Princess...It is sad....it is even more sad since no one is doing anything about. Shyhem....The two billions are only in India and China....I don't see how killing innocent babies counts as survival fittest. I don;t see a nation would survive by killing its girls who would be the future wives , mother, etc. They might prefer boys but the hell are boys gonna be with? Believe or not in parts of India, they are short of brides, men have travel to other of india and bangalidish to find brides.

S.O.S....Come on sista.....Farahs are not exactly in the dark ages either.Yeah we do know human antonomy.I have been getting bounded with human biology since my 6th grade and we never missed reproductive chapter.lol N yeah the hymen which is small membrane that covers partially the opening of Vagina and streches along inner labia can be torn way. How?.....Yu gotta chick for that answer lefty? Was that very graphic? N speaking virginity.....maybe being one ain't such bad idea considering 30 million are infected with HIV virus.Millions of others are working with other kinds of STDs.....These dieases are already made their way into somali communities. It is no longer gaal thing! Better safe than sorry!

I will second Shyem...I won't going anywhere. I will try to find a summer job , make some money before my school opens agian and the fall session commences.

How in the fuking world my post above ended up here? It was for some other topic started by scorpoin-sista.sista......Strange....I guess i was either high or the moderators are going nuts...lol Da beast.....I don't think it is taboo.but anyway it is not a relationship thats gonna last anyway.

HornAfrique....I do know that there are lot people with our physical features , norther berbers, eastern cushites, pharaonic egyptains, etc, but the people iam talking about trace their ancestry to somalis and cliamed migrated from somalia. It is not their physical features that they tried to offer as evidence linking to somalis, but also they mentioned oral history , tribal lineiage, this is specially in the case of chad people who traced their ancestors back to somali garre using their oral history, their liniaeges and language. They did some credible evidence. I think their claim has to be examined. One must consider the very fact that they claim to be of somali decent , not claiming of any other chustic ethnic. I understand where yu are coming though, People of the cushitic are more or less same physically, linguistically and culturally.

Scorpion-Fair enough walaal, i will do my part. I don't have an organization or anything to fight ignorance but as an individual, i do confront people with distorted views about handicapped. I know wat we somalis do when we meet an handicapped person, " wartan or ama kan waxbaa u dhiman". we identity the handicapped by their disability, war laan garaha or kan madaxa yar. anyone doing that in front of me gets a little lecture, if they don't get and does same agian and agian, we might end up in fist fight.

Thirty baby girls were foumd in truck at stop in china. The babies were staffed in suitcases. Each suit case contain two babies. Unfortunately , some babies were found dead and lucky others were saved. Horrors like this are repeated in Asia where girls were valued less. This is even problematic in China where one child policy allows only child per family. In society where boys are preferred over girls, parents resort sonograms to check the baby's sex, A female children are often aborted. Those who can't afford doctors simply give away their children. India too has indulged in simaliar crimes where girls are either desposed or simply sold into slavery. The indian culture dictates that a bride should pay the dowry when she is getting married. It is the responsibilty of the bride's parent to pay the dowry. This involves building new house for the couple, paying to the groom's family and whole alot other things. This is deeply rooted in their culture. In society which over a billion and millions live under poverty, marraige becomes a business. Grooms look the for the bride that pays most!. Having baby boy is more preferably to the most parents of India.The murdering of innocent girls is indeed one of the greatest crimes any could commit. Age old cultures and lack goverment involment hasn't help much to protect these innocent babies. Preferring boys over girls is not something unique only Asia, however the value of girl's life is most voilated in these countries. It is crime agianst humanity!

The recent history have seen somalis exiting their country creating Big Qurbo living outside somali lands of the horn. Though we are nomads , i thought that no significan number of somalis ever left somalia to settle outside the horn. I held that view till i heard that people claiming to be of somali descent that live in other parts of Africa. These communities claim that they are somali descendents who have migrated from Somalia centuries ago. One of these communities happens to be in Chad , these people claim to be Garre ( one of the oldest ethnic somali tribes). To prove their ethnic background, they have recited the names of their forefathers( Abtirsi). When these names were matched with todays somali Garre tribes. It all checked right. There are also very similiar todays somalis. Other communities are found in Tanzania and as far south Burundi and Rwundi. These people too assert that they are of somali descent. Some of these people still have the distinct somali features though others have assimilated in the local culture. My friend of mine show me a picture of Burundi President, This guy looks your avarge somali male( i can't say however if he is somali of descent). Other communities claiming are found as far as west africa. My friend mine from Ghana says they are ethnics gtom ghana and senegal that have somali features. Iam wondering if anyone of nomads know anything about these communities?

Anger ain't gonna us nowhere. Get involved and educate somalis. Discrmination and ignorance will only go away if we confront them head on! I symphetize with the handicapped people. Even America they lead pretty miserable life abodoned by their familes who sees them as burden and a society which expects the most out of you. I can pray for them...May Allah bless them and make their life easier.

Brown-Sugah......That farah must have really pissed off. I have never said you only had western mentality..i was merely wondering wat was your defination of being western oriented. Anyway going back to your question, I think people can expect these changes even we take religion out of equation. Partners can talk to each other about things that each are not comfortable with. As for the question, why would one marry someone whose they might disagree with on certain. I think realistically, when people meet and begun be fond of each other , they are more interested in being each other's company rather than worrying what farah or halimo is wearing or doing. If they get married, thats new stage in their life and must accept things that come with this new phase which includes taking into consideration how your mate feels about things.Anyone who thinks life after marraige is gonna stay the same before marriage is day-dreaming. N about somali guys listing qualities they look for in somali woman, they are merely expressing expection or desire. It is no different when somali girl make a list of what her mate should be!(tall, mascular, or what have you). N about jeans issue, everyone has to wear whatever they so desire. But the question is really approipate for one's age and status. I can't personally imagine in being mid 30s and my wife is still wearing jeans n T-shirts looking like Brittney. Every culture including eurowhite cultures expects married folks to be modest and behave in certian way. In the same manner, i don't think no somali woman would see her husband looking like thug with hip-hop clothes. I can understand young men and women wearing baggy jeans and tight ass jeans respectively when they are in their teens n early twenties. But being close to 30 or already there and still wearing the same clothing as one did in thier teens or early twenties doesn't make much sense unless if one is from showbiz industry.

Man...I miss somalia, if you had a beef with somebody. You took it outside and let out your frustarations in the ring.All people in the west do is *****.....I loved those after school fights....I guess only hamari folks can relate to this.....but considering what my hometown hamar , i say no to violence. Maybe virtual fighs, i wonder if somaliaonline can facilitate...lol Lazy-Gal....Moderators have to right to delete procotive posts that only lead to reactionary replies and personal attacks ( Somalinet forums...lol)but you have a point, they mustn't over do it.I haven't seen your post , so i can't really if moderators were right or wrong in deleting your post. People....i think the better solution might be , don't reply to topics yu think i might lead to nowhere except insults and counter insults.

Brown-Sugah.....Maybe you should just keep religion out of this. A girl with a tight jeans and Islam don't go together well. The two just don't mix. About somali males, i don't think farah has no right to preach anything especially if he himself does'nt practice what he preaches. As for your question walaal, i don't think anyone gets into a relationship with the intention of changing someone.But nonetheless people know in advance they will have to make changes if the relationships moves to the marraige phase. These changes will depend on the couple's religious and cultural background. These are reasonable changes to be expected. A husband has the right to ask his wife to stop things he might be not be comfortable with and the in same manner, a wife has the right to ask her husband to change things, she might not be comfortable with. N I think you siad you have western mentality, iam not sure what you meant by that, but if it means accepting western values specially the emphasis on individualism, we should understand an individual is part of larger community, and one will forced to give up part of his/her individualism.( Apologize if they i got wrong, maybe you could elobrate). well, and at end of the day if Halimo thinks a farah is step on her toes one too many times, she always cross over and find the next Joe and Malik.N the same goes the farah, he believes a halimo is too wild for him, cross over and find that kristy or whatever. Caution: It might not be greaner on the other side....lol

Rampage....Thankx bro pointing out this agian that mere Fadhiku Dirar ain't get us anywhere. We all know the ills of our society. The next logical question should be, "What should do about it?". Ideas are all good but if they are not backed by actions, they are pretty useless.

Well, i already did twelve years from K-12, 3 yrs of collage, just one more year. I might as well go for my graduate and get it over with. I spend my entire life doing a hard time...man life sucks!.. :mad:

Well, i already did twelve years from K-12, 3 yrs of collage, just one more year. I might as well go for my graduate and get it over with. I spend my entire life doing a hard time...man life sucks!.. :mad:

Here we go agian....lol Qoftaan mooryaan iyo jiri in dhax geeya waaye, markaas soomaali danbey lama maqlaayo....lol

These ppl are letting everyone know how they feel about the war. It is important to do so and show the world these so called leaders are ignoring the wishes and opinions of the very own people. Sitting around and doing nothing mounts to endorsing the actions of these warmongers.

KickAssPrincess.....Ok, she is one those of folks amused by somalis. I had my Paki friend like dat. This guy literally lived among somalis. He even quit playing cricket and joined the soccer camp. Well anyway, tell your gal slow it down little though...lol Malakia....Lol....I guess we gang up on the paki sista...lol, It has been awhile i used the language too....With each passing day, my grasp of urdu is slipping away. KoolKat...are urdu speakers turning the place into Pakiland...lol

By da way, yu can't compare the arab-somali connection to black and white situation in America. I don't see the comparison.

Haystack....Feeling little afrocentric Huh? Here is dose of reality, somalis have more things in common with arabs and ethopians than they do with bantu Africa. It is not just the religious and cultural connections but also linguistical connections.Somalis along with ethopians, Hebrews, egpytians, nubians, berbers and arabs are in the same Afro-Asiatic langauge group.Since you are trying somalis are not related to arabs, what i like to ask sir, what do we have in common with Yoruba of Nigeria, the bushmen or the pygmies of the congo other than our skill color. Apart from Swahili which is mixed arabic and some cushtic languages, tell me any bantu langauge that related to us in anyway. As for ethopians, if we would check their history, they claim to be the descents of queen sheba and king solomon and eriteans trace their back to southern yemen. As the for the question who are somalis, we did mingle with arabs, the arab connection is over-exxagurated, the somali along with our cousin oromos, afars,egyptians, berbers, Chadians, and nubians are part of the Cushtic family who have lived in east and north Africa for ages.

N let me guess , Somalis are racists..pakis are angels....Dear south Asians with their caste systems are some racists people on earth. Need i say more?

Most people pretending to be foriegners in somali forums turn to be distrungled Xaliimo and Farax or simply attention seekers!...lol Paki.....i have seen in these forums with your anti-somali chanting!....Yaar Agar somali log tu basan nahii, baatow idar kiyaa kariihay Ghaandu. Yee somali site hee, Samaj, kow paki waki nahee, Lagtaahay tu somali hindustani samajaa...Stop chewing too much Baan, and get your head straight. N you siad yu are gal, be careful dear, Honor killing still goes on in pakistani culture, your family might hang if they find out yu are socializing with somalis and others. Back to topic.....Beauty is just one's perception of others. what might be considered beautiful by one person could be labeled as ugly by another person. It is all in our minds.

I don't trust anyone. We live in world everybody is self-serving.I try not put myself in situations that i may regret later. NO SHALAATI! I only have confidence in my God. I know my family is always there for me. Scorpoin-Sista...I wouldn't single out somalis when it comes relationship. Relationships here in the west are superficial for most part.And people back stabb each other.

I like nothing about da place i live in!

Female genital mutilation can't be religiously or medically justified......It is pharoanic practice handed to us by our ancestors. One can't use their culture as excuse to continue this practice. It must be stopped. N people believing mutilated girls will remian virgins are totally misguided. A human desire can't curbed by anything. Circumisions can't be a substitute for parenting. Teach your daughters to respect themselves. Thats better way. P.S , i think the business of female circumisions should outlawed since it creates an oppurtinity for the HIV virus to speard.