Confuse eh...LooooooooooooooooL Ethiopian Troops Kill More Than 40 People By Salaad Iidow Hasan (Hiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Friday August 15, 2008 Mogadishu, Somalia (HOL) – Ethiopian troops have killed more than 40 people this afternoon in an area near the town of Afgoye known as Arbiska. The people were civilians traveling in passenger vehicles. The victims were in two passenger vehicles. The killing of these civilians appears to be intentional as Ethiopian troops continued to fire on the passengers until there was no movement (perhaps to make sure everyone in the vehicles is dead). This brutal killing of civilians riding in passenger vehicles seems the worst atrocity aimed at passengers although in the past Ethiopian troops killed unarmed civilians in several occasions and at several places. The number of civilians Ethiopian troops killed in the last 24 hours exceeds 50 when we include other civilians Ethiopian troops killed this morning in an area near former military camp located off the main road that links Mogadishu and Afgoye and others who were killed near Makka Al-Mukarrama street. The killings of these civilians by Ethiopian troops comes at a time when this morning Ethiopian troops were targeted with explosions in the area between Mogadishu and Afgoye as well as four attacks they faced several days ago when they were traveling on the main road that links Mogadishu and Baidoa. English adaptation by Mohamed Amin Ahmed, Hiiraan Online mamin35@hiiraan.com

^SOL has chat room?

^To shooting range....unload semi automatic on the target-maybe on that glowing dinasour.

Duceysane...Leave Duke's adeer alone and go back to your clan court general Indhacade

^slow news day?

^He became general the same time Colonel Duke became one.

^Your adherence to religion lacks practical dimensions. There's solution to everything. Promoting fervent devotion to one's faith without considering the practical ideas to the problems lacks creativity.Before you start preaching them-either give them the means or show the them the way to clean this rubbish.

People, it is not that I'm not able to pay this money. It is just that I don't understand why we have to bear the burden of someone's illogical action. The man killed another human being for no apparent reason.He is callous with life. And I do help and contribute when I'm asked of something whether it's money for burial, for the sick or for someone who is down on their luck. Whose to say this person won't kill again considering how trigger happy he is. NGONE...Why would I preach against something I already decided to support albeit reluctantly. DhulQarnayn..I doubt God would unleash his wrath onto me for failing to help a murderer. Gheele T...It just so happens the man that get killed belongs to Duke's "people" but don't tell him that he already thinks my objection to Yeey stems from my 'hatred' for his "people". Saqajaan..The relationship with the tolka seems to be one way street. So far I have yet to reap the fruits of the Tolnimo business.

But you just did respond

Lily-He wasn't intoxicated he murdered the guy. I personally would have handed over the victim's family and let make the decision if they wanna spare his life or make him pay for crimes by hanging him high. DD...It does happen everywhere but I think it's people try something else. Ibti- The man he killed wasn't particularly important. Malika..I didn't pay a dime. There's no point in supporting a bad habit. Saqajaan..I rather be laangaab. Dhubad...Let them kill each other. I know that's sound evil but why do we have to suffer.

^Would you have paid the money? I just don't understand what purpose it would serve other than rienforce this man's ugly behavior?

A guy called my adeer the other day from the old country saying our family need to fork over atleast 2000 dollars for "save a jack*rse life fund". The man goes to say that we need to contact every member of the Tolka as if ever we keep list of these people and whereabouts. Naturally, adeer politely obliged and said he will see what we can do. I get call saying qaaraan la rabaa to which I answered for what.Supposedly some jack**** decided to recklessly blast a guy over simple argument. I paused for second and politely told my uncle, it wouldn't just cheaper to kill this murderer that way only he has to face the consequences of his irresponsible actions. I believe in saving lifes but I rather give my money to starving child than khat crazed id*ot. I know every life is precious but I see no point in saving this man's life!

The Islamic civilization had reached its peak in the 10th century, and by 1100, the number of Muslims rose to 5.6 million. 18 There existed in Cordoba alone, 200,000 houses, 600 mosques, 900 public baths, 10,000 lamps, 50 hospitals, lighted and paved streets. Muslims introduced public baths because of their need to to wash in preparation for prayer 5x a day. Libraries and research institutions grew rapidly in Muslim Spain, while the rest of Europe remained illiterate. In Muslim Spain, knowledge from Greece and Rome was preserved. Arab scholars produced encyclopedias on medicine and astronomy in 11th century, also including astrology, psychology, zoology, biology, botany, chemistry, physics, mathematics, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, etc., which Christian scholars acquired and translated. Toledo thrived essentially because of its Muslim rule, and became the "cradle of learning," and the chief point of interaction between the Muslims, Christians and Jews. Western scholars traveled to Spain and Sicily to learn Arabic and to make transcripts of texts in Latin. Muslims produced cotton, paper, salt, silk, satin, pepper, stamps, clocks, soaps, rulers, maps, globes, furs, velvets, described over 200 surgical instruments, and named over 200 stars with Arabic names. Hence, it was this Islamic civilization in Spain that was the main threshold behind the European Renaissance. During the time the Muslims set foot in Spain in 711 until 1084 (a year before Toledo was taken) Muslim Spain had become an area unique to the entire world. web page Xiin..Your question reminded the above piece by a sister. Andalusia was the embodiment of all that was good with the Islamic civilization.The sister painted beautiful picture of life in Andalusia.Try to contrast Islamic Cordoba, Seville and Toledo with other European cities in the dark ages. I'm sure you know the stark difference between Andalusia and rest of Europe which was then run by one universal institution the Roman Catholic church to which all were devoted. The poor peasants of dark ages who slept not from their domestic animals and city dwellers whose excrement would go by their houses were all deeply religious people yet they were poor, filthy and ignorant.The European monks and scholars who sought knowledge and enlightenment from Andalusia were amazed how knowledgeable Muslims were, how clean the people and cities were and how tolerant Islamic government were to the non-Muslims. They couldn't believe the robust economy, the free exchange of ideas, and managerial/administrative skills of those running this land. And when these monks and scholars were alone with their thoughts in the moment of introspection, they understood that they must learn all they can from this civilization and learn they did eventually conquering the very civilization that they so amazed with. Not to make it long but the point here is they didn't look down on those poor peasants and call their existence an ignoble one by insinuating that these peasants were filthy coz they didn't follow the words of Jesus Christ. Instead, these monks/scholars used what they learned to advance their civilization. You went back, saw a pile of trash and thought..Geeze these people must have abandoned the words of Allah and the Sunnah of Our Prophet (PBUH). The usual suspects came in and joined the chorus. Not once it did occur to you find practical solution for this problem. Instead you climbed high on pedestal looking down on everybody all the while you could have simply engaged with few of the merchants in town and suggest to them to start a waste disposal company-just one truck with two or three trash collectors would have done the job. It is an investment that would have solved a public health issue and created jobs. Every other or so day, trucks come to your and every Faarax in here's neighborhood to collect trash. It's beyond me that you wouldn't share things you know with your fellow Muslim. I guess it's easier to criticize them than it's to actually teach them something. That said, I'm gonna end my rant with another little fact. The predecessors of the Roman Church were the mighty Rome itself and the Greeks-two civilizations that Andalusian Muslims and others look to for knowledge.They studied and translated many works of Greek and Roman scholars that Andalusia was teaching to the inheritors of these civilization the very thing they should have known. The point here is civilizations evolve and devolve!!!. It's natural cycle and I'm sure you could figure where the Islamic civilization is evolving or devolving now. One last thing I was reading this story while back web page In country, where Islamic brotherhood lurks everyone corner, I wonder if you could go and preach about conducting themselves Islamically? P.S. I very much liked Cara explanation better even though she didn't offer any solutions either but atleast she didn't pass down judgment and question people's deep held faith.

Xiin-I wouldn't know what goes in your mind and it wasn't was meant to be taken literaly but you sounded like depicting these people's everyday purpose as ignoble. Atleast that's how it came across to me. How you surmise these 'rumblings' in your mind is diffirent story. Could this have less to do with Islam or moral degradation and more to do with your need for 'mechanized' convenience hence you rather have cashier with fake smile and empty gestures.

^LoooooooooL..I find your 'rumblings' about these societies bit sordid. I'm surprised so many agreed. Now that's cause for concern.

^Is this goadlike moment or momentary voyeurism into Xiin's inner mind.

Meesha bus kaliyaa waaye. Waraa Duke, you are always impressed with adeeros.Give it rest Duqa.

Melez is preparing his Tigray region for the eventual disintregation of Ethiopia.

The WHO People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation) I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation) This is my generation This is my generation, baby Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation) And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation) I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation) I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation) This is my generation This is my generation, baby Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation) And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation) I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation) I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation) This is my generation This is my generation, baby People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation) Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation) This is my generation This is my generation, baby

LED ZEPPELIN Close the door, put out the light. You know they won't be home tonight. The snow falls hard and don't you know? The winds of Thor are blowing cold. They're wearing steel that's bright and true They carry news that must get through. They choose the path where no-one goes. They hold no quarter. Walking side by side with death, The devil mocks their every step The snow drives back the foot that's slow, The dogs of doom are howling more They carry news that must get through, To build a dream for me and you They choose the path where no-one goes. They hold no quarter. They ask no quarter. The pain, the pain without quarter. They ask no quarter. The dogs of doom are howling more!

Hubb...Women like to be pursued and cajoled-their eggs are simply in line with their mindset.

^It gotta stink if your government labels 'ugly' though. I hope they will let her sing at the closing ceremony.

^It get no legs or tail

White people of European descent will no longer make up a majority of the US population by the year 2042 - eight years sooner than previous estimates. The big change is among Hispanics and Asians whose share of the population is set to double to 30% and 9%. The population is also ageing: by 2050 one in five residents will be aged 65 or over, up from one in nine today. The US Census Bureau's latest projections are based on birth, death and current immigration rates. The projections show that the US population is expected to rise from 305 million people to 439 million by 2050, but it will be a population that looks quite different both in age, race and ethnicity. According to the census bureau's statistics, people who regard themselves as Hispanic, African-American, Asian, American Indian, Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander will become the majority by 2042. Officials had previously projected that this change would happen in 2050. The new projections suggestion that by 2050, minorities will account for 54% of the population and non-Hispanic whites 46%, down from their current 64.7% share. Immigration and higher birth rates among US minorities, especially Hispanics, are accelerating the demographic changes. Hispanics will see their population nearly triple from 47 million to 133 million, causing their share of the population to increase from 15% to 30%. Asians will also see a big increase, with their numbers growing from 16 million to 41 million. Single-race Asians will account for 8% of the population and 9% including those of mixed race. The black population, including those of mixed race, will show a slight increase from 14% to 15% of the total. 'Ageing baby boomers' It is likely that the demographic changes will be experienced right across the country - and no longer confined to urban areas as in the past. The population will also be ageing, with some 88 million people, predominantly white, being aged 65 and over. The number of people over 85 years old will more than triple in the next 40 years, reaching 19 million. "The white population is older and very much centred around the ageing baby boomers who are well past their high fertility years," William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution think tank, told the Associated Press. "The future of America is epitomised by the young people today. They are basically the melting pot we are going to see in the future." The Census Bureau points out that its projections are subject to big revisions, depending on immigration policy, natural or man-made disasters. The projections are also subject to changing cultural definitions and the way people see themselves. The New York Times notes that in earlier eras Irish, Italian and Eastern European Jewish immigrants were not universally considered as whites. Until the 1960s, Hispanics were not counted separately by the census and Asian Indians were classified as whites, the paper reports.

Miaoke's father has told reporters he thinks Peiyi is also cute. "Yang Peiyi's looks are OK," Lin Hui reportedly said. "In my opinion, she's not ugly." web page