bring out the balloons as we're going to celebrate. Againg Ngonge couldn't deal with the brillance of mine as it was to hot for him to handle its latest surge.

 

My brilliant mind has just overwhelmed him and done it to him again. I say this, if Ngonge would be a house, by the time I delivered my long post (from now on called a demolition) it would no longer stand as it would come down crushing very hard.

 

It was hit by a 9.5 on the Richter scale earthquake together with a massive Tsunami. :D , beyond poor Ngonge's capacity as his house was of mud and illegal as well.

 

That's what I call a demolition ala MKA style. Poor Ngonge, had to take cover. I guess more than anything the lava did him. :D

 

There was simply no-where in my post were he could take a handle and a firm grip on anything I said, as my latest piece unforgivingly and to the dismay of Ngonge was simply putting flowless and impeccable. It simply left him naked and want to take cover behind the bushes. Poor Ngonge, I really do feel him.

 

Very poor of him indeed. Nothing did he came up with, to atleast stop the flow of the hot lava for some time but I cannot blame him as it overwhelmed him and was indeed to strong for his likeness. No rebuttal, nothing.

 

He was simply speaking left speechless.

Good that he didn't try to put up much of a fight (judging by his half-heartedly reply) or try to stop the flow of the lava as it would indeed 'kill' him and finish him off, if he had tried to argue with it. :D

 

No one can argue with logic. From now one this episode should be known as the One Billion demolition!

 

Simply speaking no one can argue with the naked truth and absolute logic as our friend Ngonge had to experience and found out the hard way round.

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It's so good, that it should serve as a initiation into SOL inshallah. It's priceless and I recommend everyone to read it atleast once in their stay in here and it should be made obligatory for everyone that want's to join this site to atleast read it and sit a test on it!

 

Actually it is that good, that I've to post it twice.

 

Enjoy, I say.

 

Originally by MKA Yoonis: ^Let the class and education begin, I ask the intelligent and able crowd in here to bear with me as you can see my post is really long but it should be worth it inshallah at the end of you reading it through as it is really educational and not on par with the rest of the awful posts displayed by some of the simpletons in here.

 

As usual Ngonge is blinding himself from the hard, unforgiving and naked truth. I rather not discuss with him on this issue as I can clearly see that he's not even on my level!

 

It's really getting frustrating to educate the old man every now and then, but as usual I shall point him into the right direction and give him the crucial info he lacks. In short I shall make him
veer
!

 

If we talk about decimal separators the comma and dot are equal to one another. He doesn't even know what a radix point is and now he's included it in his last post.

 

1.000.000.000,00 is a billion in the UK and US.

 

But not in the majority of Europe. In Europe 1.000.000.000.000,00 is a billion!

 

You see I'm going to highlight to the gallery here how confused british people are. Dots and commas are equal and can both be used as decimal separators.

 

For example 1.000.000.000,00 and 1,000,000,000.00 have the same meaning and no-one can dispute it. Dot and comma both are legitimate as decimal separators.

 

I know for sure that Northerner and Cambarro are both from the UK and had a similiar education but Northerner gave us a billion with only 9 zero's whilst Cambarro gave us a billion with 12 zero's.

 

Cambarro wrote: 1,000,000,000,000.00

 

Whilst Northerner wrote: 1,000,000,000

 

Who's right?

 

Northerner uses the new short-wave system of the US which has been adopted by law and used in the financial services whilst Cambarro uses the old format, which has changed from 12 zero's to 9 zero's and there's no more
milliard
.

 

My dictionary informs me the following:

 

Milliard (dated): U.K. billion: one thousand million, now called a billion. So in the new sense a 'billion' has nine zero's now as well in the UK and not any longer 12 zero's!

 

However in Europe traditionally a 'billion' had 12 zero's.

 

Like this:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00

 

or as Cambarro has wrote it, UK system and US although the US increasingly uses comma's instead of dot's as decimal separators increasingly now as well.

 

1,000,000,000,000.00!

 

So in practise and theory:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (In European Billion)

 

1,000,000,000,000.00 (former Billion in the UK)

 

Have/Had the same meaning!

 

However in the new sense:

 

1.000.000.000,00

 

or

 

1,000,000,000.00

 

An 'American' Billion has the same meaning although the written format is different!

 

On the other hand:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (European billion)

 

and

 

1,000,000,000.00 (American and UK billion)

Alternatively written:

 

1.000.000.000,00

 

have the same meaning.

 

Confusing heh?

 

Adeer I give you knowledge which you cannot comprehend or understand so please stop the fidgeting will you?

 

Now look at this table below and tell me if the
figures
depicted really do mean one US dollar, will you? I dare you to and the gallery shall be my witness.

 

Or are you saying the table has been written by MKA? Don't make the gallery laugh. Would you mind to interpret the table for us and the depicted
figures
and how they decimal separators are used as commas and the unit separators as dots? Will you raise up to the Challenge, I'll doubt it very hardly.

 

Now come at me and tell me what you think. Lol

You're a loser adeer and quite evident at it as well.

 

 

<img src="

- Which bonds has Repsol YPF issued in the last few years?

 

 

Repsol YPFs bond issues are as follow:

BONDS ISSUED BY REPSOL INTERNATIONAL FINANCE BV
Bond
Issue date
Maturity
Nominal amount
Market where it trades
REP 7,00%
27/Jul/1995
01/Aug/2005
USD$ 300.000.000,00
Registrados en la S.E.C.
REP 7,45%
17/Jul/2000
15/Jul/2005
USD$ 1.250.000.000,00
Registrados en la S.E.C.
FRN eur+100 p.b.
28/May/2003
28/May/2006
Eur 150.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 5,75%
04/Dec/2001
04/Dec/2006
Eur 750.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 6,00%
05/May/2000
05/May/2010
Eur 1.000.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 6,00% (*)
21/Jun/2001
05/May/2010
Eur 175.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 5,00%
22/Jul/2003
22/Jul/2013
Eur 1.000.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange
REP 4,625%
08/Oct/2004
08/Oct/2014
Eur 1.000.000.000,00
The Luxembourg Stock Exchange

(*) The Rep 6,00% bond issue was increased by an additional Eur 100mn and is fungible with the existing Eur 1 billion issue.

" alt="" />

 

or altenatively click on here:

 

 

I can give you many financial reports where the
comma
is used as a
decimal separator
!

 

In Europe they used the comma where as in English speaking countries they use a dot but both can be used.

 

The confusion stems from the british being confused.

 

1.000.000.000,00 (In the sense of American billion)

 

1,000,000,000.00 (UK and US billion)

 

Are indeed the same.

 

Where as in Europe:

 

1.000.000.000.000,00 (In the sense of European billion)

 

and

 

1,000,000,000.00 (In the sense of US and UK billion)

 

Have essentially the same meaning.

 

According to
International system (SI)
both systems are legitimate and right in the sense of being used as
decimal separators
.

 

So therefore the dot and comma are both
equal
and right!

 

Can you argue with that? No, because it's superior knowledge that you cannot aruge or go against, understand?

 

I hope that you've been following my education and from now on all the confusion will cease and let me apologise to the gallery here for the long post but it had to be done and was unavoidable as the uneducated folks needed a lot of explanation and education again!

 

Sometimes I don't even know to why I debate with simpletons because if you debate with people that are not on par with you, you risk being hit and dirtied by the mud that is flying in the air in which the ignorant folks like Ngonge
dwell
and swim in!

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NGONGE   

^^^ :D I can clearly see your tricks and manners, xaaji. Do you mean to spoil my fun here? Detest I tell you, detest and stop distracting this whiz kid from his work. :D

 

Talking about balloons, I love the way MK busts into a whole load of drivel when you slightly prick him. Scary yet very entertaining.

 

Lets have one more go: MK, your big speech only confirmed my earlier suggestion. A US (and UK) billion uses a dot to signify a decimal place. Dare I see you come back with a different reply now?

 

I desperately await a comical riposte. ;)

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Let’s forget for a second about how the numbers are represents and get back to the issue of the bridge.

 

One billion seems like a lot to spend for these two countries (at least in my mind).

 

Also, there is already a land bridge between Asia and Africa so is a second bridge necessary?

 

I am sure there is some trade between Yemen and Djibouti but I doubt much (anyone have the numbers)? I mean, what do Yemen and Djibouti produce, except poor people?

 

In any case, I seriously doubt that any such bridge will be constructed.

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Also, isn't that part of the red sea international waters? Shipping going from East Asia to Europe passes through there and it's a very strategically important area. More reasons why it can't happen.

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