Funny , but sadly this is not joke. These are people at the helm of the Somali nation, and wats even sadder we let them rule, and even bless them at times. I guess God rewarded us with well deserved destiny, bad leaders for a bad nation.

Horn-So we along OG have established we originated from SomaliGalbeed....Wat are we doing in Somalia....lol. I think the question here is would one be safe and secure in living in his birthplace, in my case mogadisho where in 91 I was all but safe.Heck, my nieghbors turned on us. It is legimate concern on Somali people's mind whether you are from Pland or not, a basically a choice between your Qabiil's land or birthplace.

OG- I don't know what the so called constitution says, but the reality is every ethnic Somali has the right to Somali citizenship whether you are from occupied lands or not. My grandfather is from Galadi/Wardheer area, Don't worry our lands will not be sold/forgotten!!!! People, I don't understand why would you gang up on Nationalist, Iam certain a lot of you are asking the same questions.

32 hahheheheehehehehhelooooooooooooooooool kixkixkxixkixkix, what are all gonna do. Isn't that excessive. Who has budget to support 32 ministries. Talk S-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y in its highest form. We need small, and effective goverment, not employement office for warlords.

Laskaa...It is unfortunate you put Egal with dat lot. Egal (Alla Naxariisto) was one of the best in the Somali politics. He was well schooled politician and diplomat,more importantly he was Somali Patriot. I sincerely believe our history would have been different if his goverment wasn't overthrown by Sayid.

Wat is da purpose of this thread. We get your man is the president. Even Muse Sudi accepts him as his president ( atleast he says so). Perhaps you could stop cheering now, and actaully do something about the Somali plight.

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OG-Girl, No human tradition tolerates rape and torture, but sadly in times of war, rape is used as weapon, and means to humuliate your enemy, and Somalis raped and killed women in mogadisho, hargayse , kismayo,Galkacayo, Somaligalbeed and elsewhere. The story of Zamzam, and this allaged story of Mako is nothing new,but sad repeation. However it is even sadder when people even da sane use these tragedies to farther their causes. I find it sick seeing Pland sites using this story to demonize Sland, and I gurauntee you will see this Mako story all over Sland sites soon. People writing these stories whether true or not are getting more xenophic, and will come up with more wilder accusations.

This was sanctioned by the traditional elders of Pland.....Come one, tell me more believable story. I can't believe one would make up story to play down Zamzam tragedy. This is sick. The author wants to restrict marriage to his clan. Fine by somaliweyn, He can go to his racist little corner. Qof Ka maan Gaban ma jiro xoola haan.

Man, I did really bad, but I don't think Iam bad driver, maybe little reckless sometimes and that might due to the fact that live in Boston where you have to be aggresive specially in rush hour. Those from da beantown would understand. Now who are the worst drivers, I would say Chinese women. Go behind a car driven by chinese woman, n you would agree.

Thats too ambitious, I think. Lets first see if he can go to mogadisho, and stabilise that place in one year let alone the entire Somalia.

Oda-Wow Duqa, yu can't this war to start, very eager indeed. Could that be you won't be there in person to actually fight in it. When that happenes war is guarenteed as you would attempt to foolishly enforce your dream of Sacred unity. The only one seeming to enforce anything now is Somaliland. I don't see any Somali army taking orders from Mogisho marching towards Waqooyi Galbeed. N even if proper and well functioning goverment is installed, I doubt it will declare war on anyone. Besides any war in Sool won't between two States. It would be largely prolonged nasty tribal war between Qabiils. Somaliland will not wither away, even if that is your fantasy, you will have to face up to the reality. Dats true, n the oppisition to Somaliland from Sool will not also wither away. It is time you face up to reality.

Ethiopia annexing Somalia, Naaaaah. Using warlords to influence Somali politics yes. Anyway, I think Ethiopia is big disaster waiting to happen. They have their own demons to deal with, AIDS, Poverty, over-population, chronic unemployement, desertivacation, armed rebels, tribal war, and the list goes on.

Originally posted by Kowneyn: Many feel the time has finally arrived to finish the unfinished civil war of the former Somali Republic. Kowneyn You mean that you feel it is time to finish the unfinished business( Watever dat is). Soomaali waxay tiraah daa Aqoon Xumo Abaar Ka daran. Obviously, you haven't learned anything from 20 yrs of Somali wars. No authority state or otherwise can impose itself on people. Save your time, you may win few battles in Sool, but eventually you will lose the war. Why you might ask. The simply answer people in Sool by large don't want Sland. Arrin xumona abaar ka daran. Dowladii ku talisay Sool dagaal ha lagu qaado,iyada uun baa ku jabi. Somaliland goverment has proven itself to be incompetent beyond any reasonably doubt. If it attacks Lasanod, it is another example of its incompetence. The matter of the truth is the south has done everything humanly possibly to help Somaliland cause. A decade of southern unrest and out right anarchy was more than enough for Sland leaders to deliver recognition, and they failed. Now, you are simply frustrated and take your frustration on someone. So my advice to you is if you wanna finish unfinished business. Finish off your goverment, and replace it with something worth your cause. N stop your useless warmongering against poor people of Sool cuz they are not standing in your way.

Ok ppl, I save some trouble. Riyada ka wada baxa. Yeey is president with no capital, no standing army, no financial back up, and is hated by almost everyone.Anyone supporting this dude is living in some twisted dream. Somaliland is weak state run by the very people that it fought to overthrow. A decade of stability hasn't brought any closer to independence. The country is vastly poor, high unemployement, many war victims bearing physical and mental scars, and little education for its children. Its eastern regions depend on Bosaso for trade, and the goverment does not have control over its entire terrotory. The goverment has failed terribly, and is becoming totalatorian. Anyone expecting such administration to deliver recognition is also sadly living twisted dream.

I think the call for foriegn troops is premature. Yeey should first name his prime minister, who should in turn set up the cabinet. Disarment would be most difficult in Xamar. He can start with mogadisho by appointing warlords in mogadisho.He already stated warlords would be rawarded with ministerial posts. The likes of Aydiid, Qanyare, and Dheere would be willing to settle for ministerial positions, and I believe might just agree to dismantle their forces. The business community will also be willing to give up arms if they have state proctection looking after their interests. The Islamic court, Sudi, and Cato might spoil things. For Yeey to succeed, he needs to engage everyone, and point out spoilers. He needs to respect the rule of law, and he needs to prove to Somali people as he is worth support. N finally he needs to remember he is appointed president of Somalia not Puntland. So, no one man show. Foriegn troops should only be brought in to Somalia to train Somali Armed Forces. If Xamar is taken care of, disarming rest of Somalia would be easier.

Hasna-You will only get baised opinion here,too many spin doctors. People will tell you things in manner that goes well with their own agenda. It is hard to some facts out of anybody. As for new Somali president, Yeah he is killer, but so are all warlords, and so called leaders. They are one and da same. It just is that Somalis would have believe one killer is better than other.N this is why you get the so many useless articles pertaining to so called leaders. Some Somalis praise them, and others condemn them, but in the end the truth are all killers.

JustCause-People here are confused about us since having the same avator.Maybe one of us should pick something different....lol Smith-So she just doesn't like the south being on its agian. I doubt that.

Originally posted by Xarago: What is the truth in your opinion then? That Somalia has last solved its problems with the elction of Colonel Yeey as a president.? [/QB] On the contrary, Somalia's problems are far being solved. These people have no real mandate, and vision. N for me it is not about just Yeey, any warlord "elected" can't take Somalia out of present troubles. Any real Somali reconcialation process should have been in Somalia, and more reasonable people should have been elected to highest office.

HornAf-Thats not me replying, but Xarago has point Yeey is not of man of reconcialation. I doubt that he changed overnight. I guess we will wait and see how he does things.

Originally posted by Xarago: ^^ What truth are you talking about..? The guy only wishes his uncle will get the foreign troops required so he can take back Xamar and get revenge on the Mogadishu people who 'killed' innocent civilians in 1991. So, I want Yusuf to kill people in mogadisho N you conclude all that from what I wrote. Unlike you, Iam not that bitter. Xawa caloosha ki jira buu carabka soo xadaa. Maybe it is you that want revenge on others. N plz accuse me of something else other then supporting Yeey. I don't like the guy nor I don't support his presidency, but it seems you have developed some admiration for him considering how often you talked about him. So, spare your labels, and norrow spitiful daily ranting. Milla-tnt- It is difficult for all Somalis to accept truth. They want to mask their failures by inflating their self importance, boasting, and putting each other down.

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: Excuse me for my ignorance, after two years of talks why does it need foreign troops - Ethiopian or not - to disarm the malitias? I thought the talks were a 'peace process' and were going to lead to voluntary dissarmament of these malitias. [/QB] Hehehehheeee....Voluntary disarment...dat will be da day. N this wasn't Somali peace process. It is more foriegn engineered "reconcialation process" which designed to return Somalia to some semblance of stability. Which civilians are you talking about the ones that were killed pre-1991 ot post-1991? Well alot of innocent people were massacred pre and post 91 all over Somalia, but Iam referring to those killed in Xamar in 1991, and who are ethnically cleansed from Xamar. The next verse of your signature went....D- dhamaayo waan dabaal dagaynaa...atleast how those in mogadisho recited it. P.S people regardless which region you came from, the truth all Somali people are world's poorest of the poor, all lack any decent govermental structure that will secure security, peace, progress, and prosperity. All children are largely left uneducated, and the future looks dim. All lack any influence in the horn , let alone in the world. So you can take comfort in boasting about some non-existent goverment or putting each other down, the reality is at the end of day the Somalis are nothing in the world today, and mean little to the anyone. So calm down everyone.

Xarago-He is seeking troops from AU, not Ethoipia. The man is crazy but I don't think is ****** enough to ask for actual Ethoipian troops to be present in Somali Soil, and all of places in the Somali capital. This is not a new news. He stated his intentions of seeking foriegn troops eirlier. Nothing is suprising here. Anyway, you can't wait to see him slip. Don't worry it will come sooner or later. P.S a bout your signature, "Ninki dhof ku yimid ba geeridu dhibeysa..!", I use to hear people Xamar sing in 91 while innocent civilians were being massacred. I hope you are not of those people chanting it coz dat would be seriosly distrubing!!

Fear and phantom enemies keep masses in check. There was big bad Soviet, now the radical Islamists, tomorow The red China, and so forth.

SomaliGalbeed and NDF are not dead dreams as long as the Somalis in these lands strive for independence. Who comes to power in Somalia really doesn't matter much now as Somalia can't effectively do anything.